In post 1157, Flea The Magician wrote:OK so lets say there is jester potential... and I actually get serious for a moment [eugh i'm going to need to lie down after this now ]
TGP's defense of Gypyx means their wincon could be:
- Jester who is linked to gypyx, meaning either
- - TGP needs to be lynched first
- - TGP just needs to be lynched before gypyx
- - TGP just needs to be lynched.
The wincon doesn't seem to be two ways from what I recall seeing of gypyx.
If gypyx is a jester, they're playing a long game imo.
The defence could be some weird enabler thing or other mechanic? Going off what potential weird ass stuff I can come up with...
- You win if PlayerX survives D1 and you die [modified jester?]
- PlayerX gains Y ability if you die [I suspect this would've been crumbed]
- Lynch redirection - If you're lynched or killed at all, PlayerX dies instead. [Some weird reflex auto bodyguard mechanic]
and I'm sure others can come up with other weird and wonderful stuff...
The problem for me is I know nothing of the Silent Star games so i don't know what mechanics Hectic has used to mess with his players previously. Because of that my best assumption at this point is to treat this as a "standard" game with a weird day mechanic until we have more information.
If people are aware of the mechanics used then we can speculate on stuff, but like hell am I digging through this again to find mech talk I still got isos to do tbh
Also I've done it in both completed games where I've said I'm going to do something, and then give no indication of having actually done it.
Jessie a 3rd party weird proxy survivor? Has to have TGP survive o.o
... 3rd party survivor chain? (⊙_◎) 13 players... 3 or 4 as the opposed group...
Jessie > TGP > Gypyx > ?
As for jessie, I agree that she's tough to read. Wrt skitter/hopkirk, I think she meant that skitter is likely town, but if she's scum she's likely a hopkirk partner. 712 and 722 are where she talks about her gypyx townread. That makes me think, 934 seems like a towny post since she's proud of her gypyx read.
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:07 am
by Flea The Magician
Wow 17 posts...
OK shouldn't take that long.
Spoiler: Gypyx
Another null read slot I wanted to build on... Lets see how far I go... Wonder if I can mix another song in here somewhere.... mwahahahhahaah
In post 400, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:"Like imo it's the opposite, if scum did pregame choices, it's more likely that jessie is scum"
What does this quote mean Gypyx?
Basically, i found that scum tends to try to say stuff that they know is true when they can, so if scum did in fact made choices pregame, i lean strongly towards scum!jessie
I knew someone else like Jessie as scum! couldn't remember who, and now I know why...
In post 1277, Infinity 324 wrote:As for jessie, I agree that she's tough to read. Wrt skitter/hopkirk, I think she meant that skitter is likely town, but if she's scum she's likely a hopkirk partner. 712 and 722 are where she talks about her gypyx townread. That makes me think, 934 seems like a towny post since she's proud of her gypyx read.
712 doesn't really say much about her read, just that she's curious in why Pookybear might think Gypyx isn't town, and 722 feels more like a passing comment hinting at an evaluation to me :/
934 still feels weird and out of place for me :/
Maybe I'm too scatterbrained. Amma look elsewhere... where's my todo list gone...
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:13 am
by Flea The Magician
In post 699, Flea The Magician wrote:I need to ISO some people I think, I need to try and confirm some of my reads.
TGP for one
, infinity,
gypx
, and
trq
. Will come on a less pain day though
That leaves you Infinity <3 you scared?
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:14 am
by Flea The Magician
123 posts... you can wait while tomorrow lol
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:16 am
by Infinity 324
I get that 934 seemed out of place, looks like jessie misinterpreted your post, but I think the feeling of “you dismissed my read that I felt strongly about” is a genuine emotion that scum wouldn’t think to fake.
PEdit: I’m not nervous cause I know it will be fun to read!
Ok so if i get what happening around me right, TGP expresses a townread on me (haven't read his points yet) and it's apparently bad reasons so he gets sus from that? Why does that make him scum tho?
