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Post Post #1300 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 8:04 am

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I think the biggest issue I have with Shmu is that he as pusedo-town who was fighting for his life, cared more about if the other players wanting/not wanting him to claim then claiming to save his life. I don't see why town would stall like that.

That said.
vote:Iece
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit
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Post Post #1301 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 9:15 am

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I wanted what's best for the town, Nero. If, for some reason, it had been decided that I would not be the lynch for the day, I would not want to claim too quickly.
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Post Post #1302 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 9:27 am

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Nero Cain wrote:lol that wasn't "rude" at all.

The fact you care about being perceived as nice shows me that you care about your standing among all the other players, a characteristic that I associate with scum play.


Streeeetch

@MoI
sorry if this has been asked before, but why did you ask to replace out? And please refresh my memory/tell me how often can you direct blaster shots at night?

Nexus lynch is probably not going to happen,
UNVOTE


splitfarvle wrote:
Slandaar wrote:I think I want to lynch the cow

I can get behind this, any other takers? I'm fairly locked into who I think is scum at this point, and Shmugan isn't on that list so I won't be voting for him.


I could definitely get behind this
VOTE:hascow


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if you're going to be lynched at some point anyway, why not now?

Lynches I'd support that have a vague chance of happening (in a vague descending order)
hascow
nexus
shmugen
moi

dr really is the ideal blaster fodder here.

MOI lynch is a meh for me, he seems to be playing like his usual self, and Slandaars case on him isn't incredible, will still hammer if neccesary.
Need to reread Shmugen now.
But come on, together we can speedlynch cow.
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Post Post #1303 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 9:30 am

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~Replacing Kdub~
Last edited by DeathNote on Wed May 09, 2012 9:35 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Post Post #1304 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 9:30 am

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And don't like the way Kdub has kept his vote on BB all day.
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Post Post #1305 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 9:31 am

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Elementary, my dear Briz. Stay alive longer, watch more.
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Post Post #1306 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 9:31 am

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WrathChild wrote:
4nxi3ty wrote:
unvote, vote: iece


only glanced at wraths post, am I right in thinkin it looks like an omgus vote?

isn't it deadline soon? If it is don't like how he votes someone without much support close to deadline.

You're only thinking its an OMGUS vote because you didn't read it. However, the point is valid that with so little time to the deadline I don't think I can get support to lynch you even though you slipped and said you knew MoI would be a mislynch (despite there being two scum teams).

Its not a slip

I declare it so
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Post Post #1307 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 9:39 am

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brizingre1 wrote:
VOTE:hascow


GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow
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Post Post #1308 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 9:50 am

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Shmugen ISO:
First few posts, he seems to be mentioning Kurtis a lot - minor scum vibes for worrying so much about what impression the person he was replacing was giving out. For future reference, he also states that Slandaar is probably scum, that he suspects PereV, BB and SK, and thinks that WC isnt being scummy. Or actually - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p3948889
@Shmugen
In this post you said that you were 'interested' in certain people, what do you mean by this (fear not, I am going somewhere with this).

The next few posts. Yay, found something!

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p3957780
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p3959505
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p3967734

In the first two posts, Shmugen states that Peregrine seems town to him, even saying: 'I do not understand why people think he is scum'. Then in the last post he happily leaps on to the Peregrine wagon, which just happened to be the largest wagon at that time with almost no reasoning 'I like the majority of the company on this wagon' is the only reason given. A pretty good bet for scum at this point.

More later, when I feel less tired.
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Post Post #1309 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 10:55 am

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This was the first game I ever replaced into. I mentioned Kurtis a few times to attempt to be the change I want to see in the world, replacements saying who they are replacing to make the slot easy to follow through ISOs. You twist my words significantly with the first post, Briz. I thought the behavior WC was being accused of wasn't scummy, therefor thinking that WC wasn't scummy. I was interested in BB because of the breadcrumbing issue and took note of PereV because of this section:
PeregrineV wrote:
MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Peregrine wrote:@MoI (re breadcrumbing) saying it doesn't make it true, and all you've done it said it. Through the whys in there and I'll listen.


If you were Town you’d have considered the whys and understood that stating them was anti-Town. Now that BBMolla has claimed I’ll actually say them –

1. VT player with a ‘Big Theme Name’ breadcrumbs said name as a means to draw a Nightkill / Block and help out Town power-roles.

So here you are saying that, using this logic, town Emperor Palantine should be breadcrumbing his ass off. You know, big theme name and all.

Now, Emperor Palpatine and Senator Palpatine may well both be in this game, but mention of my character gave me pause. By Interested, I meant 'taking note of', 'keeping an eye on', and/or 'wanting to know more about'.

My move to PeregrineV came a half-day before deadline after Slandaar became mod-confirmed town. It was a bit of a sheep move, true, but I looked at who I thought was town and joined the wagon that most of them were on.
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Post Post #1310 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2012 12:36 am

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Hey Town

Magna didnt get a new role pm

Hes still scum
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Post Post #1311 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2012 3:20 am

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Shmugen wrote:

Now, Emperor Palpatine and Senator Palpatine may well both be in this game, but mention of my character gave me pause. By Interested, I meant 'taking note of', 'keeping an eye on', and/or 'wanting to know more about'.
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How is PV using your character as an example scummy?
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edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit
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Post Post #1312 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2012 3:33 am

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I believe deadline is tomorrow. Should we ask for an extension on behalf of the three replacements coming in?

