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Post Post #1300 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:56 am

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Wickedestjr wrote:Oh my god. These have been my main suspects most of the game. You guys are just pairing up people that are the scummiest without considering the fact that we have been accusing each other most of the game.
Have you ever heard of distancing yourself from your scumbuddies by "suspecting" them? When one of them is lynched and flips town you appear townie for suspecting him. That's what I think you're doing. Suspecting them doesn't rule you out as scum, as it's often a scum tactic.
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Post Post #1301 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:57 am

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Oh, Tajo already explained my point. :oops:
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Post Post #1302 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:05 am

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Sorry for the triple post.
Wicked wrote:
Slicey wrote: And I didn't include that I'm a vampire because it's obvious I am one.
It is obvious that vampires are the killers, hence why I put that in my pm instead of killers.
Why is it obvious that vampires are killers? Cayke was Carlisle, a vampire, and what was he? The
doctor
. I'm not saying that the mafia aren't necessarily vampires, but you can't assume that vampire = killer because we know for a fact that it's not true.
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Post Post #1303 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:13 am

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populartajo wrote:Question, why did you wait to unvote until now? Did magnus last post make you reconsider things and made you suspect me?

About the inconsistency check this out:
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populartajo wrote:Wickedestjr, is the name "Bella" in your PM?
What made you come to the conclusion that the vampires were scum?
Yes, the name Bella is in my role pm.
I got the conclusion that the vampires were scum based on the opening post.
Wickedestjr wrote:Role Claim: I'm Jessica Stanley. A vanilla townie. I was one of Bella's first friends at Forks.
I want to get rid of all the vampires
, to prevent my death. I win when all threats to the town are eliminated.
Okay, if Wicked indeed has the "I want to get rid of all the vampires" clause in his PM, then he should have got the conclusion that the vampires were scum based on his PM, not based in the opening post.
My pm didn't say that I want to get rid of the vampires. It said that I want to get rid of the killers. I just replaced that with vampires.


@Iecerint - I noticed you were calling me a she. Just so you know, I'm not a girl. :wink:


orangepenguin wrote:
OP, does your flavor specify that you are a vampire?
Yes, it does.
Why didn't you say so eariler?


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populartajo wrote:EBWOP
Whicj strongly indicates that he doesnt have that clause in his PM. Therefore he is lying scum.
:shock:

I want to hear from Wicked before anyone hammers.
If this wasn't one of the reasons why you were voting me, then what are your reasons for voting me? You do have reasons... Right?

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OP, you still think its possible that Slicey and Wicked could be scum togehter?
Well, why couldn't they? If those two are scum, then it also might be possible that magnus could be scum with them.

Ugh, well, since neither Slicey or Wicked are going to be lynched, a MO lynch is the third best option.
Vote: MO
. I think that's the hammer.


Oh my god. You think me and Slicey are scum buddies. When are you going to make a smart comment?

OP wrote:
Why do you think magnus is less scummy than both of these?
Because both of them have REALLY sketchy claims (which MO also shares, I guess), and I think they are faking them, especially Wicked, since he's been caught in a lie. Slicey has been opportunistic and a whole lot more. magnus isn't any less scummy, but I just disagree with some of the case on him. I think you have an excellent case against Wicked though, and I will be pressing that tomorrow, along with the Slicey lining up lynches issue he never addressed, and conveniently ignored, instead to focus on Wicked and MO, and not himself.
I like how you voted MO once tajo got onto you about it, and you didn't even wait for me to explain myself for the other thing.


OP, are you going to respond to post 1222?
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Post Post #1304 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:20 am

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populartajo wrote:1: Wicked, have you ever heard of bussing? Do you think that its impossible for scum to attack their partners in order to distance of them once they get lynched and come up scum?

2: Also, why do you think Pome could be scum? 3: He also attacked magnus orion, why doesnt your logic work with her?

4: And finally, if you thought your Pome post was weak, then why did you post it? 5: Who is more likely to post weak cases, scum or town?
wicked wrote:You guys are just pairing up people that are the scummiest without considering the fact that we have been accusing each other most of the game.
6: Where does orange penguin fit in this?=
1: Yes I've heard of bussing. Why would I buss Slicey, magnus_orion, or OP, when none of them were about to be lynched yesterday?

2: I am doubting that Slicey is scum.

