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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:26 pm
by nomnomnom
I'm just trying to wrap my head around vfp just making that one post that set my alarm bells off and then wanting to 1v1 during the day
vfp just comes in with the scummiest post, I point it out and he suddenly want to 1v1 me
In a large game forcing a 1v1 on day 1 feels like trying to distract from everything else from this game
but does scum!vfp not only believe that his position is good enough to push me, but also believe that when I get lynched, he will get to go away from it?
I mean he could also just be traitor and be okay with being lynched tomorrow, which would mean that the heat was on scumpartners beforehand, maybe?
That or he's just forceful town

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:28 pm
by nomnomnom
fuck this sucks
UNVOTE:
let me time to chill out, I'll reread tomorrow after a good night of sleep, need to regain some composure and give everything a thorough reread

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:29 pm
by nomnomnom
I'm also very confused at the wagon forming on me as quickly as it did

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:30 pm
by Anya
which post did you call out dolphin in originally?

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:32 pm
by nomnomnom

That just seemed completely manipulative and completely inconsistent with a town mindset and him pointing out "I only said if I agreed!" makes me think he would never have changed in the first place

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:34 pm
by Nero Cain
help us lynch titus and i'll forgive u nom

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:36 pm
by Anya
yeah that's pretty fishy

also nom opting to call that out rather than show dolphin the misrep and potentially get someone voting him to vote his counterplane instead is really towny

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:37 pm
by nomnomnom
What's even the case on Titus really
I'll admit I skimmed a lot of posts concerning certain slots in this game so do me a favor and clarify your case here
I just need a good night of sleep at this point

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:38 pm
by Nero Cain
i mean, there never was a misrep lol

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:45 pm
by nomnomnom
In post 1283, Nero Cain wrote:i mean, there never was a misrep lol
honestly I'm starting to see that this entire misrep discussion is probably just us disagreeing on what misrep means and I think it's, again, a pointless nitpicking exercise and I don't want to waste my breath arguing on definitions
my overarching point is that you're trying to place entire intents in my posts and qualifying a good portion of my posts "unoriginal and copying X" and to me that's just misrepping a good portion of my posts, you call that "different interpretation" I call that misrep and manipulative behavior, can we settle on that?
besides I think vfp's behavior and the wagon on me is infinitely more important than this discussion right now and I think there's got to be scum on my wagon by how fast it formed and people just willingly going into a weird unofficial gladiate for no reason whatsoever

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:49 pm
by nomnomnom
I think this whole 1v1 force makes sense in a world where scum!vfp is a traitor and wants to draw attention away from other points of this game
I've seen town pull these "1v1 me and if you're town then people can lynch me tomorrow" before so despite this being a horrible townplay I can't deny town!vfp can do this
again... I need to sleep and reread

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:25 pm
by VFP
In post 1276, nomnomnom wrote:fuck this sucks
UNVOTE:
let me time to chill out, I'll reread tomorrow after a good night of sleep, need to regain some composure and give everything a thorough reread
Oh look there's the unvote.
Like I said, it was fake.

Get this scum out of here.

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:26 pm
by Nero Cain
theoretically, they are all town and just think that my lynch is stupid b/c they think I'm town. Could there be scum that's trying to not get me lynched for the town cred? eh maybe but then I just feel like there are just scummier slots.
In post 1284, nomnomnom wrote:my overarching point is that you're trying to place entire intents in my posts and qualifying a good portion of my posts "unoriginal and copying X" and to me that's just misrepping a good portion of my posts, you call that "different interpretation" I call that misrep and manipulative behavior, can we settle on that?
nom, this is a game based around lying where one faction doesn't always say what they mean. Maybe I'm being overzealous and paranoid but what you are calling misrep and manipulative behavior I call scumhunting.

I'll get up my Titus stuff later

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:29 pm
by VFP
Nom - VFP has to be scum
Also Nom - I think there's scum on my wagon just because it was quick

Get this outta here!
Day 1 scum goes loverly with a bit of toast in the morning!

