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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:40 am
by Tana and Ephraim
CW back with another bad take.
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:40 am
by gameplay506
In post 1271, Lady Eventide wrote: In post 1266, gameplay506 wrote: In post 1264, Lady Eventide wrote:Hmmmm.
Reread is saying that Bitmap is likely town to me. Which says...
VOTE: RCEnigma
I feel that your theory, if actually believed, ought to have led to a vote on Dannfor, not on Senshi. Why do you believe Senshi/Tana scum/scum before considering Dannfor at all?
Mmm can you explain
The theory they put forwards is that the tana/senshi fight was staged/inflamed to distract from the bitmap wagon. If so, then either A: Senshi and/or Tana have excellent acting skills in order to stage that, or B: Dannfor was an instigator from the sidelines. Having reread that section, B seems far more plausible to me.
Well:
In post 1025, RCEnigma wrote:I think a partner,
or sailor
, intentionally used the conflict with Ephraim to divert pressure from your wagon.
So he could've possibly believed scenario A and thus his vote on Sailor does make sense, right?
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:40 am
by Chaos Wind
In post 1273, Bitmap wrote: In post 1269, Chaos Wind wrote: In post 1212, Bitmap wrote:
Why are you defending someone who is scummy? Are you trying to sway/pocket Chaos Wind into voting in your favor? You did this to me the last two times you were scum so I don't like how you're defending Chaos Wind.
This first line is scummy, it feels like it’s trying to discredit pops’s read because it’s going against consensus
-Wind
What consensus? Your name hasn't appeared in awhile till RC called you out.
Is anyone else townreading me though
-Wind
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:41 am
by Chaos Wind
Thanks for the shade but it’s not sunny out here
-Wind
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:41 am
by Sailor Senshi
Have any of them been good?
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:42 am
by Lady Eventide
@Wind: You gonna address my questions?
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:44 am
by Lady Eventide
In post 1276, gameplay506 wrote: In post 1271, Lady Eventide wrote: In post 1266, gameplay506 wrote: In post 1264, Lady Eventide wrote:Hmmmm.
Reread is saying that Bitmap is likely town to me. Which says...
VOTE: RCEnigma
I feel that your theory, if actually believed, ought to have led to a vote on Dannfor, not on Senshi. Why do you believe Senshi/Tana scum/scum before considering Dannfor at all?
Mmm can you explain
The theory they put forwards is that the tana/senshi fight was staged/inflamed to distract from the bitmap wagon. If so, then either A: Senshi and/or Tana have excellent acting skills in order to stage that, or B: Dannfor was an instigator from the sidelines. Having reread that section, B seems far more plausible to me.
Well:
In post 1025, RCEnigma wrote:I think a partner,
or sailor
, intentionally used the conflict with Ephraim to divert pressure from your wagon.
So he could've possibly believed scenario A and thus his vote on Sailor does make sense, right?
He could have, I just don't understand why the hell he'd investigate that one
first
.
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:44 am
by Chaos Wind
Only one I saw was asking whether I was around which I think is pretty easy to answer
-Wind
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:44 am
by gameplay506
In post 1274, Chaos Wind wrote: In post 1272, gameplay506 wrote: In post 1269, Chaos Wind wrote: In post 1212, Bitmap wrote:
Why are you defending someone who is scummy? Are you trying to sway/pocket Chaos Wind into voting in your favor? You did this to me the last two times you were scum so I don't like how you're defending Chaos Wind.
This first line is scummy, it feels like it’s trying to discredit pops’s read because it’s going against consensus
-Wind
That's kinda out of context.
Not really though?
-Wind
Ah, you are right actually
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:45 am
by Bitmap
In post 1277, Chaos Wind wrote: In post 1273, Bitmap wrote: In post 1269, Chaos Wind wrote: In post 1212, Bitmap wrote:
Why are you defending someone who is scummy? Are you trying to sway/pocket Chaos Wind into voting in your favor? You did this to me the last two times you were scum so I don't like how you're defending Chaos Wind.
This first line is scummy, it feels like it’s trying to discredit pops’s read because it’s going against consensus
-Wind
What consensus? Your name hasn't appeared in awhile till RC called you out.
Is anyone else townreading me though
-Wind
I dunno. You answer me that. You're the one that's saying there's a consensus.
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:45 am
by Lady Eventide
In post 1282, Chaos Wind wrote:
Only one I saw was asking whether I was around which I think is pretty easy to answer
-Wind
Give me your read of me in full. Why am I town?
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:46 am
by Chaos Wind
In post 1284, Bitmap wrote: In post 1277, Chaos Wind wrote: In post 1273, Bitmap wrote: In post 1269, Chaos Wind wrote: In post 1212, Bitmap wrote:
Why are you defending someone who is scummy? Are you trying to sway/pocket Chaos Wind into voting in your favor? You did this to me the last two times you were scum so I don't like how you're defending Chaos Wind.
This first line is scummy, it feels like it’s trying to discredit pops’s read because it’s going against consensus
-Wind
What consensus? Your name hasn't appeared in awhile till RC called you out.
Is anyone else townreading me though
-Wind
I dunno. You answer me that. You're the one that's saying there's a consensus.
Well clearly I think the answer is no
-Wind
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:46 am
by gameplay506
I see, I see
And since you asked me about my read on RCE and Dann do you think they are buddies or just that RCE was trying to ml Sailor?
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:47 am
by Bitmap
Also why is CW answering questions not directed at him?
