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In post 1272, Gamma Emerald wrote:One of my preferred scumhunting methods is watching people interact with confirmed town. Scum will try to discredit them any way they can.

In post 1272, Gamma Emerald wrote:One of my preferred scumhunting methods is watching people interact with confirmed town. Scum will try to discredit them any way they can.

In post 1265, mhsmith0 wrote:You're making a list of things she could have said but are failing to explain why any of them would actually be helpful to you.

Let's start with the first one: that she thinks pie is a wolf (it's a reasonably obvious possible answer). Having her out that read at a time when pie isn't under pressure isn't necessarily helpful to anyone, since if pie is suspicious it's more helpful to have other people be bringing up points there, and then if pie flips wolf you can better evaluate who pressured her and why. Like, walk through that scenario, where the actual answer is that nahdia suspects pie, and come up with a town-positive reason for her to out that suspicion, because I don't see any.

Instead, it looks like you're either fake scum-hunting the IC or maybe just asking the IC to tell you what to think. Which is, at best, lazy town.

In post 1274, mhsmith0 wrote:

In post 1270, Human Sequencer wrote:OK now maybe you're onto something MH.

Perhaps. I probably need to ISO him and see where that goes, but at the very least that was a ping and something he did a pretty poor job defending on.

In post 1277, Human Sequencer wrote:Parma is right by the way, Shadow literally just lied about his perspective at an earlier point in the game.
We can't not lynch shadow today. No way.

In post 1278, inspectorscout wrote:So because I'm not the IC I'm supposed to shit out reads but the IC shouldn't. Bullshit, the IC is our most valuable player and should voice her thoughts. She asked you about a specific player and I wanted to know why that player in particular. Not because I find Nahdia questionable, but it seemed to be an odd player to ask about.

Either of those answers gives me a clearer view of her reads and on the way she thinks. It's the way I play and the way I think. Unless I think you're scum I consider your reads and want to know why they are that way. It's called a town, not a single player.

In post 1255, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 1226, mhsmith0 wrote:

In post 1074, Shadow_step wrote:Seeing how the last game went, I think it's better to push a lynch on your own partner instead of suiciding if you think they are scum.
Town have more info if there is a lynch.

Fwiw this almost exactly mirrored what I'd said to pie in our PT earlier. Minor possible partner points there, thought I'd like to think they wouldn't make that easy of an error.

Also exactly mirrors what I said earlier:

In post 975, Dunnstral wrote:Can you stop giving up by the way

If you think he's town don't leave the dance. Make other people vote for him.

In post 979, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 976, MariaR wrote:I don't townread him enough to trust in my own abilities

You shouldn't suicide a null read.

Make other people vote for him. Even if he's scum we get information

In post 983, Dunnstral wrote:There shouldn't be any case where you do that

I'm saying town gets more information and scum have to potentially reach to try to lynch him.

If he's scum, we still get more information from a lynch

You don't know what a last resort is. You just want to die a hero. But you're not.

In post 1282, mhsmith0 wrote:PS If SAD is a wolf, then MDS is pretty likely a wolf too for the IS WK.

In post 1272, Gamma Emerald wrote:One of my preferred scumhunting methods is watching people interact with confirmed town. Scum will try to discredit them any way they can.

In post 1285, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 1282, mhsmith0 wrote:PS If SAD is a wolf, then MDS is pretty likely a wolf too for the IS WK.

And which would you lynch first?

In post 1282, mhsmith0 wrote:

In post 1278, inspectorscout wrote:So because I'm not the IC I'm supposed to shit out reads but the IC shouldn't. Bullshit, the IC is our most valuable player and should voice her thoughts. She asked you about a specific player and I wanted to know why that player in particular. Not because I find Nahdia questionable, but it seemed to be an odd player to ask about.

Either of those answers gives me a clearer view of her reads and on the way she thinks. It's the way I play and the way I think. Unless I think you're scum I consider your reads and want to know why they are that way. It's called a town, not a single player.

The IC being open and clear about reads, especially super early in the game, is less of a priority than everyone else being open and clear about reads (especially since the IC can't possibly be NK'd before a number of lynches happen first). It's a strange priority for a town player to have at this juncture.

PS If SAD is a wolf, then MDS is pretty likely a wolf too for the IS WK.

In post 1281, Human Sequencer wrote:He literally just told me he's unsure. How is that biased?

In post 1288, Human Sequencer wrote:@mh, I am unfamiliar with the term 'WK', could you please educate me?

In post 1253, Human Sequencer wrote:I don't trust you as much~
Besides that your reads are probably trash~
Just like last game~

By all means, go ahead.

In post 1288, Human Sequencer wrote:@mh, I am unfamiliar with the term 'WK', could you please educate me?

In post 1289, inspectorscout wrote:

In post 1282, mhsmith0 wrote:

In post 1278, inspectorscout wrote:So because I'm not the IC I'm supposed to shit out reads but the IC shouldn't. Bullshit, the IC is our most valuable player and should voice her thoughts. She asked you about a specific player and I wanted to know why that player in particular. Not because I find Nahdia questionable, but it seemed to be an odd player to ask about.

Either of those answers gives me a clearer view of her reads and on the way she thinks. It's the way I play and the way I think. Unless I think you're scum I consider your reads and want to know why they are that way. It's called a town, not a single player.

The IC being open and clear about reads, especially super early in the game, is less of a priority than everyone else being open and clear about reads (especially since the IC can't possibly be NK'd before a number of lynches happen first). It's a strange priority for a town player to have at this juncture.

PS If SAD is a wolf, then MDS is pretty likely a wolf too for the IS WK.

But I'm not asking her to be open with her reads? I indirectly asked if that was an attempt at scumhunting on you, genuine interest in your read for some reason or lack of own reads? I didn't have a good read on you, and neither on pie.

Why, if you think I'm scum, are you even talking about SAD? Do you think we are both scum? You saying this shows that you are either townreading me or throwing shade.

As you would put it:
You're attempting to find associative tells before any informational flip has occured. It's a strange priority for a town player to have at this juncture.

In post 1295, inspectorscout wrote:I know
But he is trying to discredit my play. He called me 'lazy town at best' while I definitely had a reason for asking