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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:46 pm
by LoneMarkhor
In post 1268, Rockhopper wrote:VOTE: Chumbo
Nothing has made me suspicious of Chumbo so far.Are you trying to get him miseliminated?
Most probable scum team is {BM,Rock} imo.

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:06 pm
by ben dover123
In post 1273, LoneMarkhor wrote:Where Lavar makes him suspicious are those posts where both PRs claimed.He was trolling(lurking? or whatever).Also I think Battlemage could be sacrificing himself to keep a distance from Lavar.Or it could be Rock.
That's fair. The way BM is talking doesn't make any interactions really obvious, so we are sort of clueless going into D3.
LoneMarkhor wrote:Where Lavar makes him suspicious are those posts where both PRs claimed.He was trolling(lurking? or whatever).Also I think Battlemage could be sacrificing himself to keep a distance from Lavar.Or it could be Rock.
Both of these possibilities hold value, however Lavar has definitely been more towny.
LoneMarkhor wrote:
In post 1268, Rockhopper wrote:VOTE: Chumbo
Nothing has made me suspicious of Chumbo so far.Are you trying to get him miseliminated?
Most probable scum team is {BM,Rock} imo.
Yeah, I think so too.

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:30 pm
by ben dover123
In post 1274, LoneMarkhor wrote:Hey Ben,should we hammer BM Now?
Just chill out for now. I want to hear more from {Lavar, Chumbo, Rock}.

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:22 pm
by Chumbo
@ben: what is the significance of BM not unvoting clidd? I don't get that part.

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:19 pm
by Chumbo
But yeah, BM hammering like that screams scum to me. He said nothing about his reads or anything.
Then the conversation today makes it obvious. Saying Lone and Lunar has partner equity, when he just hammered lunar. Him saying we should massclaim (what would be the point). I don't think he's bothered catching up.

I think it's likely that rockhopper is his partner.
Lavar is my second choice, based on BM's vote on him.
clidd is very likely actually a doc, but it's not a certainty and I don't get why BM not removing his vote is significant. I'm pretty sure trendall was the only other person on clidd's wagon at the time and no one else was expressing a desire to eliminate clidd d1 after the claim. Ben voted him for a very short period but I think he was just losing his mind at the time.

Ben and Lone are very town.

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:26 am
by Battle Mage
In post 1276, ben dover123 wrote:
In post 1273, LoneMarkhor wrote:Where Lavar makes him suspicious are those posts where both PRs claimed.He was trolling(lurking? or whatever).Also I think Battlemage could be sacrificing himself to keep a distance from Lavar.Or it could be Rock.
That's fair. The way BM is talking doesn't make any interactions really obvious, so we are sort of clueless going into D3.
I've interacted lots today, especially with you and Dr Clidd! I don't think you should read too much into anything I say though - just do your own solves. :cop:

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:49 am
by clidd
In post 1268, Rockhopper wrote:VOTE: Chumbo
Rock, you are on more than one player's PoE as scum after BM and it's important that you share what you are thinking.

The current scenario points to your elimination after the red flip of BM, so you need to make a move.

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:07 am
by clidd
In post 1273, LoneMarkhor wrote:Where Lavar makes him suspicious are those posts where both PRs claimed.He was trolling(lurking? or whatever).Also I think Battlemage could be sacrificing himself to keep a distance from Lavar.Or it could be Rock.
There were some moments that Lavar commented on the topic that wouldn't make much sense to Scum!Lavar. BM, for example, spent a lot of time avoiding the game, so I don't think his partner would have enough incentive to try to control the pace of game, since me, Ben and Trendal were monopolizing attention.

On the other hand, Lavar's progression during the middle of D1 so far is sparse, since the interactions he had on the topic were short and not very descriptive in the sense that he conveyed what kind of thoughts he was having about the game. It is very easy for him to be adept at coasting and let us focus more on Rock than necessarily on him.

So I imagine that there is a moderate chance of he being scum (which is why he should try to post more), although Rock has more scummy indexes individually.

Regarding the hammer, my guess is that it was to deny a possible reversal in the main wagon (Lunar), since we were trying to debate some other slots in parallel. But it is difficult to know, unless we can read BM's mind.

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:12 am
by clidd
In post 1279, Chumbo wrote:But yeah, BM hammering like that screams scum to me. He said nothing about his reads or anything.
Then the conversation today makes it obvious. Saying Lone and Lunar has partner equity, when he just hammered lunar. Him saying we should massclaim (what would be the point). I don't think he's bothered catching up.

I think it's likely that rockhopper is his partner.
Lavar is my second choice, based on BM's vote on him.
clidd is very likely actually a doc, but it's not a certainty and I don't get why BM not removing his vote is significant. I'm pretty sure trendall was the only other person on clidd's wagon at the time and no one else was expressing a desire to eliminate clidd d1 after the claim. Ben voted him for a very short period but I think he was just losing his mind at the time.

Ben and Lone are very town.
I think I understand how you are seeing the game.

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:15 am
by clidd
Yeah, Chumbo is very likely town.

It's basically (BM + Rock) or (BM + Lava) at this point.

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:16 am
by clidd
Assuming we are all correct on Lone, right?

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:37 am
by Battle Mage
In post 1285, clidd wrote:Assuming we are all correct on Lone, right?
you gotta be clidding me!

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:42 am
by clidd
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:45 am
by clidd
I'm kind of confused about your partner, ngl.

Lavar being afk (I guess?) and Rock refusing to post reasons is not helping.

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:04 am
by Rockhopper
In post 1269, ben dover123 wrote:
In post 1268, Rockhopper wrote:VOTE: Chumbo
Why Chumbo still?
I missed a few pages, nevermind

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:08 am
by Rockhopper
VOTE: Battle Mage

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:13 am
by Rockhopper
In post 1279, Chumbo wrote:But yeah, BM hammering like that screams scum to me. He said nothing about his reads or anything.
Then the conversation today makes it obvious. Saying Lone and Lunar has partner equity, when he just hammered lunar. Him saying we should massclaim (what would be the point). I don't think he's bothered catching up.

I think it's likely that rockhopper is his partner.
Lavar is my second choice, based on BM's vote on him.
clidd is very likely actually a doc, but it's not a certainty and I don't get why BM not removing his vote is significant. I'm pretty sure trendall was the only other person on clidd's wagon at the time and no one else was expressing a desire to eliminate clidd d1 after the claim. Ben voted him for a very short period but I think he was just losing his mind at the time.

Ben and Lone are very town.
I do not get why this town indicative

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:19 am
by clidd
Is that a scumclaim, Rock?

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:20 am
by clidd
In post 1290, Rockhopper wrote:VOTE: Battle Mage
I think you know that BM can just selfhammer.

And you fos on Chumbo over Lava doesn't make much sense to me.

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:25 am
by clidd
You also said on D1 that Lava and Lunar were your solve, so why is Chumbo your main suspect now?

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:26 am
by Rockhopper
In post 1294, clidd wrote:You also said on D1 that Lava and Lunar were your solve, so why is Chumbo your main suspect now?
I said {Chumbo, Lunar} was my solve.

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:26 am
by Rockhopper
UNVOTE:

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:27 am
by clidd
Ok, good. You remember.

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:29 am
by clidd
And what about Lava, do you have your reasons to TR him or you just agree with something that I or Ben said about the slot?

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:32 am
by Rockhopper
In post 1298, clidd wrote:And what about Lava, do you have your reasons to TR him or you just agree with something that I or Ben said about the slot?
I have my reasons for we he's more likely town than Chumbo, ,