All Greek To Me - Over

[Kappa]

k, I'm ready to lynch Iota

Unvote: Upsilon
Vote: Iota

[Kappa]

gamma wanna hammah?

[Gamma AGTM]

ugh if this is 3/3 and i just lost the game. i've played pretty terribly anyway all game so it'll not be surprising. remember scum, crosskill like a bitch tonight.

Unvote Vote Iota

did i just lose the game?

[Kappa]

Nah, not yet at least.

[Alpha]

Alpha, why did your other kills not go through?

No one else has claimed roleblocker, so you're either scum or the scum have a roleblocker(s).

Is a Standard Mafia Messenger (Omicron) a roleblocker? This would mean the Emperor Mafia Messenger can still block someone...

That would also mean there were 3 roleblockers in the game (if the scum teams are symmetrical in abilities). Haven't see that in too many games, but I have seen it before (usually with larger scum teams and larger games). With that many blockers I'm not surprised that there was a lack of kill on so many nights, since there are technically 4 killing factions.

Hmm, I'll have to go back and try to decide whether Iota is Emperor or Standard.

btw, if scum do kill on alternate nights, Alpha's claim is hella scummy.

i'm also confused about the roleblockers and the lack of kills. i've been blocked twice and mu is not the scum being blocked. so i don't know.

i actually don't think the scum kill on alternate nights, as it will make them so weak. a 2-men scum team with only 1 shot per 2 nights? but it makes the lack of kills more serious.

[Max]

As you begin to bandwagon Iota you notice a few people still trying for other lynches:

Iota (3): Alpha, Kappa, Gamma
Alpha (1): Upsilon
Gamma (1): Iota

You quickly string him up, you go to his house and see drawings of a fantastical land that Kappa had already described to you. You look to him and see him sobbing heavily.

Iota - Standard Mafia Kidnapper - Lynched Day 8

Kappa - Stockholm Syndrome Sufferer - Suicided Twilight 8

This will be the last night almost definitely so... I'll give you 48 hours to get in your actions.

[Max]

Alpha ran through the now empty streets and hunted for Gamma to kill. He found him and drove his letter obsoletion device through his heart. Gamma was no more

Gamma - One Shot Kill-Avoider - Killed Night 8

Alpha decided now to seek out Upsilon, he didn't do very well. Just when he decided to deal with him in the morning he turned around and saw Upsilon with a pizza cutter. Alpha laughed before being stabbed in the jugular many times.

Alpha - Emperor Tailor - Killed Night 8

Upsilon had a massive smile on his face, admittedly every other letter there ever was has actually been made obsolete and redundant, but does he mind? No of course not, he's won. He killed off every single person, not single handedly but with the help of some friends.

Upsilon - Standard Mafia Role Nullifier - Won

Iota - Standard Mafia Kidnapper - Won

Omicron - Standard Mafia Messenger - Won

Everybody else has lost.

[Max]

Night Actions: - http://www.quicktopic.com/43/H/x7YtqQ9fTftee
Player to Account Link: - http://www.quicktopic.com/43/H/wptrnDx7Tkm
Account Passwords: - http://www.quicktopic.com/43/H/PF5um3i6ujGU

Not all night actions there. But the Iota action and the last night you can figure out from flavour.
After a certain point I stopped doing password changes. I can't remember when.

If you want one of these accounts let me know so I can make their PMs public etc.

MAFIA SIDES:

The God Mafia:

Alpha

You are Alpha to the Omega, you are both here until the ultimately inevitable end of time... well so you hoped it appeared being God wasn't enough for everyone. So you decided to break away into a scum group what joy.

Every night you can make letter obsolete until you are the only people remaining or you can cause a type one error (Explanation) in effect acting as a tailor for the evening. You (however) cannot do both.

There is a twist however, Omega cannot die until you have, by no ways currently known though I wouldn't dare put it past them to invent a new and interesting way

Omega

You are Omega! The last letter of the greek alphabet and therefore you wish to be the last to die. It seems only fair right? So you and Alpha have every intention of destroying all of space and time and because of that you will do... seriously.

Each evening you will make a letter obsolete casting it out of space and time or you can measure the resistance of opposing forces (in effect acting as a census taker - one shot ability). You cannot kill and use your power.

There is a twist however, you cannot die until Alpha has past its sell by date. After all he's the beginning you might as well be the end. Though the evil town may invent something

Little Use Mafia:

Omicron

Along with Upsilon and Iota you feel that you have been left out in the cold by these over-used letters. You are sick to death hearing about Alpha and Omega, Phi and Pi yet never anything about you three. Because of which you are fighting against the town to destroy them completely.

