Micro 1029: 8-Ball (but with Wolves) Game Over

[the worst]

I mean gambling the game is inevitable. Why not do it sooner?

gambling the game on one elimination is just mafia. gambling the game on whether 2/6 of the plist is the 8-ball is just goofy

[Something_Smart]

why are you playing in a way that you expect to get killed for as any alignment??

Because I have some degree of faith in the people here to be able to discern my alignment at a better than random rate.

[Something_Smart]

all you learn is whether someone is the 8-ball.

Disagree. But I obviously can't elaborate.

[House]

yup, because I think my execution may not be inevitable

I only feel that way as one alignment, that's for damn sure.

As far as I'm concerned, it is.

Not for your play, mind you. Because of everyone else's.

[Morning Tweet]

Refusing to share reads initially but actually having extremely strong ones, defending tw and scumreading imaginality but not actually trying to kill him, refusing to compromise or change my reads at all during the course of the day

The first could be a "I have a secret plan/strategy" type thing, mixed in with WIFOM of "if im scum I know this look bad so i don't do it"

the second, sure, NAI

and the third I still find scummy even if you're aware it's scummy. There are five of us, you dont have a lot of wiggle room especially if your partner boxes you to play a certain way with their reads

[Something_Smart]

and the third I still find scummy even if you're aware it's scummy.

it's demonstrably not though, unless I'm scum with tw. Because if I switched to tw, then wouldn't I have a lot lower chance of dying?

[Something_Smart]

The first could be a "I have a secret plan/strategy" type thing, mixed in with WIFOM of "if im scum I know this look bad so i don't do it"

The plan wasn't secret though. And I don't know what you mean by that "type of thing" anyway, it's not like scum pretend to have a secret plan for towncred when they really don't.

As for the WIFOM, well how's that working out for me?

[House]

it's demonstrably not though, unless I'm scum with tw.

You'll never guess my hero solve!

[Something_Smart]

Right, and that raises the question of what was our plan to win today? 8-ball imagine and hope that people just magically reverse their reads on him?

[the worst]

don't tell them

[Morning Tweet]

why are you playing in a way that you expect to get killed for as any alignment??

Because I have some degree of faith in the people here to be able to discern my alignment at a better than random rate.

What are you gaining from hiding reads, not forcing any will on the game, not reevaluting, etc. Those are all things that are much more beneficial to scum, no?

and the third I still find scummy even if you're aware it's scummy.

it's demonstrably not though, unless I'm scum with tw. Because if I switched to tw, then wouldn't I have a lot lower chance of dying?

TW aka your supposed strongest TR?

The first could be a "I have a secret plan/strategy" type thing, mixed in with WIFOM of "if im scum I know this look bad so i don't do it"

The plan wasn't secret though. And I don't know what you mean by that "type of thing" anyway, it's not like scum pretend to have a secret plan for towncred when they really don't.

As for the WIFOM, well how's that working out for me?

I don't know how to explain it lol. Sometimes I see scum be mysterious or otherwise hide stuff because they have a secret strategy -- just to seem towny. You're doing something that seems scummy for an ulterior motive (hiding reads so scum doesnt game you). I feel you probably don't come to the conclusion that hiding your reads is a good idea as town -- mechanically it makes no sense

Also, how were you supposed to know how it would work out?

[Morning Tweet]

Right, and that raises the question of what was our plan to win today? 8-ball imagine and hope that people just magically reverse their reads on him?

8-ball Bingle and literally just have me have an incorrect read? I was considering Bingle start of day. Worst was. Imagine was (obviously). House could have.

[Something_Smart]

What are you gaining from hiding reads, not forcing any will on the game, not reevaluting, etc. Those are all things that are much more beneficial to scum, no?

The reads hiding discussion already happened. It's very beneficial to town if someone can go the whole day without sharing their reads.

As for the second one, it wouldn't work. Trust me, I spent years of my life on the site under the mistaken belief that it did.

As for the third one, it's pro-town for me to represent my reads accurate (if I choose to represent them). If they don't change, why would I pretend they did?

[House]

Right, and that raises the question of what was our plan to win today? 8-ball imagine and hope that people just magically reverse their reads on him?

I think Bingle is the 8-Ball.

He was the most vulnerable.

[Something_Smart]

8-ball Bingle and literally just have me have an incorrect read?

And then do my best to convince everyone that Bingle is 8-ball. What a genius plan.

[Morning Tweet]

About ready to vote worst just to avoid something stupid happening even if I'm not really totally convinced. He could be scum, sure. I think he's probably scum with SS in that case, but i digress

[Morning Tweet]

8-ball Bingle and literally just have me have an incorrect read?

And then do my best to convince everyone that Bingle is 8-ball. What a genius plan.

If Bingle is scum it doesn't exactly matter does it?

[Something_Smart]

I think he's probably scum with SS in that case

Finally, something we agree on.

[Morning Tweet]

Plus, WIFOM. Maybe we would have expected scum to not 8-ball the obvious target again.

It was Xylo. I don't see why you don't hope for 1 town to have a misread and get an easy win

[Something_Smart]

If Bingle is scum it doesn't exactly matter does it?

I mean, that was in reference to a hypothetical where the team was me/tw. But sure it still matters, if we kill a scum 8-ball we remain in potentially-mylo.

[Something_Smart]

I don't see why you don't hope for 1 town to have a misread and get an easy win

I agree, that is probably what we would do, so why didn't we do it?

[Morning Tweet]

If Bingle is scum it doesn't exactly matter does it?

I mean, that was in reference to a hypothetical where the team was me/tw. But sure it still matters, if we kill a scum 8-ball we remain in potentially-mylo.

No, I mean if you argue Bingle is scum, then it doesnt matter if Bingle is 8-ball.

Imagine was positioned to push Bingle today, so was worst. You were laying back and saying "no dont do it" a little but as you are aware it wouldn't have had an effect, then you could quick hammer

[the worst]

because we agreed to shoot taly and make STD the 8-ball?

[Morning Tweet]

I don't see why you don't hope for 1 town to have a misread and get an easy win

I agree, that is probably what we would do, so why didn't we do it?

You........ did? I don't understand, I am accusing you of doing just that

[Morning Tweet]

I am saying you 8-balled bingle and had worst or imagine push him while you sat back and waited to pounce