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:34 pm
by VFP
In post 1287, Nero Cain wrote:nom, this is a game based around lying where one faction doesn't always say what they mean. Maybe I'm being overzealous and paranoid but what you are calling misrep and manipulative behavior I call scumhunting.

I'll get up my Titus stuff later
Let's be very clear here, Nom is 100% lying and trying to weasel out of it.
Nom is 100% caught scum so they are trying to now back track on the argument that you were mis repping and instead they now mis understand the term?
Still they have no posted to where either.... The only thing that they pointed to was saying that you are nit picking, which the follow up response shows that this was not the original argument.
Meaning that they are LYING

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:44 pm
by VFP
Do you notice that they unvote rather than vote scum me?
Thats because scum do not want flips within me and Nom here, Nom included.

Even the "self vote" was a shitty attempt at AtE like I called. Nom agreed that they should be okay with the lim on them to find me as scum, and suddenly unvotes and not even votes me?
This shows that the self vote and posting was just fake yesterday.

Osuka, where you at?
Too many players are trying to dodge this behaviour from Nom. Get to voting there!
Or even me. I really don't give a shit other than voting outside of us.

SCUM. DO. NOT. WANT. THIS. DUAL!
Scum are not voting in us.

Look at who's voting, and who's dodging. It says a lot.

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:25 pm
by nomnomnom
Can't sleep, too much coffee I guess
@vfp I assume you're an alt? on the offchance you don't care about revealing your main username I'd very much like to read your previous games

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:30 pm
by nomnomnom
Eeeeh looks like it won't even be needed
Reading a bunch of his towngames he seems to be as confrontational as here, so I guess this whole thing in his townrange?
Lemme read a scumgame or two

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:49 pm
by nomnomnom
Reading this micro where he was scum https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=86649
Seems much more forceful here outright telling the entirety of the playlist what to do, which feels oddly reminiscent of what's happening here
Reading this other game where he was scum
He makes this post as he is last scum alive https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86587
In post 1643, VFP wrote:I just saw the FN claim.
I think this game is solved then.

Lim me.
Lim in the masons
If fake lim the other Mason, if real, it's just Dunn and Egix.

Both pairs have credit to lie on the roles.
Masons were just caught if scum
Egix is the lim if claiming VT.

Do it in that order as town won't have FN's and Masons

VOTE: VFP
So this kind of "lim me if X" is also in his scumrange
I've honestly skimmed a bunch, I would probably need to read more towngames, but this is what I got from the skim

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:50 pm
by nomnomnom
VOTE: VFP

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:57 pm
by nomnomnom
i'll try getting some sleep wish me luck

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:58 pm
by VFP
In post 1291, nomnomnom wrote:Can't sleep, too much coffee I guess
@vfp I assume you're an alt? on the offchance you don't care about revealing your main username I'd very much like to read your previous games
I'm not actually hiding my main and have said in a few games so I guess it's a don't ask don't tell. It's Vedith.
I haven't played on there for years though, and this is my only other account I use.

I also know that you have no intent to read any games either. Because you're just scum.

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:00 pm
by VFP
In post 1294, nomnomnom wrote:VOTE: VFP
That's the spirit, seal your fate.

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:05 pm
by VFP
If you want where I'm 100% correct on scum day 1.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=86564

This is no different and you share some style reactions to Meuh there.
You play it off as a joke
You try to make it look like a personal attack from me
You're argument goes to me scum because of the push

Nom is scum here.

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:07 pm
by nomnomnom
In post 1296, VFP wrote:I also know that you have no intent to read any games either. Because you're just scum.
I just did though
You can drop the theatrics lol
I'll read the vedith games when i wake up later
just for my own curiosity, do you feel your playstyle has changed in any serious capacity during that timeframe? you came off as very forceful town and scum who's willing to gambit and strongarm town, should I expect the same when reading the other games?
pedit:
thanks but I don't read games to know where you got scum and where you didn't, I'm glad you're proud of yourself though, want a gold star sticker? :P