Each night you may cast one letter into the oblivion known as being obsolete or you (personally) may be able to send a message of up to 130 words to an increasing number of players.

You are in effect a recruiting one way messenger. You may not perform the kill and message players on the same evening.

You win if you control all of the town or nothing could prevent the same

Upsilon

Along with Omicron and Iota you feel that you have been left out in the cold by these over-used letters. You are sick to death hearing about Alpha and Omega, Phi and Pi yet never anything about you three. Because of which you are fighting against the town to destroy them completely.

Each night you may cast one letter into the oblivion known as being obsolete or you (personally) can make a power role a "quark" for the rest of the game, you may only use this ability once regardless of the success you have. You may not perform the team kill and make someone a "quark" on the same night.

You win if you control all of the town or nothing could prevent the same

Iota

Along with Omicron and Upsilon you feel that you have been left out in the cold by these over-used letters. You are sick to death hearing about Alpha and Omega, Phi and Pi yet never anything about you three. Because of which you are fighting against the town to destroy them completely.

Each night you may cast one letter into the oblivion known as being obsolete or as an imaginary unit you can kidnap a player once. They will return to the game the following evening but they will not be there for the next day and instead in an imaginary world you create for them. They cannot be targeted for that evening nor the evening after and they cannot use their ability for the same period. To maintain the spell on the player you must also leave the game with them.

You cannot do both on one evening.

You win if you control all of the town or nothing could prevent the same

NOTE: The kidnapped player from that moment forward suffers from Stockholm Syndrome, and they form a lover group. If either dies so does the other.

Obsolete SK:

Phi

You are an artistic prodigy, you are the perfect way of expressing art, though in reality you are not as you seem, each evening you kill and take on the form of you predecessor. With your incredible capabilities of making the perfect piece of art you can kill and move on to the next stage of your grand plan. Though there are downsides if you shift into someone who is killed by a third party that night you will die. If otherwise targeted in your old body you will survive

If you morph into scum you will acquire their group ability.

To the rest of the town it will appear as your old body died e.g. Night 1 Phi will die though technically even though you haven't died.)

You win if you are the last remaining letter or if nothing can prevent the same.

TOWN SIDES:

Sigma

You are sigma, the letter for calculating the sum of things but in this case you cannot use that. And also the letter for standard deviation, with your knowledge of what deviates you can find if a player is deviating to a bad side of the game. You will receive one of three numbers to determine their standard deviation:

1 - Denotes they have little movement and are fairly constant. (i.e. Town)
2 - You see movement in the data (i.e. Scum)

You win when all anti-town factions are obsolete.

Epsilon

You are Epsilon, a little known but rather useful letter. You can effect the Axial_Tilt, you cause a double day when you die. I.e. the opposite effect of a beloved princess.

This is a passive ability.

You win when all anti-town factions are obsolete

Lambda

You are Lambda, you can calculate the failure rate of items and with a bit of "creative calculation" you can cause letters to fail their actions. You are in effect a roleblocker, each evening you may roleblock one player to cause their ability to fail. If their ability is one shot it will be considered used.

You win when all anti-town factions are obsolete

Gamma

You are Gamma, you are almost unstoppable you cannot be killed the first time around instead only weakened. However when you are weakened you can only vote to hammer. The second time someone tries to take your life you die. Poor soul.

This is a passive ability.

You win when all anti-town factions are obsolete

Zeta

You are Zeta, you measure friction... which means you can also see when there is no friction between people. You are a recruiting mason and each evening you can recruit one player to your group if they are pro-town you will be successful, if they are anti-town you will die.

You may not discuss with your group your decision to recruit specific players.

You win when all anti-town factions are obsolete

Delta

You are delta, a rather lonely letter, but a powerful one, you measure heat in chemical reactions. You therefore understand how to reverse a reaction to your favour. You will be able to incite hatred against one player on your lynch when you are dying and they will die with you.

You must send this choice during the day not during twilight.

You win when all anti-town factions are obsolete

Eta

You are Eta, you understand fully the way that refraction works and you can use this to your advantage, you can slow things by such an extent you can see exactly what people are doing and then you can mimic them and perform that action on another person.

You cannot perform this action on some people as they are (un)naturally fast.