More reading will happen tommorow, i'm just trying to get back in the game
In post 1224, Infinity 324 wrote:Skitter’s posts make my stomach wriggle and squirm and do somersaults. From past experience, this correlates with a high likelihood that she is a member of the mafia.
i have no idea what this means!
and as far as i know you don't *have* any prior experience with me being a member of the mafia
In post 1226, TheGoldenParadox wrote:hm. still 1000% confident that gypyx is town, but losing confidence in dunnscum. i was going to locktown jessie and then i saw the whole jester thing and now i'm just confused. i'm
vt
, so i have no idea what she's trying to do there.
hello i take issue with your vote and find your progression off of dunn to be rather scummy
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:27 pm
by skitter30
In post 1236, Gloria Cleary wrote:How convenient. What happened to your confident Dunn scumread, now you’re suddenly convinced on Skitter? Do you really have a scumread on her because it sounds like a really lazy vote. I really want to vote TGP now. These recent posts of theirs are pinging my scumdar off the freaking charts. This reads like they’re throwing their vote where ever they see consensus.
this ^
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:29 pm
by skitter30
In post 1254, Morning Tweet wrote:I think this could be biiiig. what makes you say this? I am really sorry if you already said and i just haven't read it
i didn't say it - i am unable to say it at this time because of [redacted]
In post 1224, Infinity 324 wrote:Skitter’s posts make my stomach wriggle and squirm and do somersaults. From past experience, this correlates with a high likelihood that she is a member of the mafia.
i have no idea what this means!
and as far as i know you don't *have* any prior experience with me being a member of the mafia
Not you, but in general when I get that feeling about someone’s posts it means they’re scum.
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:38 pm
by skitter30
i'm townreading the most: mt, jessie, flea, infinity
next tier town reads: ydrasse, pooky, gloria (tbf gloria is like somewhere in between this tier and the tier above it)
null: dunn, gypyx
scumlean: hopkirk, isis
scum: tgp
assorted thoughts on assorted players:
tgp's vote on me, coupled with the loss of their dunn scumread, is p gross and survivalistic imo. their content is not good, and they are reacting to this wagon on them in a way that i think is incongruent with how town!them would
gypyx ... does anyone have experience with him? cuz he's basically prodging and i wanna know if that's ai for him or not
flea is a shining beacon of wholesomeness and towniness
infinity is just obvtown
i think jessie's freakout wrt the jester thing is incredibly unlikely to come from scum, even if i disagree with her thought process
isis i still think her push on me is kinda fake
pedit fair enough but that's not something i can easily argue with u abt so i'm just gonna shrug and accept that you're not reading me right
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:42 pm
by Infinity 324
Forgot to ask @MT, skitter why is scum less likely to freak out about a jester?
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:45 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I think it's possible that TGP is a jester but honestly I don't think we would lose if we elim'd a jester and there's no incentive for a jester to help us anyway so I don't see why we wouldn't elim him in case there's no jester and he's just scum here.
Playing around a possible Jester is just a pain in the butt.
VOTE: TGP
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:47 pm
by skitter30
to reword: it's not the freakout about the jester itself, so much as how she went about it - it was very clearly a real thought that entered her head that she was very concerned about and i ... just don't see scum reacting that way to that thought
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:49 pm
by skitter30
yeah i don't want to play around a jester that may or may not exist anyways ...
i don't think it's super likely, but if we're wrong and *they are a jester* and *voting him out loses the game* i'm just gonna chalk the loss up to 'unknowable setup design' over playing around the possibility that voting out someone i think is scum is gonna make me lose
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:51 pm
by Infinity 324
In post 1294, skitter30 wrote:i ... just don't see scum reacting that way to that thought
I’m not sure why scum and town would have different motivations wrt the jester thing?
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:52 pm
by skitter30
i don't know how to explain it better. it didn't look like it came from scum to me
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:52 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
One line of thought is that scum are more likely than town to read play as "jester-ish" because they know who their team-members are and someone who is acting abnormally scummish is more evident to a scum player than say a town player as a result of this.
I maintain town-lean on Jessie due to other things though I have never played with her as scum before.
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I still got isos to do tbh
