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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:10 pm
by Cat Scratch Fever
I'll link my crumb later. Kind of driving rn

Oh yeah i also jailkeopt butterchurn bc he claimed mason so it's unlikely he would have another role on top of that so i wouldn't RB an active role

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:11 pm
by BlueBloodedToffee
Who did you jail N1?

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:12 pm
by Cat Scratch Fever
Novice

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:13 pm
by BlueBloodedToffee
I don't know what that means

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:14 pm
by Cat Scratch Fever
Can't act night 1

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:14 pm
by BlueBloodedToffee
Just Wiki'd it. My bad

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:15 pm
by BlueBloodedToffee
UNVOTE:

Scum targeting Butter makes more sense than targeting Drap N3, no?

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:21 pm
by Best Bird
VOTE: mala

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:22 pm
by Cat Scratch Fever
In post 10671, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 10662, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 10659, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Probably not, I meant more in terms of like why
you
and not Luke or Pooky or whatever
Could be. I think scum would doc!hint but my role means it’s not cut and dry. So if there is the possibility I’d like town to have more pieces of the full picture.
I guess i don't see why scum would target you
over a mason or something


But i agree with the general idea that scum probably didn't target drapion last night to avoid collision with a town protective
In post 10888, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 10833, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 10671, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 10662, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 10659, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Probably not, I meant more in terms of like why
you
and not Luke or Pooky or whatever
Could be. I think scum would doc!hint but my role means it’s not cut and dry. So if there is the possibility I’d like town to have more pieces of the full picture.
I guess i don't see why scum would target you
over butterchurn or something


But i agree with the general idea that scum probably didn't target drapion last night to avoid collision with a town protective
So how do you account for the no kill then? This is why I think OfH should check Bella because it looked like she might have been informed about doc.
I changed the text in the bolded bit

This conversation was talking about the missing night kill, so I thought this was a good place to leave a crumb

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:24 pm
by Cat Scratch Fever
In post 12757, Best Bird wrote:VOTE: mala
I'm actually feeling this now bc I feel like mala should be able to recognize that I'm town here and really disliked her vote on me. She's seen me be very awkward and frozen as scum

VOTE: mala

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:35 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
In post 12748, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I just think the whole thing seems off? Did scum really go for Drap knowing there was likely a protective role?

Could Drap be scum who gained ultimate cred by throwing Bella under the bus and then scum, knowing Doc would be almost forced onto Drap, perform a no kill?

Or even just force Doc onto Drap to allow them to kill freely elsewhere? I don't know, just something to think about.
If I’m ever mafia I never perform a no kill.
Just an FYI.

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:38 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
In post 12749, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I'm ana Lucia novice jk

I jailkeopt BBT n2 because he was my second scumread after Johnny, who i was hoping would be vigged lol

N3 and n4 i jailkept butterchurn bc i wasn't that confident in my scumreads and used it defensively. I crumbed my n3 target since there was no kill that night and thought maybe a doc would be on drapion, so i can protect elsewhere to not rb him
Another protective role eh?
Jailkeeper is also a common both ways role. (Town and Mafia aligned equally)
This can be a true claim regardless of alignment. (Although unsure if you have novice modifier if your mafia)

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:40 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
In post 12756, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:UNVOTE:

Scum targeting Butter makes more sense than targeting Drap N3, no?
Eh it depends how much mafia fears me tbh.

Another thing that bugs me is that I was roleblocked night 1 and CSF claims Novice.

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:41 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
In post 12747, butterflies wrote:
In post 12744, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Mostly tongue in cheek BB.

Kind of wondering about OTH theory as well though
I think it’s possible scum could possibly have an informed role because of the way Math went after Galron straight out of the gate.
You think Math knew I was Tracker?

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:43 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
In post 12759, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 12757, Best Bird wrote:VOTE: mala
I'm actually feeling this now bc I feel like mala should be able to recognize that I'm town here and really disliked her vote on me. She's seen me be very awkward and frozen as scum

VOTE: mala
If this flips town, I’m tracking one of you 3 tonight. (BBT/CSF/BB)

VOTE: mala

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:43 pm
by Cat Scratch Fever
The episode for the novice modifier is the other 48 days

And also mala is claiming scum have both a RB (math) and a macho doc (Bella). Jk is just both combined so it'd be a bit redundant for scum to have all 3

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:44 pm
by Best Bird
In post 12764, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
In post 12759, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 12757, Best Bird wrote:VOTE: mala
I'm actually feeling this now bc I feel like mala should be able to recognize that I'm town here and really disliked her vote on me. She's seen me be very awkward and frozen as scum

VOTE: mala
If this flips town, I’m tracking one of you 3 tonight. (BBT/CSF/BB)

VOTE: mala
track me then...don't care

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:51 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
Drapion is such a fuckin enigma man. I thought they were using me as nk bait and I didn't wanna out TBone, but i'm super not Doc and super confused about why they thought so. On top of that, now that they know I'm not Doc, they're still insisting I'm town which is honestly disturbing because I don't get townread often, not even when at my towniest.

