White Flag - TM2020

[Dunnstral]

Dannflor, the entire formerfish wagon right now is lurky people who started coasting around end of day, aside from you

Look at bbmolla. Look at Espeonage. Look at Dong getting ready.

[Dunnstral]

Tin foil hat time.

There are two players that have been on two important counter wagon movements today. One is on someone who if town, fits a very strong archetype for white knighting, someone argumentative with a divisive personality and convenient but not necessary valid counterpoint to rally around.

Then, as consolidation happens at end of day with part of it around an easy lurk Lynch and the other on another generally scum lent slot, they launch a second co-ordinated counter wagon movement, one doing with with a tone that felt to me frantic.

I accuse Dunnstral in the Dannflor with the Formerfish. I'd like to check the envelope please.

Is no one else getting klaxons going off in all directions from Dunn's reaction to the FF momentum?

Because that is ringing so clear at me right now.

Vote: Dunn

Vote: FF

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I still think FF is a good lynch, the AtE didn’t have the apparent affect on me it did on you all

I’m fine with a NSG lynch but I don’t think she’s scummier than FF, I just think her fucking logic sucks

Don’t like Gobble wagon.

This is a mistake - NSG is scumclaiming right now

Oh no she might flee tonight!

Oh wait

[Donempire]

Im not posturing. You think we're done? I wanted to use the some time left over to make up for my activity.

[Dannflor]

yeah the nsg wagon looks a lot better

[Dannflor]

I mean we have 24 hours, time to start is now

[Dunnstral]

Im not posturing. You think we're done? I wanted to use the some time left over to make up for my activity.

No I'm Dunn

[Dunnstral]

What does the middle part mean though, really?

[Dannflor]

I've been projecting a lot more confident about FF than I actually am

that VC is not what I was expecting tbh

[Espeonage]

Dann can you pick playing either townie or scummy because I feel like you are town most of the time and then you make posts 1278 and I go, is this guy really going to decide the day's Lynch based pre flip associatives?

You made really logically sound arguments for FF over NSG and then flip flop around. I am going to go benefit of the doubt and say that you are just flip-flopping because of the high thread presence and overthinking, but really man, have conviction in some direction.

[Espeonage]

Actually the vc makes sense because one vote switch provides a two vote momentum swing not one.

[Espeonage]

One person swaps and hey, the other wagon is winning. And then another does and they aren't ever equal until the people not picking a side get with the program and pick.

[Espeonage]

I feel like 1275 and 1276 directly contradict each other. For both myself and BB.

[Espeonage]

Ok I think I can make my breakdown clear.

NSG flips town. We get absolutely nothing from it.
NSG flips scum. Great.
FF flips scum, great but also we have a bunch of shit to go on from that because they were actually engaged in discourse.
FF flips town, we can actually examine what this means for gamestate based on that fucking discourse.

Both situation are better for flipping FF.

[Dannflor]

yeah basically that ^

I think there's almost always 1 scum between NSG and FF and I've felt that way since NSG came in and voted FF.

I don't want to lynch NSG for what are mostly NAI things.

I still think FF is scummy. And I don't think people should be swayed by AtE that comes from a place that is NAI. FF would be frustrated here as either alignment I can guarantee that.

[Donempire]

Why didn't Dong vote Former there

Not a logical reason yes but i didnt check the vc or the deadline, i just wanted to get in whatevee i had in mind and go to bed

Not defending myself but i dont want anyone to get the wrong ideas either.

[Dannflor]

Also I respect Dunn's reads and still think he's town

but I think it's telling that he can't really town case FF

it's a gut read and I think it's likely he is *just wrong* here

[Dannflor]

Why didn't Dong vote Former there

Not a logical reason yes but i didnt check the vc or the deadline, i just wanted to get in whatevee i had in mind and go to bed

Not defending myself but i dont want anyone to get the wrong ideas either.

you can vote him now

[Dannflor]

I have four town players in this slot who all individually scum read FF

[Donempire]

Sorry FF if you're town, but I'd rather take NSG later into the game than you as it stands.

I'd hang him just for this comment.

Thanks for letting me know that a fucking empty space is better than having me around Dann.

With all due respect, i think its more than that.

What you're doing at this point is pretty much whataboutism and is bordering on desperation to get ANYONE lynched except yourself. No one said we cant lynch you today and nsg tomorrowz which is my preferred gamestate as of now.
You havent given reasons for yourself or against nsg, so all of your posts help no one. Thats the bigger reason.

[Donempire]

Thanks cap.
VOTE: Formerfish

[Donempire]

Nsg/cheeky/maybe hop

[Dannflor]

not cheeky

[Dannflor]

I think I'm wrong somewhere in my town reads though and it's probably in the [hop, kittymo, cephrir] grouping

[Donempire]

Thats where my mind is at. I dont think i will be considering anyone else to lynch tomorrow but i do want to make a case on esp come tomorrow.

[Donempire]

Im starting to turn on ceph and i tr kitty. I didnt like hops recent posting however.