Open 843 - Divide & Conquer - Game Over!

[Dwlee99]

You make me want to not even read these ISOs lmao

[Prism]

I will find the voting implications today somewhat humorous if it is Dunnstral/IV, because I would have induced Dunnstral to bus only to get it deadlocked back on a VT after I threatened to policy him.

[Dwlee99]

Dunnstral do you think my analysis of you is:
1.) Bad
2.) Bad and scummy
3.) Good but wrong
4.) Good but wrong and scummy
5.) Good and right (you probably won't choose this one)
6.) Bad and right (I do this one a lot probably)
7.) Other

[Prism]

You make me want to not even read these ISOs lmao

Fundamentally it's up to you. I don't blame you if you don't want to as town, and I especially would not want you to if you're mafia because this game is 100% over and you should go to sleep instead.

There's value in concurring with me if I am right, and if I am wrong that will again be on me. I will tell you I don't find tonal arguments on esther persuasive and would be more open to more specific criticism regarding her reads/play.

I have a headache and was just doing a check-in. I apologize but I am cutting my part for the night out here.

[Dunnstral]

Bad and scummy

You called me scum in response to my read on you, with no thoughts before that

[Dwlee99]

Bad and scummy

You called me scum in response to my read on you, with no thoughts before that

I'm talking about 1168 my dude

[Dwlee99]

Also wait that's literally just false. I kinda assumed it was true at first cause why lie and also I know I OMGUS BUT I don't think I even talked about you or mention you at all until today, and if it was just in response to your read on me then shat would even differentiate you and STD to me right now

[Dwlee99]

Then what, not shat lol

[Dwlee99]

dwlee, who do you think my buddy is? i dont think i can find a read implying an answer anywhere, aside from some maybe-joking(?) digs at std.

Dunn is scummier than STD but I haven't looked at associatives between y'all

Actually dunn feels like he is very transparently going for lim me -> lim STD for the win

He literally said it

In regards to Dwlee and Save the dragons: I have especially been not liking Dwlee's posts today, while Dragons is more neutral

(though if it's not Dwlee then they look worse today)

VOTE: Dwlee

The bolded is weird though

In regards to Dwlee and Save the dragons: I have especially been not liking Dwlee's posts today, while Dragons is more neutral

(though if it's not Dwlee then they look worse today)

VOTE: Dwlee

The bolded is weird though

To explain why using STD post

if it's not dwlee it's gotta be dunn

See this, it's like... oh well if it isn't dwlee then I think it's dunn

Dunn's isn't oh if it isn't dwlee it's STD, it's "STD looks worse"

Maybe this is nitpicky but it kind of betrays scum brain. It isn't about truth but appearances

My point is your way is townie dunn scummy

I also had ALL this before I even made 1168

[Dunnstral]

I post at similar times every day, shading the timing of my pop-in is easily verifiable nonsense.

So your case is "Dunnstral is asking a lot of questions but is not doing anything with the answers to the questions."

Most of which are in the first 4 pages, or after the elimination and aimed towards the dying player

Yes, that's a bad case.

[mc esther]

i cannot see any reason to flip dunnstral before flipping three-group, even if your opinion is generally in favour of eliminating within six. why would you not want to check that association before committing to the read? ik prism and std dont really believe the assoc is that strong, but theyre not the ones voting him. puppy does, so their vote is simply misplaced according to their own beliefs (like, if im maf over iv, and dunn is maf over everyone else in his group, then you very obviously start by flipping the player whose flip potentially clears the other); though i'll admit im not sure dwlee ever weighed in on this.

[Dunnstral]

I am not of the belief that a hidden alt would reveal themselves right away in the scum pt

I've been liking mc esther's posts today and lean towards IV being scum

In regards to Dwlee and Save the dragons: I have especially been not liking Dwlee's posts today, while Dragons is more neutral (though if it's not Dwlee then they look worse today)

VOTE: Dwlee

My name appears in Dwlee's iso 46 times

Before I made the string of posts above, my name appeared in Dwlee's iso 1 time.

The second time it appears is the next post Dwlee makes after the above, and it's to call me scum

[Dunnstral]

Dwlee you are being really vague about how flipping in the small group helps us

If you can't tell us who would be scum based on what they flip now, how will that change tomorrow?

ISOs will still exist

dwlee, who do you think my buddy is? i dont think i can find a read implying an answer anywhere, aside from some maybe-joking(?) digs at std.