You win when all anti-town factions are obsolete

MODNOTE: Cannot mimic passive abilities or SK

Xi

You are Xi. You are used to represent random variables, as of such you are uncertain what action you will perform each evening. You may if you so wish select a player which will have one of the following applied to them:

1. Cop Investigation
2. Doctor Protection
3. Vigilante Kill
4. Roleblocking

However you do not know which.
You win when all anti-town factions are obsolete

Chi

You are chi, a variable in algebraic equations. You don't want to tie yourself down to one specific thing but you don't want to be made obsolete, so through fear you have decided to make a stand against the anti-town players of the group.

You win when all anti-town factions are obsolete

Psi

You are Psi, water potential. Unfortunately there is no water in this world so you have absolutely no power in being able to determine anything more than what you can with a vote.

You win when all anti-town factions are obsolete

Beta

You are Beta, the second letter of the Greek alphabet. Used to represent beta radiation, though this isn't all negative (sorry about that awful science pun there). You are 100% innocent, though you have no power in this world.

You win when all anti-town factions are obsolete

Rho

You are Rho, used in queuing theory you may appear to be a fairly unexciting letter, how wrong you are. You are very exciting but unfortunately too exciting for anybody to think of a power role for you. So you are vanilla.

You win when all anti-town factions are obsolete

Tau

You are tau, the rather unexciting Greek letter, you measure time. Which in all honesty is kind of useless in this game so you are in effect Vanilla, though if this changes I'll be sure to let you know

You win when all anti-town factions are obsolete

Pi

You are Pi, and thanks to you we now how to calculate things to do with circles. Unfortunately you suffer from circular logic... how ironic. Though asides from that you are kind of useless really.

You win when all anti-town factions are obsolete

Theta

You are Theta a rather obtuse character which measures angles. Well I hate to disappoint you but the only sort of angle being tested are your reflexes, which means like so many others you are just a plain old vanilla who can measure plane angles.

You win when all anti-town factions are obsolete

Kappa

You are Kappa. You can measure the curvature of pretty much everything which is rather unexciting. However you have a feeling your powers could be useful at some point in time.

You win when all anti-town factions are obsolete

Mu

You are Mu, you are used to show micro things. It's because you are so small minded you never really thought about anything you might want to do in the future. You went with the crowd and you are pretty certain you don't want to be overthrown by evil people.

You win when all anti-town factions are obsolete

Nu

You are Nu. Which is used to represent poisson distribution which is a rather amusing name for a distribution because if you were french it would mean fish distribution. Which is where your power comes from you can breath underwater in a fish like manner. There is a downside. In this world there is no water... so you're, vanilla.

You win when all anti-town factions are obsolete

Summary:
2 Mafia A (Player 1 = Tailor, Player 2 = Census Taker - Emperor)
3 Mafia B (Player 1 = Recruiting Messenger, Player 2 = Quack Maker, Player 3 = Kidnapper)
1 Shapeshifting SK

1 Cop
1 Opposite of BP
1 Roleblocker
1 Deathskipper
1 Recruiting Mason (All recruitees maintain powers but cannot discuss them)
1 Vengeful Townie
1 Copycat
1 Random Inventor
10 Vanilla

Omicron's PM did mention the Alpha and Omega Pairing.
Alpha had been screwed over by the Omega being mod-killed. I'm sure you'll agree that I did the right thing. Despite the role being unkillable I didn't want the game to turn into Mod-Wifom. (I'd have done the same for Gamma)

If Omega didn't get modkilled this game would have turned out differently. That role I think was from a CentralScrutinizer game I was going to be playing in where the Godfather could only die after his minions. I'll probably use the role again to ensure there is some sort of parity.

[Max]

A few vanilla townies had the "This may change" clause. I added this to keep mod-wifom in there. I've always wanted roles that are "inherited" and giving people the idea that something might change allows people something to claim from there role PM. Tau and Kappa for example would be able to semi-confirm each other.

[Glork]

Iota should have died IMMEDIATELY after Omicron died. I have no fucking clue why you would decide to lynch ANYONE ELSE instead, but that was the most obvious scum pairing I've ever seen in my entire 5+ years of playing Mafia, and everyone completely dropped the ball on that one.

That said, Mu's play was terrible; he proved himself to be aloof and useless for much of the game -- including throughout endgame -- so to a very small degree, I understand the mislynch.

[Glork]

EBWOP: Right, the kidnapping/sleep thing. Fuck that ability.

[Iota]

It annoys me how no matter how terrible I am, I can't help but win anyway. Well done team.

[Faraday]

Yeah he was dead if he'd been able to be lynched. It was quite irksome.