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:11 pm
by butterflies
In post 12739, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I protected Luke N1, BB N2 (think their role was outed and wanted to make sure we got use out of it), then Drap on 3 and 4.
In post 12749, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I'm ana Lucia novice jk

I jailkeopt BBT n2 because he was my second scumread after Johnny, who i was hoping would be vigged lol

N3 and n4 i jailkept butterchurn bc i wasn't that confident in my scumreads and used it defensively. I crumbed my n3 target since there was no kill that night and thought maybe a doc would be on drapion, so i can protect elsewhere to not rb him
So n3 was the no kill right? So scum probably either tried to kill Drap or Butterchurn then. I’m guessing scum probably didn’t think Johnny was really doc or else they wouldn’t have killed Luke.

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:12 pm
by butterflies
In post 12760, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
In post 12748, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I just think the whole thing seems off? Did scum really go for Drap knowing there was likely a protective role?

Could Drap be scum who gained ultimate cred by throwing Bella under the bus and then scum, knowing Doc would be almost forced onto Drap, perform a no kill?

Or even just force Doc onto Drap to allow them to kill freely elsewhere? I don't know, just something to think about.
If I’m ever mafia I never perform a no kill.
Just an FYI.
There’s no evidence that happened, probably extremely unlikely.

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:15 pm
by butterflies
In post 12761, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
In post 12749, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I'm ana Lucia novice jk

I jailkeopt BBT n2 because he was my second scumread after Johnny, who i was hoping would be vigged lol

N3 and n4 i jailkept butterchurn bc i wasn't that confident in my scumreads and used it defensively. I crumbed my n3 target since there was no kill that night and thought maybe a doc would be on drapion, so i can protect elsewhere to not rb him
Another protective role eh?
Jailkeeper is also a common both ways role. (Town and Mafia aligned equally)
This can be a true claim regardless of alignment. (Although unsure if you have novice modifier if your mafia)
Roles aren’t ai. Have you ever seen a town role cop or scum macho doc in any game before this one? Assuming Bella was actually telling the truth about that but BBT’s claim seems to suggest that she probably was likely a scum macho doc.

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:18 pm
by butterflies
In post 12763, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
In post 12747, butterflies wrote:
In post 12744, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Mostly tongue in cheek BB.

Kind of wondering about OTH theory as well though
I think it’s possible scum could possibly have an informed role because of the way Math went after Galron straight out of the gate.
You think Math knew I was Tracker?
I have no idea but he straight up went hard after Galron for some reason and weren’t you rb’d before you claimed anything? So I think it’s possible.

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:21 pm
by butterflies
In post 2306, MathBlade wrote:That’s…a thing. FoS on Galron’s replacement

When Galron is quiet it’s usually a scum tell for him and he’s in the bottom half of post count.

I will ISO him later and see if it is all naked or if it has content.

If his ISO has content it’s not a scum lock but if no content Yeet please.

I’d normally vote Galron here but I have a rule of letting people play first.
In post 2311, MathBlade wrote:Okay Galron has content so NAI for that slot
First and third post by Math.

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:24 pm
by butterflies
In post 1442, Corwinoid wrote:If y'all insist for the damn spreadsheet... (honest question, can you post a spreadsheet?)

Town:
Corwinoid
Rad
Cytosine and Guanine (Ircher and RH9)
--
JohnnyFarrar
T-Bone
--

Null

Dancing Puppets (Nancy Drew 39 and Titus)
Taly Toogeloo
PookyTheMagicalBear
MalcolmTucker
Off the Hook (Gamma Emerald and Marcistar)
Galron
Cephrir
Roden
Dwlee99
Klick
Dunnstral
Lukewarm
PenguinPower
Bellaphant

--
BlueBloodedToffee
The toad

Frogsterking
Enchant
Bell
--
Scum
Malakittens

Annoying me on a personal level for pushing me do this
Cat Scratch Fever humaneatingmonkey
In post 1444, Corwinoid wrote:Null on CSF so far, honestly[/b]
Weird read on CSF.

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:28 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
In post 12767, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Drapion is such a fuckin enigma man. I thought they were using me as nk bait and I didn't wanna out TBone, but i'm super not Doc and super confused about why they thought so. On top of that, now that they know I'm not Doc, they're still insisting I'm town which is honestly disturbing because I don't get townread often, not even when at my towniest.
Yes most LHF don’t, I’m the one defending them half the time.
I’ve done it with players like Dr.Wigly and Gorta. (Both LHF from different sites)