3: Where did she attack magnus?

4: Well ignoring something because it is weak is stupid.

5: I believe my case had some good points.

6: Some people think I am scum buddies with him even though I'm suspicious of him. Assuming that magnus is scum, I will probably be targetting him tomorrow.
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Post Post #1305 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:21 am

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Wicked wrote:Oh my god. You think me and Slicey are scum buddies. When are you going to make a smart comment?
Have you read Tajo's post 1298 or my post 1300? They explain our reasoning for thinking you could be scumbuddies with the people you "suspect".
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Post Post #1306 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:22 am

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Pomegranate wrote:Sorry for the triple post.
Wicked wrote:
Slicey wrote: And I didn't include that I'm a vampire because it's obvious I am one.
It is obvious that vampires are the killers, hence why I put that in my pm instead of killers.
Why is it obvious that vampires are killers? Cayke was Carlisle, a vampire, and what was he? The
doctor
. I'm not saying that the mafia aren't necessarily vampires, but you can't assume that vampire = killer because we know for a fact that it's not true.
I've explained this before.
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Post Post #1307 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:25 am

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Pomegranate wrote:
Wicked wrote:Oh my god. You think me and Slicey are scum buddies. When are you going to make a smart comment?
Have you read Tajo's post 1298 or my post 1300? They explain our reasoning for thinking you could be scumbuddies with the people you "suspect".
I could be bussing them but I've been suspicious of them before any of them were about to get lynched.
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Post Post #1308 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:26 am

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Wickedestjr wrote:
Pomegranate wrote:Sorry for the triple post.
Wicked wrote:
Slicey wrote: And I didn't include that I'm a vampire because it's obvious I am one.
It is obvious that vampires are the killers, hence why I put that in my pm instead of killers.
Why is it obvious that vampires are killers? Cayke was Carlisle, a vampire, and what was he? The
doctor
. I'm not saying that the mafia aren't necessarily vampires, but you can't assume that vampire = killer because we know for a fact that it's not true.
I've explained this before.
Where?
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Post Post #1309 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:28 am

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Wickedestjr wrote:
Pomegranate wrote:
Wicked wrote:Oh my god. You think me and Slicey are scum buddies. When are you going to make a smart comment?
Have you read Tajo's post 1298 or my post 1300? They explain our reasoning for thinking you could be scumbuddies with the people you "suspect".
I could be bussing them but I've been suspicious of them before any of them were about to get lynched.
You weren't very strongly suspecting them IIRC, so there's no reason you couldn't have been distancing yourself from them then.
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Post Post #1310 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:42 am

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I'd better get puppy-power flavor if I'm NK'd. :D
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Post Post #1311 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:29 am

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Vote Count

magnus_orion - 5 - populartajo, Iecerint, Slicey, Pomegranate, OrangePenguin
No Lynch - 1 - Wickedestjr

Not Voting - faraday, magnus_orion,
With 8 alive, 5 will lynch.


After 2 days, no killers have been found. After Dr. Cullen's death, people started to wonder if vampires were responsible for this at all or if people had gotten too close to animals or something. But these deaths happen every night now. There has to be a reason. Meh, let's just kill someone and see what happens.

"If you guys want to kill someone today, you can use this blowtorch."

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Post Post #1312 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:51 am

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So that new girl Bella has really started to fit in. Everyone really seems to like her. Too bad about her parents though. Even with her parents dying within days of her moving to Forks, Bella has seen her share of drama. Most of it revolved around Edward though, and now he's dead. So no parents, no Edward. Who is going to protect her. Hell, where is she staying?

Wait, speaking of Bella, where'd she go? Wait.. No... Oh shit. No.

"We found her. She didn't make it.."


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It is now Night 4


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Post Post #1313 (ISO) » Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:29 am

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Jacob Black was first to greet Bella upon her arrival. He enjoyed spending time with her years back. But then she started spending time around the Cullens. What the hell was she thinking? No one should be around them. They can't be trusted. And now just after Edward Cullen died, Bella is dead. Well, Jacob wasn't happy at all. Half of him wanted to go kill the Cullens immediately. Just run up their and kill them all. The other half wanted to run away and hide for the rest of his life. In the end, it didn't really matter because he was their next target.


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Day 5 begins.


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Not Voting -populartajo, Slicey, Pomegranate, OrangePenguin, Wickedestjr

With 5 alive, 3 will lynch.


