destructor wrote:Elmo played a good Cop. I appreciated his comment about trying to play just scummily enough not to be a nightkill but also not be a huge suspect and I think he did that well.
Yeah, I think I played it about right, it went bit different to how I thought it would go due to almost everyone alive being obv town, haha. The missing kills make my play seem fairly pointless, actually, but I think if it hadn't gone that way, getting the cop through to endgame alive with a bunch of living innocents might have been much stronger. Oh well. I thought the town was probably strong enough that we had good chances if I backed off scumhunting a little - I would have gone psycho on Yos2, Korts, and Vollkan in that order had I been vanilla, so I think I was probably right on that @_@. Definitely right about the town's scumhunting too, they did really well. It actually looked
easy
, surprisingly.
I'm not sure if I'd play cop the same way again, but it's certainly something I wanted to try out sometime. It's surprisingly stressful to have to avoid looking scummy
and
avoid looking townish
and
know that you have to hide that you're doing it. Especially I was worried that someone would just tell Korts to kill me without thinking of asking me for a claim. I thought Yos2 was scum, and hoped that he remembered being town with me in Packrats where I showed the same kind of attitude as vanilla, otherwise I might have done it a bit differently.
Adel wrote:The only real mistake made by any town player was Elmo not sending in an investigation during day 2. Even though he had an innocent on BM from day 1, I don't think that it was a mistake for him to not clear BM. Letting BM hang was probably good for the town.
I could be misremembering, but I think Day 2 was in the period where I had the bout of lurking. I didn't want to make another decision when I posted my "hi, here" post because I couldn't think straight, I thought I'd come back after some sleep and try and assess if defending BM was plausible. I suppose it's arguable whether I made a mistake not sending in an investigation or whether the town made a mistake of accidentally hammering. I would probably have defended him as vanilla, but it would probably have been a bit obvious given the roles and my d1 breadcrumb.
The bigger mistake was simply investigating BM. A decent cop aiming for innocents should simply not have their investigatee run up the next day. That, again, was a too-quick decision after Guardian was killed and I saw the day might end without me getting an investigation in. I was really amazed at how he managed to draw that number of votes that fast, especially in a strong town who know his reputation full well. (I did genuinely think he was a bit likely to be town on day 1.)
FWIW, the 2-week lurking was not intentional and totally unavoidable, I'm sorry about that. I approve of the rules on replacements. I pretty much forced myself to post every day even though I felt I was going to be incoherent to try and compensate.
I'm curious as to what people think of my play. The only thing I wish I did differently was choosing between FL and Vollkan; they were both scum, and yet again I kind of really struggled to choose between them because of that, which always results in: scum lynched, hey wasn't Elmo being really wishy-washy, vote Elmo.
I wanted to get more out of the day since I thought it was likely something weird was going on (and it was). I wish people would stop seeing "I'm not sure" as automatically scummy.
Elmo wrote:I really don't like that list, but I have no idea why.
I finally figured this out!
vollkan wrote:4. FL - {bad reasons}
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vollkan wrote:You know better than most how much I tend to vacillate and obsess about different possibilities.
is why. I have no idea why people thought he wouldn't be bussing FL, it's almost a textbook situation where bussing is the only viable route. Chalk another one up for "bussing is magic pixie dust". =D
roflcopter wrote:i also tried really hard d1 to make des an nk target, so that whole "who do you think is town" schtick was part of my strategy
That's pretty smart. I was surprised you were the doc, since you were so obviously town. WIFOM?
I was right about the Guardian kill being mafia! Whee. I wonder if it was why I thought? I'd be really interested to see the quicktopic. I have no idea why they thought Korts was a good kill. Hadn't he claimed Guardian, a mafia kill as his own at that point?
Yosarian2 wrote:Elmo hasn't done that much yet, but I totally expect him to nail the scum godfather given another 48 hours or so, so I'll give him some breathing room.
This is some serious irony, right here. I read this and thought "how does he know the scum have a godfather?" which made me suspicious of him. I later considered investigating him, but avoided it because I felt that he was scummy and based on what he said, if he was scum he was likely to be a godfather. And thank god for that!
Can't agree more with what's been said, the night actions paint a slightly different picture than my thoughts of the game, but the town was pretty devastatingly good. It was quite literally like X, Y, Z are all obv town, who's left? I think it's ironic that Vollkan began the game with a tirade against towntells and ended it having his mafia group destroyed by them
That was long. gg wp town!
Succinctness is pro-town.
Passion is inversely proportional to the amount of real information available. ~ Gregory Benford