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:47 am
by Chaos Wind
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:48 am
by Sailor Senshi
In post 1237, Lady Eventide wrote: In post 1223, Bitmap wrote: In post 1216, popsofctown wrote:I actually wasn't trying to earn your vote. I don't think I ever fake a townread on a player when I play scum. I try to think about what behaviors town!pops would townread or scumread and mimick that as closely as I can. I've come to realize that it results in bussing my partners too often, so I've been adjusting the scum side of that, but I haven't adjusted the town side of that very much.
I said I townread you because I thought town!pops would have townread you. I said I scumread your day 2 play because I thought town!pops would probably scumread your day 2 play. I only lied about nullreading my partner GoldenRobster and then when things started to narrow I had to fake scumreads on everyone but me of course.
I found it pretty surprising that RC moved his vote from LE onto CW after using pretty strong wording for how scummy he thinks I am, since that represents a heavy gap in judgment when I townread that slot. So I was curious to dig into why. He could convince me wrong. I'm not sure whether I'm persuaded yet but now I at least understand his perspective better.
Ok, I see somewhat. It's just that your play is close to what I see from scum!pops.
@LE: Why do you want to lynch the N1 kill bait? Also, pretty sure that slot is town based on Sakura's postings.
... because the scum are not going to just obligingly kill the people I want them to? T&E surviving the night tells me little to nothing about their alignment, because I know myself to be town and therefore scum might keep them alive just to ML me easier if I'm not dunked today.
They have had some towny moments but I also really do not like their pivots here, and I'm of the opinion that there's at least one scum in Sailor Senshi/Danforr/T&E based on their flareup. Senshi's been eliminated from my PoE by their defenses, so it's Dannfor and/or T&E. T&E are here to get reactions from so my pressure ought to be directed towards them and not Danforr rn.
Also looks like I need to reread Chaos Wind...
#188 seems stilted and over-formal. I don't like this entrance.
#715 slank excuse.
#971 was really really welcome given that everyone else was scumreading me at this time, but I feel like chemist ought to have... actually provided, like,
reasons
here. That they're right about me but give an incoherent reason why feels like an attempt to claim credit for being right when I flip. That they don't actually defend me says that they might actually want me to flip anyway.
Continues to defend me in #975 but continues to fail to make the meta argument I'd expect. Hmmm.
#982 is accurate and good but I still have concerns.
@Chaos Wind are you around?
Pedit @Tana:
"potentially being a less towny town than my SO who's barely ever played mafia before stings my pride, esp. as I've been having a bad run of getting lynched early as town recently."
I added this to my wall because it was the truth and a thought I was having? I don't like getting lynched D1 and I feel like I ought to be playing better than this? Seems like a weird question but whatever.
If you’re actually town here, you have the worst reads ever. *smdh*
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:49 am
by Bitmap
In post 1269, Chaos Wind wrote: In post 1212, Bitmap wrote:
Why are you defending someone who is scummy? Are you trying to sway/pocket Chaos Wind into voting in your favor? You did this to me the last two times you were scum so I don't like how you're defending Chaos Wind.
This first line is scummy, it feels like it’s trying to discredit pops’s read because it’s going against consensus
-Wind
Is your name popsofctown?
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:50 am
by Sailor Senshi
In post 1240, Tana and Ephraim wrote:
I mean, you know that's what WILL happen. Even when a game has like a million bodyguards no one protects you N1 apparently, unless that bodyguard happens to be me.
-Tana
That’s exactly what happened in Arch, even RC tribute hydra didn’t protect us. :/
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:50 am
by Tana and Ephraim
lol at us not being protected.
even if only 2/4 of our scumreads were correct.
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:50 am
by Chaos Wind
In post 1291, Bitmap wrote:
In post 1269, Chaos Wind wrote: In post 1212, Bitmap wrote:
Why are you defending someone who is scummy? Are you trying to sway/pocket Chaos Wind into voting in your favor? You did this to me the last two times you were scum so I don't like how you're defending Chaos Wind.
This first line is scummy, it feels like it’s trying to discredit pops’s read because it’s going against consensus
-Wind
Is your name popsofctown?
That wasn’t an answer to your question, that was calling your question scummy
-Wind
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:51 am
by Tana and Ephraim
Hi, my name is Popsofctown. Ask me anything!
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:53 am
by Bitmap
In post 1294, Chaos Wind wrote:
That wasn’t an answer to your question, that was calling your question scummy
-Wind
How is it scummy? Scum has a tendency to cover for scummy town in order to sway votes towards their side.
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:54 am
by Chaos Wind
In post 1296, Bitmap wrote: In post 1294, Chaos Wind wrote:
That wasn’t an answer to your question, that was calling your question scummy
-Wind
How is it scummy? Scum has a tendency to cover for scummy town in order to sway votes towards their side.
You’re projecting your scum read on me onto pops’s read to push them
-Wind
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:55 am
by Lady Eventide
In post 1287, gameplay506 wrote:
I see, I see
And since you asked me about my read on RCE and Dann do you think they are buddies or just that RCE was trying to ml Sailor?
I think it's possible that RCE was literally talking about a strategy he used with Dannfor and pinning it on Senshi, yeah. His argument also comes with a built in excuse to back off: lynch bitmap or senshi, they flip green, whoops better reevaluate everything!
I don't like RCE's pushes on Sailor or Bitmap at all. Especially as they chose to push Sailor for their association with Bitmap rather than, y'know, Bitmap.
Right now I'm thinking there's at least one scum in Dann/RCE, and I very much want to hear everyone's reads on this.
@Senshi: I'm doing ny best, ok? You got any advice for me to improve, or are you just going to snark from the sidelines?
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:55 am
by Sailor Senshi