The problem with this argument is that NSin could say it just as much.
So.
What I need is a reason why I should believe it coming from your mouth, but not believe it coming from NSin's.
This is called "convincing."
Why do you think Jake is town?
a) I found his posts pg 40-47 to be town, his PR usage and targets to be from a town mindset, and I can follow his thought process,
b) He was willing to put himself on the line to Darox and was more or less taunting Darox to kill him,
c) He's willing to lynch Flay and Flay is scum.
In post 1269, Jake from State Farm wrote:Flay was posting in some bs thread ALL day yesterday when this one is open. That's not a townie thing to do in lylo.
Fuck you. I'm on vacation, as you clearly know from reading my siteiso. The only thread I posted in significantly was the ORGANIZATION THREAD for the meetup.
I don't post in games when on vacation except for the minimum. It takes me an hour or more to compile meaningful posts for a game. LyLO is NOT the time to rush, so this is what you get until I get home tonight. Tomorrow I am home for EXACTLY one day before vacation part two, so you should get content then.
Magua: Everyone's scummy right now (except you, arguably), but I'm toying with the idea of looking at who is trying to push a quicklynch in lylo of a vla player. That sounds promising.
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:06 am
by Jake from State Farm
Fine you are on v/la, but the rest of my case is still valid.
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:11 am
by Magua
I want to take a moment to just say to Jake and the other town, I really, really, really, really fucking hate you for NLing yesterday. We could've shot Flay and then had a mislynch available to lynch both NSin and notscience if necessary. Just....just....sad.
That said, NSin is posting in other games but not here. So you know what? I just don't give a shit anymore. He can be the other scum.
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:33 am
by Jake from State Farm
The only other person ill vote is notsience.
Darox didn't look like he was going to shoot and I felt better with an odd number.
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:35 am
by Magua
Explain to me the difference between Flay-posting-elsethread-but-not-here and NSin-posting-elsethread-but-not-here.
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:43 am
by Magua
Alternatively, tell me why notsience over NSin.
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:05 am
by Jake from State Farm
there is no real difference I guess but in my mind I already have the scum narrowed down, that said I am only going to vote Flay today and will try to figure out the other scum tomorrow.
why notscience over NSin? I feel like NSin's contributions when he replaced in were pretty good, where as notscience contrabution all game have been horrible. I also don't like that notscience tried to clear flay earlier based on meta from another game, but flay's play in that other game is no where remotely similar to his play this game.
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:29 am
by Magua
Kindly point me out to the contributions from NSin you think are pretty good, because I just looked again and I don't see *any*.
notscience, previous to saying it was you+NSin, was calling Flay scum. It's somewhat amusing, as notscience says in 1196 that scum are within (Flay, Darox, me), indicating he thinks you and NSin are town, and then turns and completely one eighties his reads based off a single line of yours.
That is so completely terrible.
But that doesn't mean it's scum.
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My big fear is that we lynch Flay today, I die tonight, then tomorrow notscience goes after you and gives the hammer to NSin.
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:34 am
by Jake from State Farm
I'm hammering tomorrow cause flay's scum flip would essentially paint you and I as confirmed town, especially with not sciences false accusation that I was setting up a quick hammer.
Ill point out the posts later
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:48 am
by Jake from State Farm
actually I take that back, re-reading the message I sent to sundy and reading NSin's first post descibing the message he received, he absolutely twisted the message around to make it sound completely different. I never said "I will kill you scum"
that means notscience is probably just trolling us this game and I will avoid him in the future.
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:03 am
by notscience
Yeah I agree notscience is a troll
Magua, you've modded a game I've been in. You should know I suck at convincing people.
If I was scum, why would I have called that bit out from jake? Wouldn't I just have let him do it then hammer?
In post 1293, Jake from State Farm wrote:actually I take that back, re-reading the message I sent to sundy and reading NSin's first post descibing the message he received, he absolutely twisted the message around to make it sound completely different. I never said "I will kill you scum"
Inquiring minds wish to know what it was (paraphrased) that you said.
In post 1294, notscience wrote:If I was scum, why would I have called that bit out from jake? Wouldn't I just have let him do it then hammer?
Because Flay is scum.
notscience wrote:Magua, you've modded a game I've been in. You should know I suck at convincing people.
No, the problem is that you're not trying to convince anyone of anything at all. This is not a problem unique to just you, but it is a problem.
For instance.
You think that Jake+NSin is the scumteam. This means, FYPOV, you need you+me+Flay to vote correctly to get a lynch.
You're not trying to convince Flay to vote anyone.
You're not trying to convince me to vote NSin -- see my responses to your "but I'm town" post.
Being *bad* at convincing would be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than what you are doing now, which is *nothing*.
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:17 am
by Jake from State Farm
"dude, I know you are scum, prepare to die tomorrow"
It's one-liners that have been sporadic and when they get a response they usually help me get a read on someone, yet they've been overall ignored.
Magua, I've been wrong in LyLo twice recently. It's why I'm not trying to convince people, because the last 2 times I thought someone was scum in lylo they flipped town.