Dunn is scummier than STD but I haven't looked at associatives between y'all

Actually dunn feels like he is very transparently going for lim me -> lim STD for the win

He literally said it

Here is their progression

[mc esther]

puppy's probably going to forget the association, say it's bad, make me re-iterate it, agree for like the third time, but still not change their vote because theyve stubbornly tunnelled themself into six-group

[Dwlee99]

I post at similar times every day, shading the timing of my pop-in is easily verifiable nonsense.

So your case is "Dunnstral is asking a lot of questions but is not doing anything with the answers to the questions."

Most of which are in the first 4 pages, or after the elimination and aimed towards the dying player

Yes, that's a bad case.

Yea except I mentioned very explicitly there was a day you didn't post at all which you've conveniently ignored here

[Dwlee99]

I am not of the belief that a hidden alt would reveal themselves right away in the scum pt

I've been liking mc esther's posts today and lean towards IV being scum

In regards to Dwlee and Save the dragons: I have especially been not liking Dwlee's posts today, while Dragons is more neutral (though if it's not Dwlee then they look worse today)

VOTE: Dwlee

My name appears in Dwlee's iso 46 times

Before I made the string of posts above, my name appeared in Dwlee's iso 1 time.

The second time it appears is the next post Dwlee makes after the above, and it's to call me scum

How many times did I mention anyone day one...

[Dwlee99]

Dwlee you are being really vague about how flipping in the small group helps us

If you can't tell us who would be scum based on what they flip now, how will that change tomorrow?

ISOs will still exist

dwlee, who do you think my buddy is? i dont think i can find a read implying an answer anywhere, aside from some maybe-joking(?) digs at std.

Dunn is scummier than STD but I haven't looked at associatives between y'all

Actually dunn feels like he is very transparently going for lim me -> lim STD for the win

He literally said it

Here is their progression

And like yea I townread prism and puppy where else would I be looking? Like my progression is as simple as "Poe on this neighborhood" but you're making it out to be some crazy unreasonable thing

[Dwlee99]

Okay, first, note there's a huge jump in post number.

Almost two days pass between these two posts (290 and 566)

, and this one comes AFTER todoroki is limmed. What is the commentary? That Todoroki was a bad wagon. I feel like it is super convenient for Dunn to claim this after the wagon had happened and without commenting on it or his read on Todoroki at all while it was happening. Oops, the wagon just happened?

See bolded, i didn't say anything about post time

[mc esther]

i cannot see any reason to flip dunnstral before flipping three-group

following up on this and the next post: i guess town!me/maf!dunn is a coherent belief which might lead you to vote dunn over three-group, but dwlee's the only one who's explicitly entertained those reads (and in very uncertain terms)

on a not-really-related note: dwlee seems hella survivalistic here, it feels like theyre just chasing whatever wagon isnt them -- theyve been open to voting both me and iv, and now things are turning on dunn, seem really set on dunn.

[Dunnstral]

Second, the pop-in after Todoroki was hammered is just atrocious.

This for post time. I started posting at the same time I do most days.

[Dunnstral]

How many times did I mention anyone day one...

You just brought up your case which was about me on day 1...

[Dwlee99]

i cannot see any reason to flip dunnstral before flipping three-group, even if your opinion is generally in favour of eliminating within six. why would you not want to check that association before committing to the read? ik prism and std dont really believe the assoc is that strong, but theyre not the ones voting him. puppy does, so their vote is simply misplaced according to their own beliefs (like, if im maf over iv, and dunn is maf over everyone else in his group, then you very obviously start by flipping the player whose flip potentially clears the other); though i'll admit im not sure dwlee ever weighed in on this.

I think limming in three is better but I feel more strongly on my Dunn scumread than either of y'all.

[Dwlee99]

How many times did I mention anyone day one...

You just brought up your case which was about me on day 1...

Second, the pop-in after Todoroki was hammered is just atrocious.

This for post time. I started posting at the same time I do most days.

But the wagon was going on for multiple days at that point :monocle:

How many times did I mention anyone day one...

You just brought up your case which was about me on day 1...

What does this have to do with literally anything? I made that case day 2 my dude

[Dwlee99]

i cannot see any reason to flip dunnstral before flipping three-group

on a not-really-related note: dwlee seems hella survivalistic here, it feels like theyre just chasing whatever wagon isnt them -- theyve been open to voting both me and iv, and now things are turning on dunn, seem really set on dunn.

This is garbage shade

[Save The Dragons]

Esther/dunn?