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Also SS could have not died because... he is scum? (and only possible with gobbley)

I think if we lynch scum today (eve/mastina) , the vig should not shoot so we have more lynches to POE

In post 1273, alimdia wrote:

In post 1260, Sujimichi wrote:I would like for Wake to confirm his actions for tonight, and for us to confirm what we should do. Our options are to lynch Eve given the claim if suspicions there remain, and then I can use my vigilante power on mastina. Our other option is we can lynch mastina and then hope that Eve is not actually bulletproof. I am also open to shooting alimdia, but I will need to confirm with the moderator how Leveling actions work given night action resolution. I will do that now.

Why did you have to say that out loud

What is the harm in saying this for pubic view when we are trying to coordinate actions?

alimdia, how did you know your actions were roleblocked during Night 1?

In post 1276, alimdia wrote:I think if we lynch scum today (eve/mastina) , the vig should not shoot so we have more lynches to POE

We are currently with an even numbers of players alive. I believe that Something_Smart mentioned this. If I use my role to kill tonight, it does not deprive us of a lynch. Did you miss this?

In post 1272, gobbledygook wrote:It’s pretty obvious that SS is not bulletproof.

How is this obvious?

In post 1277, Sujimichi wrote:

In post 1273, alimdia wrote:

In post 1260, Sujimichi wrote:I would like for Wake to confirm his actions for tonight, and for us to confirm what we should do. Our options are to lynch Eve given the claim if suspicions there remain, and then I can use my vigilante power on mastina. Our other option is we can lynch mastina and then hope that Eve is not actually bulletproof. I am also open to shooting alimdia, but I will need to confirm with the moderator how Leveling actions work given night action resolution. I will do that now.

Why did you have to say that out loud

What is the harm in saying this for pubic view when we are trying to coordinate actions?

I was actually supposed to reply to the post where gobbly said SS is not bulletproof. I must have forgotten that I Q+'ed that post.

In post 1278, Sujimichi wrote:alimdia, how did you know your actions were roleblocked during Night 1?

From deduction and asking the mod

In post 1279, Sujimichi wrote:

In post 1276, alimdia wrote:I think if we lynch scum today (eve/mastina) , the vig should not shoot so we have more lynches to POE

We are currently with an even numbers of players alive. I believe that Something_Smart mentioned this. If I use my role to kill tonight, it does not deprive us of a lynch. Did you miss this?

Even players alive but with lots of protective roles claimed, which means we could potentially gain another lynch if some success is had with protective roles.

^Only if scum is lynched today

In post 1280, Sujimichi wrote:

In post 1272, gobbledygook wrote:It’s pretty obvious that SS is not bulletproof.

How is this obvious?

SS’s role is too op to be bulletproof AND a joat with all those abilities. Basic setup design

In post 1276, alimdia wrote:I think if we lynch scum today (eve/mastina) , the vig should not shoot so we have more lynches to POE

We mislynch today, we go to 4-2 tomorrow and have to no lynch if Vig doesn’t kill
We mislynch today, we go to 3-2 tomorrow if vig shoots wrong

We gain nothing by not shooting.

Mastina, why are you hypothesizing a goon when everyone has claimed an ability, except you? Are you the goon?

In post 1283, gobbledygook wrote:SS’s role is too op to be bulletproof AND a joat with all those abilities. Basic setup design

You don't know what my modifiers are, nor do you know what power the scum has. I don't see how you could make this judgement...

In post 1284, gobbledygook wrote:

In post 1276, alimdia wrote:I think if we lynch scum today (eve/mastina) , the vig should not shoot so we have more lynches to POE

We mislynch today, we go to 4-2 tomorrow and have to no lynch if Vig doesn’t kill
We mislynch today, we go to 3-2 tomorrow if vig shoots wrong

We gain nothing by not shooting.

I said mislynch = shot

If we get the correct lynch, don't shoot because

We could be 5-1 without a kill or 4-1 with a kill.
or...
We could be 6-1 without a kill if a protective works or 5-1 with a kill and protective works (which is bad)

In post 1281, alimdia wrote:From deduction and asking the mod

I do not believe that the moderator would have told you that you were roleblocked upon being queried.

In regard to the discussion on me shooting or not; I will be shooting regardless of the lynch today.

Alimidia needs to claim.

In post 1274, alimdia wrote:But I still agree that theres too much protective/non dying shit

So why are you voting me instead of one of them (Wake/Eve).

In post 1285, gobbledygook wrote:Mastina, why are you hypothesizing a goon when everyone has claimed an ability, except you? Are you the goon?

I didn't.

I used a goon for the hypothetical Normal setup but you'll also note I listed three VTs there, because role madness in a Normal isn't allowed. You could flip your question around and ask why I am hypothesizing three VTs when I am the only one who has claimed not to have an ability, and the answer would be the same.

I dumbed down the setup from this game to the pertinent parts--the roles we have flipped, and the roles relevant to the point I was making. That point being, no amount of scum power, none, would make it not be townsided as fuck, if you assume all claims to be true. Thus...at least one claim must not be.

In post 1286, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 1283, gobbledygook wrote:SS’s role is too op to be bulletproof AND a joat with all those abilities. Basic setup design

You don't know what my modifiers are, nor do you know what power the scum has. I don't see how you could make this judgement...

: I am feeling awfully ignored here. You're clearly reading the game thread and yet every time I have asked you for your thoughts on the mechanical impossibility of Eve/Wake being town, you just...

...Say absolutely nothing.

In post 1288, Sujimichi wrote:

In post 1281, alimdia wrote:From deduction and asking the mod

I do not believe that the moderator would have told you that you were roleblocked upon being queried.

In regard to the discussion on me shooting or not; I will be shooting regardless of the lynch today.

I asked them what my result meant and from their response I deduced the great possibility was that I got roleblocked. Or the person I targetted was Aestic or whatever its called
Seeing Xtoxm's flip and how Aero thought I was scum on N1 kinda ... proves it.

In post 1290, gobbledygook wrote:VOTE: Alimidia

You can't lynch me today if you don't want to throw so I feel 0 pressure from this vote

In post 1291, mastina wrote:

In post 1274, alimdia wrote:But I still agree that theres too much protective/non dying shit

So why are you voting me instead of one of them (Wake/Eve).

I'm keen to do Eve tbh, just cos of her claim

In post 1289, gobbledygook wrote:Alimidia needs to claim.

No, I don't. Scum can decide if they would rather get rid of a potentially confirmed person or be fearful of my lvl 5 powers the next night.

In post 1292, mastina wrote:

Something_Smart

: I am feeling awfully ignored here. You're clearly reading the game thread and yet every time I have asked you for your thoughts on the mechanical impossibility of Eve/Wake being town, you just...

...Say absolutely nothing.

Sorry. Was trying to decide whether it was worth continuing to hide. I'm not bulletproof. As a result, I don't think Eve's claim is as outlandish as you suggested.

A lot of kill-stopping power isn't necessarily impossible, especially if most of it is gated.

Alimdia, the chance that you die to scum tonight is 0%.

I dont like the possibility of Eve not getting vigged.