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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:26 am
by Frogsterking
Can you elaborate on what caused your reads to flip?
In post 1235, Nero Cain wrote:I mean maybe I'm alone here but that just doesn't fly with me. Like you are saying that you didn't want to think about mafia at 6 am but you signed in specifically to DEFEND your d1 actions. I could be wrong of course, but I just don't really understand why MND and BBT are giving you a free pass.
In post 1236, Ausuka wrote:I read the game and explained what I did because that required like literally zero critical analysis or thought on my part. I was repeating information I already knew
Providing partial answers to dilemmas like this is pretty much what I collected data for:
In post 490, Ausuka wrote:
not sure what this will do but i like personality quizzes so!
I can run my script on her answers to see what the actual sub facets are, but from eyeballing Ausuka's answers I can say that Ausuka is more likely to be telling the truth about their 6 am post.
I'm inclined to believe that you have a subconscious habit of scum leaning players for thread presence, Nero.
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:39 am
by Nero Cain
maybe?
If Ausuka was scum with Mohaab/Cresent I think there's some scum motivation in getting on to just quickly defend herself. If its 6am and she didn't feel like thinking or playing this game why was it so so so important to get on and claim that?
No one sees that so eh...
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 12:07 pm
by Nero Cain
it makes sense to me that an informed Ausuka would call my reads bad b/c she knew they were bad. I was also coming from a place where an Eiralox/Cresent team makes
MND
Greeting
Gandhi
town
leaving a POE of
BlueBloodedToffee
DeltaWave
Frogsterking
hoppip
Ausuka
If I follow through on my theory then delta and frog are town
leaving
BBT
hopip
Ausuka
are its just my thought that I think its Ausuka over hopip/BBT but they'll prob be flipped b4 her.
like I'm really confused why ppl are townreading her.
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 12:23 pm
by BlueBloodedToffee
I'm not paired with Mohab so I really shouldn't be there.
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 12:29 pm
by Nero Cain
I mean maybe Eira is just picking up on me pushing a Eira/Ausuka team and playing me but this post really makes me go
In post 1232, Eiralox wrote:I don't think their push on me is meticulous or inspired but I can't in good conscience frame it as scum rn.
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 12:31 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 1252, Nero Cain wrote:it makes sense to me that an informed Ausuka would call my reads bad b/c she knew they were bad. I was also coming from a place where an Eiralox/Cresent team makes
I agree that it's a possibility, I disagree that it's a probability.
These are the main questions and answers from Ausuka which make me think the behavior is NAI.
Ausuka is industrial and assertive. Means they are likely to share their opinion upon reading the topic at 6 am as Town.
In post 1250, Frogsterking wrote:"Enjoy the beauty of nature" = 5
"Enjoy thinking about things" = 2
"Cheat to get ahead" = 1
Ausuka is cooperative (possible alternative motivation for sharing their opinion.)
Ausuka is very high in fantasy/imagination (like me!!) and much lower in intellectual curiosity. This means we can expect Ausuka is primarily relying on their intuition, feelings and perceptual abilities rather than their analytical abilities to identify scum. Ausuka seems to be acting congruent with this because they wrote that 6 am felt too early for critical thinking, which implies to me that it didn't feel too early for sharing perceptual or intuitive thoughts, which is why they posted what they did.
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 12:37 pm
by DeltaWave
I kinda want to do this survey now so you can give me the Sigmund Freud treatment too
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 12:49 pm
by DeltaWave
Rate each descriptive statement on how well it describes you using the Likert scale (1 = strongly disagree to 5 = strongly agree).
"Get angry easily" = 1.5
"Take charge" = 4.2
"Make people feel welcome" = 3.3
"Like music" = 5.0
"Like to tidy up" = 1.2
"Like to visit new places" = 3.1
"Feel comfortable around people" = 5.0
"Interested in many things" = 5.0
"Love order and regularity" = 2.4
"Am afraid to draw attention to myself" = 1.5
"Enjoy being part of a large crowd" = 2.0
"Cheer people up" = 4.4
"Lose my temper" = 1.2
"Enjoy the beauty of nature" = 3.2
"Enjoy thinking about things" = 5.0
"Cheat to get ahead" = 3.0
"Feel desperate" = 1.1
"Rarely overindulge" = 2.5
"Easily resist temptations" = -1.0
"Have a high opinion of myself" = 5.0
"Waste my time" = 5.0
"Need a push to get started" = 4.0
"Have little to contribute" = 1.3
"Keep my cool" = 4.3
"Avoid crowds" = 3.2
"Turn my back on others" = 3.8
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 12:52 pm
by Greeting
I will do this on Day 3 after I see
Eiralox
's flip. That is, if I am still alive on Day 3.
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 12:55 pm
by DeltaWave
In post 1221, Eiralox wrote:
omf i read this as u wanting to vote me which prompted my 1194. which was... senselessly offensive considering u never even said u were gonna vote me. yeah if i'm starting to misread posts like this, like seeing what I expect rather than maintaining a judicial mindset, it's time for me to take a breather. Think I'll return tommorow.