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Post Post #1314 (ISO) » Fri Aug 21, 2009 2:28 pm

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Great game. Don't lose. Go town. :)
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Post Post #1315 (ISO) » Fri Aug 21, 2009 2:57 pm

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I think with magnus flipping scum pretty much confirms Wicked being scum with him. We might be in LyLo, but there's no point in waiting if we have a pretty much confirmed scum.

Vote: Wicked
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Post Post #1316 (ISO) » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:05 pm

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Bah
Well, at least I went down in flames.
Although, I might find it difficult to obey rule 10, seeing as how a charred corpse generally doesn't rot. I'll do my best though.
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Post Post #1317 (ISO) » Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:18 pm

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I don't feel like this needs explanation.
Vote: Wicked
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Post Post #1318 (ISO) » Sat Aug 22, 2009 5:37 pm

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vote: wicked


I still think he's scum.
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Post Post #1319 (ISO) » Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:54 pm

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This went faster than I expected.

Magnuscum fakeclaimed so we are looking for inconsistencies in fakeclaims.

I would have liked a little more conversation but anyways Wicked would have been my vote today. I needed to check one thing before but its done anyways.

If we lose then gg scum. If wicked is scum, as I suspect, then focus people, slicey and wicked cant be scum together, and pome is town, so by poe orange penguin has to be scum.

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Post Post #1320 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:38 am

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Wicked
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Jessica Stanley, townie
just kind of randomly dies because she is just one of Bella's less important friends and Bella is dead so there is no point in her anymore.


Tajo drops dead too. Mike Newton. Vanilla.


"Wait, people are dying? My turn I guess." Pome, Alice Cullen, also vanilla, kills herself for the fun of it.


Looks like OP (Victoria) and Slicey (Laurent) need to find a new town to kill people in


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Post Post #1321 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:44 am

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Ack, I was sure of Wicked. His No-Lynch push looked bad after we saw that scum got a free night. Ah well.

Well-done, scum.
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Post Post #1322 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:46 am

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Here's what bothered me about this entire game, barely anyone looked up the source material. I think that is definitely what sunk the village. Obviously, there is more detail from the book than the movie and if the mod used a general Twilight Wiki to write the PMs, then he definitely had more detail from the book than the movie.

I don't think flavor was that important TBH. I try not to let it be.
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Post Post #1323 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:46 am

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Thanks guys for the spoiler that Jacob is a werewolf. I knew something was up with him, but holy shit.

On why I made James, Victoria, and Laurent the scum:
I figured if I gave them all fakeclaims, it would serve the purpose of not letting mass-nameclaim break the game. It's one of a few ways to prevent this, and it's the one I chose for this game. I'm aware there are others.

On all the scum fakeclaims being Cullens:
Coincidence. I simply gave them characters who weren't in the game and realized it later. I decided to leave it that way.

on Zwet:
I don't see why everyone was so pissed off at him. His role meant Bella knew he was town. Ok, claiming out of the gate isn't what I'd have done, but it's the strategy he chose. He was able to confirm himself to Bella and Faraday would have been confirmed as soon as he claimed. The
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Faraday was basically a beloved princess. I played that role once and layed low. The difference is that in that game, everyone knew the role existed. I'm not sure I'd have played it the same way that he did to be honest. He made it pretty obvious that he was Bella. I wouldn't have defended Zwet by saying he's confirmed. I wouldn't have pushed his lynch either though. Farady did draw protections from both the guard and the doc though.

Cay was dead on when she mentioned the beloved princess/guard. I'm curious why she said so in thread though. Maybe she was trying to draw the kill to Faraday because she was protecting him?

Iec's paraphrasing was a little too close. Unfortunately, I didn't see it until much later. Also, I didn't notice his fake hammer on Katy. That was my mistake...

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N1:
Spy investigates Kloud (Spy is killed)
EK protects Faraday
Cay protects Farady
Slicey kills SpyreX (Successful)
Kloud tracks Cay (Cay visited Farady)

N2:
Slicey kills EK
Magnus tracks Wicked

N3:
Slicey kills Faraday

N4:
Slicey kills Iec.
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Post Post #1324 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:50 am

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The flavor is what sunk me. They got all tied up on that and didn't think that Bella's mother had a bigger role in the book than in the movie.
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