I'm thinking maybe we shouldn't be pushing lynches until hws/md/tw post
Currently we can just lynch jjh if there's a cc
If one of those three is lined up for a lynch (including for example by PoE if other wagons fail), we can no longer trust a cc
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:49 pm
by Zoronos
If someone else wants to be town mayor, they are welcome to the job, but nobody was doing it and we need to achieve a lynch consensus.
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:50 pm
by pinturicchio
@Zoronos I think the consensus now should be waiting the remaining players to see if there's a cc, I agree with ruru in that matter
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:51 pm
by Zoronos
In post 1275, ruru wrote:I'm thinking maybe we shouldn't be pushing lynches until hws/md/tw post
Currently we can just lynch jjh if there's a cc
If one of those three is lined up for a lynch (including for example by PoE if other wagons fail), we can no longer trust a cc
I agree, with the provision that if we don't get a CC we're going to be on the clock to build a consensus, so now is the time to get people talking about reads again in the thread, even if we're not actively building the consensus.
Life is simple if there's a CC. Life is complicated if there isn't. Might as well plan for the hard case and have it go to waste then hope for the easy case then be in trouble if it doesn't happen.
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:59 pm
by Mathdino
What? I'm checked out of the game, I don't have much more to say
I've done my part creating a gamestate where I'm comfortable with both lynches lol
I need flips to really do some hardcore analysis
I'm waiting on you guys
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:00 pm
by ruru
jjh claimed jk
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:00 pm
by Mathdino
Oh fucking lol I misses the claim
I don't believe it because I'm pretty sure that's what scum would do
But I don't cc VOTE: the worst
In post 974, Something_Smart wrote:Pintu's dave vote was bad yeah, but the reasoning looked like he really believed it and so it strikes me more as town-bad than scum-bad.
In post 1255, Something_Smart wrote:I still don't have any scumreads worth anything. But since you're looking for consensus, my preferred lynch would be one of {pintu, HWS, ofrhz}.
This is basically the only thing you've said about me in the thread and now I'm one of your preferred lynches? You have done NOTHING to sort ANYONE in this game and your readlist is awful to say it as nice as I can.
VOTE: Something_Smart
I don't scumread you. I don't want to start a wagon on you. But I don't want to PREVENT a wagon on you, and I'd want to prevent a wagon on the nine people not in that group.
Hence why you are in it.
Which of my townreads do you disagree with and/or want me to explain?
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:05 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 1269, ruru wrote:Why is nsg is some weird null area of your readslist when she can basically only be scum with the dinosaur
Based on experience I don't trust Math to read nsg early on, but I do trust him to read her eventually. And because of this, at least until Math dies, I don't have to (nor do I think I can) read her myself.
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:17 pm
by Mathdino
In post 1282, ruru wrote:How do you post without reading pagetop
I actually only read the first paragraph and was like LET ME TELL YOU WHY I'M NOT POSTING
Then immediately after I saw the second paragraph about ccs and felt stupid
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:22 pm
by ruru
In post 1275, ruru wrote:I'm thinking maybe we shouldn't be pushing lynches until hws/md/tw post
Currently we can just lynch jjh if there's a cc
If one of those three is lined up for a lynch (including for example by PoE if other wagons fail), we can no longer trust a cc
Actually disregard this, having thought about the situation more
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:30 pm
by ruru
In post 1281, Mathdino wrote:Oh fucking lol I misses the claim
I don't believe it because I'm pretty sure that's what scum would do
But I don't cc VOTE: the worst
I think scum would (redacted) so I'm surprised by your conclusion
But anyway if you think jjh is fake claiming doesn't that make tw a worse lynch
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:32 pm
by Mathdino
I'm not lynching an unccd PR
It would be pro town for the jk to fall on their sword here
No tricks, just lynch scum and give cop/vig another shot
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:35 pm
by Mathdino
Meh you're right about redacted
I just mean in a general sense that scum would want to fakeclaim pr
Whats the vc
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:36 pm
by ruru
I meant lynching tw if jjh is jk is better than than lynching tw if jjh is scum
Not that lynching jjh is better than lynching tw (obviously lynching jjh is off the table without a cc, and jk not ccing seems gamethrowy)
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:38 pm
by Mathdino
Well a vig wouldn't cc and a cop might just gambit here. The jk is useless though and should be ccd.
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:01 pm
by Almost50
I believe the VC looks something like:
Sharing is Caring D1 VC #20+1
(expired on 2018-06-06 23:00:00)
However, I strongly recommend everybody to check if heir vote is assigned to the person they are voting indeed. (Working with less than 20% of my brain capacity)
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:02 pm
by Almost50
Oh, and I don't CC either
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:05 pm
by Zoronos
More coloring.
Spoiler: fake VC
Blackstar moved his vote but there wasn't a VC to pick that up, and I'm adding in my intent as a vote while leaving the original in place. So effectively this was the VC state when intent to hammer was claimed. Yes this means Blackstar and I are listed twice, put your thumb over it if it bothers you.
Baring a CC, I'm going to color JJH green for the purposes of this exercise. Obviously this is just my read state, but that's why I'm the one posting it. If you want it to be your read state, you can make pretty colors too.
As much as it can be fun for a mod to banter with the players, I'd recommend that you don't do stuff like this because it's really hard to know for sure whether you're giving anything away.
For the same reason, you shouldn't respond to this, but I just thought I'd give my opinion from my experience modding
In post 1273, pinturicchio wrote:and then there's SS who, even if you think it was an OMGUS vote, I do think that he has done little to nothing, basically I think your point on him was pretty good. The timing was bad 'cause he was pushing me, but I think pushing me is something scum would like to do right now that jjh claimed, so it's a fair read too
Also, I hate to say this, but... have I pushed a single thing all game?
In post 1255, Something_Smart wrote:My reads are basically:
HitAlt, the worst, ruru, BlackStar, and Zoronos are bad lynches because I townread them.
jjh is obviously a bad lynch barring a counterclaim.
Mathdino, davesaz and northsidegal are bad lynches because I haven't seen anything especially bad from them and they should be easier to sort later in the game.
I still don't have any scumreads worth anything. But since you're looking for consensus, my preferred lynch would be one of {pintu, HWS, ofrhz}.
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:19 pm
by the worst
I have not totally read past the jjh claim but this day phase is fucking hilarious
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