In case it wasn't obvious, I'm Gamma. Ughhhh.

I've learned playing with alts makes it extremely difficult, I'm not sure if Mu was trolling but it seemed like that.

The vanilla who lied with the horrible claim also confuses me. Why the fuck would you do that?

Glork you were kappa v2?

Alpha why did you kill me? I thought i was pretty obv town, unless of course that's the reason..but I'd have thought you'd have been aiming for scum.

The set-up is actually quite cool although I'm not sure I like Iota's abillity - it's obviously scummy but it turned out to be very powerful. Bleh.

[Faraday]

So do the alts want to reveal themselves? Kinda looking forward to see who I was playing with.

Upsilon = Snow White @ a guess though. I think it was upsilon, it mirrored her typing style really well anyway.

[Glork]

Psh, please.

I was Pi v2... you know, the one that replaced into the game, immediately pointed at Omicron, Iota, Alpha, Mu (whoops), and Upsilon as the likely scumbags.

[Glork]

Faraday, the alts are listed in one of Max's links:

Player to Account Link: - http://www.quicktopic.com/43/H/wptrnDx7Tkm

Also, regarding the alts. It's actually the only reason I replaced into this game. No offense to Max personally, but I typically stay away from his games, because the roles tend to be near-impossible to figure out, and I feel that even differently-themed games should give the players a pretty decent chance of understanding what the hell is going on.

I wanted to see how anonymous scumhunting would work out, because I've never played under an alt, and I was curious to play a game without having my own reputation preceed me. Truth be told, it was extremely easy, which I think was a combination of the "alts" mechanic and the fact that I replaced into the game without any preconceptions. When in-game, even a re-read is somewhat tainted by your prior suspicions/feelings. This time around, I didn't have to deal with any of that on TWO different levels, and I think it really showed.

[animorpherv1]

YES! YES! I DID IT! I WON!

My gamble on Alpha shooting Gamma paid off. I replaced in Upsilon last.

[Glork]

YES! YES! I DID IT! I WON!

My gamble on Alpha shooting Gamma paid off. I replaced in Upsilon last.

It wasn't much of a gamble.

Alpha was part of a two-person scumgroup.
Two people from the other scumgroup were dead.
Alpha could logically conclude that he was the only scumbag left, so it didn't matter who he shot.

Your decision was obvious, because Alpha was the obvious scumbag. You mostly got lucky that Alpha went picked Gamma, not you. (Incidentally, I think that's extremely unfair to have different-sized scumgroups without giving the smaller one some indication that the other one is larger. This is another excellent example of why I tend to stay away from Max's games. Alpha/Omega got completely screwed by the setup here.)


But who am I to rain on your parade? Grats on the win.

[Faraday]

Psh, please.

I was Pi v2... you know, the one that replaced into the game, immediately pointed at Omicron, Iota, Alpha, Mu (whoops), and Upsilon as the likely scumbags.

Oh that makes sense too

[animorpherv1]

YES! YES! I DID IT! I WON!

My gamble on Alpha shooting Gamma paid off. I replaced in Upsilon last.

It wasn't much of a gamble.

Alpha was part of a two-person scumgroup.
Two people from the other scumgroup were dead.
Alpha could logically conclude that he was the only scumbag left, so it didn't matter who he shot.

Your decision was obvious, because Alpha was the obvious scumbag. You mostly got lucky that Alpha went picked Gamma, not you. (Incidentally, I think that's extremely unfair to have different-sized scumgroups without giving the smaller one some indication that the other one is larger. This is another excellent example of why I tend to stay away from Max's games. Alpha/Omega got completely screwed by the setup here.)


But who am I to rain on your parade? Grats on the win.

I KNEW Alpha was going to shoot Gamma. IMO, Alpha was just trying to gain town cred for later. Thanks anyways.

[Glork]

There is no "credit for later" in a three person endgame, genius.

[Lowell]

Iota here

[animorpherv1]

There is no "credit for later" in a three person endgame, genius.

I know THAT. Alpha doesn't.

Also, Lowell stop being so Scummy.

[Lowell]

Heh. You wish. Thank god I'm great anyway.

[manho]

i KNOW that the other mafia team has 3 scums. my team WAS so powerful as i'm a godfather with investigate-immune and omega is a godfather with kill-immune. the other team needs 3 to count mine.

and i take the gamble that gamma is scum instead of upsilon, as a scum-upsilon will definitely shoot me instead of gamma, but a scum-gamma may shoot upsilon instead. i need gamma to be scum to win.