I think i'll be very glad if some of the votes on me come with cases. I'll be even gladder if gandhi and hopip start to be more proactive so we can sort this.
Have fun ya'll.
i don't know exactly how to put this into words, but your extremely defensive/persecuted reaction strikes me as something that is at least not scummy and perhaps townie. the pure volatility of it. call it a "frustrated townie" vibe. i think you're out of my poe for right now.
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 12:57 pm
by Greeting
Actually, I was wondering why I wasn't killed tonight and
furtiveglance
was. My guess is that there are no more Mafia Goons in this game and so my role isn't a threat to the mafia anymore. I will still continue checking people in case I am wrong though. I'm planning on targeting
hoppip
on Night 2.
Still though, it's kinda weird that they would sacrifice
Crescent
like this. I made it clear that I would be likely targeting her tonight (
1062). If she hadn't been vigged, I would have announced my guilty and she would be gone on Day 2 anyway.
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 12:59 pm
by Frogsterking
Happy birthday, Delta
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:00 pm
by DeltaWave
In post 1260, Greeting wrote:Actually, I was wondering why I wasn't killed tonight and
furtiveglance
was.
many possible reasons, some of them WIFOM. not really wise to chug the wifom unless there's some really cogent case behind it
p-edit: thanks, 11 years on MS!
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:00 pm
by DeltaWave
i was in my last year of law school when i joined and now i'm a senior trial attorney lol
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:03 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 1263, DeltaWave wrote:i was in my last year of law school when i joined and now i'm a senior trial attorney lol
Okay, and do you work at a firm?
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:03 pm
by Greeting
In post 1263, DeltaWave wrote:i was in my last year of law school when i joined and now i'm a senior trial attorney lol
Happy scumday, and congratulations. Being a trial attorney is great if you like arguing and, like, standing your ground though.
I graduated Law myself, but I'm planning on a career switch as I'm very susceptible to work-related stress and pressure which is abundant in the legal sector unfortunately.
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:04 pm
by DeltaWave
yeah. i used to be the general counsel for a company but they went under due to covid and now i'm back to trial law.
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:07 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 1266, DeltaWave wrote:
yeah. i used to be the general counsel for a company but they went under due to covid and now i'm back to trial law.
How do you feel about the work culture at your firm?
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:07 pm
by DeltaWave
In post 1267, Frogsterking wrote: In post 1266, DeltaWave wrote:
yeah. i used to be the general counsel for a company but they went under due to covid and now i'm back to trial law.
How do you feel about the work culture at your firm?
this is actually the best firm i've worked at. there's a legitimate team spirit and it lacks the kind of backstabbing/undermining that is typical in law firms. very unusual environment
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:12 pm
by DeltaWave
era - what does "townlock" mean to you, specifically
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:13 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 1268, DeltaWave wrote: In post 1267, Frogsterking wrote: In post 1266, DeltaWave wrote:
yeah. i used to be the general counsel for a company but they went under due to covid and now i'm back to trial law.
How do you feel about the work culture at your firm?
this is actually the best firm i've worked at. there's a legitimate team spirit and it lacks the kind of backstabbing/undermining that is typical in law firms. very unusual environment
Is the environment unusual only because of the lack of backstabbing or are there other aspects which make it unusual to work there?
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:13 pm
by DeltaWave
In post 1270, Frogsterking wrote: In post 1268, DeltaWave wrote: In post 1267, Frogsterking wrote: In post 1266, DeltaWave wrote:
yeah. i used to be the general counsel for a company but they went under due to covid and now i'm back to trial law.
How do you feel about the work culture at your firm?
this is actually the best firm i've worked at. there's a legitimate team spirit and it lacks the kind of backstabbing/undermining that is typical in law firms. very unusual environment
Is the environment unusual only because of the lack of backstabbing or are there other aspects which make it unusual to work there?
i'm fine w/talking about this but is this related to mafia? i will keep answering if this is some psychoanalysis thing because i want to know my personality type
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:14 pm
by Nero Cain
a law firm without backstabbing? Such a bore
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:19 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 1271, DeltaWave wrote: In post 1270, Frogsterking wrote: In post 1268, DeltaWave wrote: In post 1267, Frogsterking wrote: In post 1266, DeltaWave wrote:
yeah. i used to be the general counsel for a company but they went under due to covid and now i'm back to trial law.
How do you feel about the work culture at your firm?
this is actually the best firm i've worked at. there's a legitimate team spirit and it lacks the kind of backstabbing/undermining that is typical in law firms. very unusual environment
Is the environment unusual only because of the lack of backstabbing or are there other aspects which make it unusual to work there?
i'm fine w/talking about this but is this related to mafia? i will keep answering if this is some psychoanalysis thing because i want to know my personality type
It's related to both topics
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:20 pm
by DeltaWave
oh cool. they take advantage of better systems, e.g. we're completely digital with e-signatures etc etc instead of fully paper files and that sort of thing. they also have a well-defined role for paralegals which is sometimes a question mark in firms