For myself, I'm happy with the deadline and want either MoI or Cow to flip.
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Post Post #1313 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2012 4:12 am

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Iec wrote: Iec thinks it is likely that Shmugen is lying and trying to draw protective roles with his "Neutral Watch on Slandaar" claim.

Iec is trying to balance that with his feeling about lynching claimed investigative roles.


Iec fence-sits like a champ and continues to do no scum-hunting at all while active lurking like a champ.

KILL IEC WITH FIRE!!!!


Deadline is coming … more Iec votes please!!!!


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Wrath wrote:I have an issue that you felt it necessary to unnecessarily announce VLAs. The content is fine, but there is an issue with throwing your hands up in the air and yelling "EFF THIS!" and then coming back as if it never happened.


Well see I have an issue with focusing on things that you can’t even suggest are alignment important as opposed to actual scum-hunting.

Well given how much stupidity Slandaar was throwing in thread I couldn’t stay away. Sue me. Do you think it makes me more likely to be scum? If not why mention it?

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Wrath wrote: I want this expanded on. Because from the turn of events and Mod response I am thinking that you knew there were two scum teams all along, but for some reason you wanted to flip back to implying that it was Scum Team and SK.


Slandaar wrote: (Magnas scum because he knew there were 2 scum teams then was like lol no its only 1 to hide this fact)


See this is why I find you both to be terrible players.

So you both are suggesting the following –

1. Scum MoI fakes a stance that Shadow was a Serial Killer.
2. Scum MoI needs to reverse this stance so he feigns replacing out.
3. Scum MoI gets the Mod to confirm two Scum factions as a defense for said shift even though that would absolutely be interfering with the game.

See this line of thought I so stupid I can’t even begin to understand how you both think it’s possible.

The reason for my possible replacement and the Mod’s statement –

I came across information out of thread that confirmed indeed we have two scum factions in this game in a way that didn’t divulge any other information. I can’t detail it more clearly than that.

I consulted Deathnote on his opinion as I believed this was information I should not have confirmation of based on the Mod’s manner of flipping scum after Night 1. He indicated that he did not intend for it to be unclear and after discussion about what information I had come across he indicated that he didn’t think my replacement was warranted.

Thus he made the post to clarify that the Mafia faction status publicly.
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Post Post #1314 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2012 4:36 am

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No Magna this is the thought process:

1. Magna says 'There are two scum teams'
2. People say 'I read it as one team + SK'
3. Magna says 'OH RIGHT YOU ARE! THERES ONLY ONE TEAM YOU GUYS!'
4. SD says 'GO TEAM!'
5. Magna refuses to believe SD is telling the truth. (this bit is ridiculous)
6. SD was telling the truth.

Magnas first assumption was correct, there was no reason to not consider it likely there are two teams after SD comment which implies there is an ulterior motive for not considering it ie magna is scum.

Which part made no sense?
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Post Post #1315 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2012 4:47 am

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So

I Want to lynch shotguns slot or Andrius maybe cow

Magna I think... is... town

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Post Post #1316 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2012 4:51 am

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Or maybe BB

UNVOTE:
VOTE: DrmyShotgun
(or whoever is in that slot)
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Post Post #1317 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2012 5:03 am

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lets not kill an empty slot and kill scumiece
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Post Post #1318 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2012 5:04 am

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Slandaar wrote:Magna I think... is... town

Sigh


No no ... don't back off now. You are so close to appeasing your personal ego in pushing through my mislynch. Scum crosskilled for us very nicely so you can not feel too bad about doing it.
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Post Post #1319 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2012 5:07 am

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How about we lynch anxiety and blaster shotgun?
I swear I left my gun somewhere.
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Post Post #1320 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2012 5:36 am

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No how about we lynch scum Iecerint. Kthanks!

Seriously. Look at his ISO. Tell me it isn't "I've buddied up to confirmed Town and am going to active lurk through the game taking no solid stances at all".
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Post Post #1321 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2012 6:23 am

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Slandaar wrote:So

I Want to lynch shotguns slot or Andrius maybe cow

Magna I think... is... town

Sigh


Why don't you want to leave shoguns slot for a blaster kill at night, if it doesn't work we can always lynch him tomorrow...
I'd support lynches on cow, Nexus and Shmugen at this point, probably need to ISO Iecerint soon.
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Post Post #1322 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2012 6:27 am

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Nero Cain said
Shmugen wrote:
Now, Emperor Palpatine and Senator Palpatine may well both be in this game, but mention of my character gave me pause. By Interested, I meant 'taking note of', 'keeping an eye on', and/or 'wanting to know more about'.

How is PV using your character as an example scummy?


Again, didn't say PV was scummy at this point. Said I was interested in him. Big difference.
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Post Post #1323 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2012 7:26 am

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Vote Count
BBmolla
- Kdub, hasdgfas (L-7)
MagnaofIllusion
- drmyshotgun, splitfarvle, Iecerint (L-6)
shmugen
- Nexus (L-8)
Iecerint
- Shmugen, MagnaofIllusion, 4nxi3ty, NeroCain(L-5)
4nxi3ty
- WrathChild (L-8)
hasdgfas
- brinzingre1 (L-8)
drmyshotgun
- Slandaar (L-8)

With 16 alive, it is 9 to lynch


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Post Post #1324 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2012 7:35 am

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Iece

I guess this is ok
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