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Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:27 pm
by clidd
In post 1271, Hectic wrote: In post 1269, Ame wrote:Wait a second I just noticed a contradiction:
In post 1187, dsjstr wrote:You had literally not included me on any of your scum reads and the one time you said that it was me I changed your mind because you thought one of my comments was funny. You are the one being inconsistent.
dsj if you knew I was scumreading you before
why did you think neighbors were confirmed town to each other
? Surely you would have picked up that it wasn't the case from the way I was treating you?
Lul, I respect how cocky you are if you're scum. Unsure if I should be townreading or scumreading how you keep shifting attention/focus.
Coukd you explain why AaronFF was your third strongest scumread start of day and now seems to be your strongest townread?
-->
Hectic
, you gave me an indication of emotional reaction
town
in that word.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:28 pm
by Ame
I have considered it. If I thought it was 100% I wouldn't have been looking in other directions today. If dsj can explain the contradiction above, you're the rational choice today.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:30 pm
by Ame
Is Aaron due for a prod?
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:31 pm
by clidd
Still .. Ame being
scum
still doesn't get into my head. Aaron being AFK in this game in the last pages would agree with my theory of him being
scum
.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:33 pm
by clidd
But I had the confirmation that Hectic is
town
by the slip in the word he gave. It was a demonstration of spirits '' rising '', possibly linked to his
town
energy of solving the Ame case. Considering that he has Karnage's vote of support, he would not need to show anxiety here.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:35 pm
by clidd
So the impasse is basically '' Aaron
scum
in my PoE '' vs ''
T
v
S
''.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:36 pm
by Ame
@Clidd read Aaron's post just before Insomnia's lynch. They clearly show that he was ignorant of Insomnia's alignment. There was no backtracking in his read at all. He really thought Insomnia would flip town.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:37 pm
by Hectic
Sure, I'll take it.
Ame, so, reasoning for Aaron 3rd scum to what sounds like locktown? I know you've provided reasons but that's all day 1 stuff. What triggered you to reevaluate/see it in a different light?
Reason I'm asking is because I can see scum motivation in you TRing and trying to pocket Aaron since he earlier expressed he thinks everyone on the Somni wagon is town.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:39 pm
by Ame
In post 1008, AaronFrost wrote:I still think insomnia is town honestly. I don't think scum gets that deathtunneled on a slot he knows to be town. I have my reservations about whether the mason claim could be faked, but that feels like a big risk to take even in a closed setup.
Karnage feels like a policy lynch, we'd get next to no info even if it flipped scum but if we need to compromise somewhere then I'll compromise there.
I'll need to review Hectic too because he's a big question mark for me. I feel like I can read him decently well most of the time but I don't have a solid read on him here.
In post 1009, AaronFrost wrote:If both masons live to see lylo then I'll be really concerned about the claim but for now there's no reason not to believe it
Literally no reason to post these as Insomnia's partner when Insomnia was about to be lynched
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:40 pm
by clidd
Hum. Im thinking.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:41 pm
by Ame
In post 1282, Hectic wrote:Sure, I'll take it.
Ame, so, reasoning for Aaron 3rd scum to what sounds like locktown? I know you've provided reasons but that's all day 1 stuff. What triggered you to reevaluate/see it in a different light?
Reason I'm asking is because I can see scum motivation in you TRing and trying to pocket Aaron since he earlier expressed he thinks everyone on the Somni wagon is town.
There were discrepancies that I wanted addressed from you, Aaron, and dsj. Aaron answered all of my questions quickly and to my satisfaction and they reaffirmed what I had felt D1. Yours were also sufficient but NAI. dsk took forever to actually respond
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:45 pm
by Hectic
I'm tired; disenaging for now. Gonna reevaluate Ame/Karnage again tomorrow and try and figure out if Ame is tunneling town or opportunistic scum.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:46 pm
by dsjstr
In post 1269, Ame wrote:Wait a second I just noticed a contradiction:
In post 1187, dsjstr wrote:You had literally not included me on any of your scum reads and the one time you said that it was me I changed your mind because you thought one of my comments was funny. You are the one being inconsistent.
dsj if you knew I was scumreading you before
why did you think neighbors were confirmed town to each other
? Surely you would have picked up that it wasn't the case from the way I was treating you?
At the time I thought you were trying to playoff that we are not actually neighbors. I believe it came after the comment I made that no one had actually claimed neighbors.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:47 pm
by Ame
darnnit I was really hoping that was a slip there
Hectic > Clidd
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:49 pm
by Ame
im confident on dsj now
let's lynch hectic
/exit insomnia-emulator.exe
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:52 pm
by dsjstr
I would like to point out that Ame is at L-1
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:53 pm
by dsjstr
After I unvoted them I placed another vote on them.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:53 pm
by clidd
Considering that this is a
TvS
, so far, I've detected a
town
reaction from Hectic, so I'm not sure how to handle it if Ame is
scum
.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:55 pm
by clidd
However, this oscillation of choices is something strange, coming from Ame. I would associate it with a
town
behavior if she were inexperienced (which is definitely not the case).
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:57 pm
by Ame
What does experience have to do with it? Your reads have changed just as frequently if not more.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:09 pm
by AaronFrost
Hi I'm still here. Doing a reread/analysis now. Stay tuned
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:10 pm
by clidd
Oscillation of choices is a characteristic of insecurity, present in newbie players, but not so normal in more experienced players.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:10 pm
by clidd
My situation is totally different from yours.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:12 pm
by clidd
Considering that scum, for me, is Aaron, but everyone has different ideas, and suddenly, a conflict arises between you and Hectic, evidencing a TVS because neither of you questioned Karnage's authenticity in raising that vote, I have a lot of conflicts to deal with.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:13 pm
by clidd
I don't know how my head hasn't exploded yet with these recent events.