WWE Attitude Era 2.0 Game over nWo'd

[kuribo]

And if Snake's claim were true, why is he still calling me town?

[MagnaofIllusion]

UNVOTE: Snake

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Second thing: MoI- IS told me he was going to be neighborizing you last night. Did you get neighborized? If so, why haven't you posted in the QT? You're absolutely right, though about me killing you if I had an NK. I don't expect these idiots to understand because they don't know the history there, but I'd have done it even if it was just so we could laugh about it at the end.

Nope, I did not get Neighborized. I’m PMing Jason about that now.

Who else was in the QT that has been dead?

Either way, Snake absolutely visited IS last night. (And I fucking DARE one of his scumbuddies to try and counter-claim that)

You have exactly one post to admit this is a gambit of some sort. Otherwise I will assume you are confirming it as valid and be voting Shotgun.

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Vote: kuribo

It's time someone picked up where WrathChild left off, too often the dead are forgotten. Elmo was scummy and worthy of death. kuribo was scummy as well and WC made good points against him, but PMY's worthless mislynch ass got in the way. It's time we face the facts that there is most certainly a SK in this game and that kuribo is most likely it. Yes, BP town is certainly a possiblity, but I think we should look more into his actions over his BP status, because regardless of the fact that kuribo is BP whatever, his actions and the actions of his predecessor are enough by themselves to incriminate him. Elmo's refusal to answer questions directed at him and kuribo's relentless OMGUS tunnelling of WC and flailing behavior is evidence of a scum mindset over a town mindset. He is just lucky that useless pink ball of fluff came along and saved his ass. TGG's awful "gambit" and general scummy lurking put kuribo's lynch off by one more day, but today we have to lynch him. There are no better targets than kuribo.

I dont like MoI saying that kuribo would have definately shot him if he was indeed the SK. NK speculation is next to useless, people are NKed for any and all reasons, and thinking about them is counter productive.

I think a Snake lynch is a great mislynch for scum. The only other wagons I would even consider today over kuribo are IAI first and Lance a fairly distant second. But I am going to be pushing for kuribo all day.

Let me count the ways this is bad.

1. Serial Killer hunting. We’ve pretty much established that we have two Mafia factions and a Serial Killer hanging around. Getting rid of the Serial Killer at this point is very, very Pro-Scum. It reduces cross-kill possibility (only one possible shot at scum’s faction as opposed to two) and means Town is more likely to be put in Kingmaker.
2. Calling Snake a ‘great mislynch’. Odds are pretty darn favorable that Snake is scum of some sort especially given this willingness to hop on every wagon. He’s likely NWO.
3. Parking Lance (who is probably scum) in the ‘distant’ third slot for lynching – pretty strong partner tell.

Pappums is scum and I’m not quite sure why he is ‘so Town’ to almost everyone.

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I think that scum is probably Snake, MoI's slot because of how lurky and flakey the previous were, and then his first post today "hurr durr I would've been shot if kuribo was scum ergo he's town" and possibly DMS' slot.

Snake should be today's lynch, he's basically confirmed scum.

Hurr durr there are a total of ‘maybe’ 4 scum in the game total with 2 scum factions and a Serial Killer? Nexus is scum who doesn’t want to commit to bussing and thus has artificially restricted his lynch pool.

This could be Yates crumbing the fact that he investigated IaI and found him to be NWO (as per his flip as NWO cop).

And yet Yates didn’t pursue said ‘guilty’ with any strength, didn’t ask Wrathchild to shoot, and didn’t revisit yesterday. Scummmmmmmmmmm looking for a mislynch / opposite scum lynch right here.

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[Nexus]

Hi MoI. I forgot how much of an idiot you were.

I said it "could be", not that it was. I also only named three people as my maybe scum, so why not settle the fuck down. I named you, Snake and DMS' slot. If DMS is lying, then that's 2 of 3 definites.

[Nexus]

Although you are right, I've also named Lance as probscum too.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Hi MoI. I forgot how much of an idiot you were.

Yup, you are scum. No two ways about it. I know you aren't a good player (see Star Wars Mafia as an example of your general incompetence) so for you to make it this far as you have to have partners keeping you alive. Now I just need to review your ISO and see who you have avoided calling scum to find your partners.

[kuribo]

Who else was in the QT that has been dead?

No one. I asked IS if he had neighborized anyone else, but he never answered me. He also stated that he had never been informed that I had arrived at the QT. I definitely got a PM telling me I had been neighborized with a link to the QT though. It's entirely possible that he neighborized someone else who just hasn't bothered posting in the QT.

You have exactly one post to admit this is a gambit of some sort. Otherwise I will assume you are confirming it as valid and be voting Shotgun.

It is absolutely 100% valid.

[Nexus]

Why would you be voting Shotgun when we have confirmed scum in Snake? Shotgun is an idiot. That's not indicative of his alignment.

[Sawyer]

Wow, I wish Jason would've sent out PM's after the extended Night 2.

Can anyone confirm that backup cops don't get the results of the original cop, like Kuribo says? I'm unfamiliar with the rules for backup cop. Either they get the previous results and Kuribo's lying or they don't get the results and Shotty is lying. Kuribo called Snake on targeting IS, so I'm more inclined to believe him, but if anyone can elaborate of the rules of the backup cop, that should make the lynch for today pretty clear one way or another.

[jasonT1981]

Day 4 Vote Count 1

Snake 3- kuribo, Shotty,Nexus
Kuribo 1 - PappumsRat
Lance 1 - I Am Innocent
MOI 1 - Snake

Not voting

MOI
Sawyer
Lance

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

(expired on 2012-10-03 20:23:31)

till Day 4 Deadline

[Nexus]

Wow, I wish Jason would've sent out PM's after the extended Night 2.

Can anyone confirm that backup cops don't get the results of the original cop, like Kuribo says? I'm unfamiliar with the rules for backup cop. Either they get the previous results and Kuribo's lying or they don't get the results and Shotty is lying. Kuribo called Snake on targeting IS, so I'm more inclined to believe him, but if anyone can elaborate of the rules of the backup cop, that should make the lynch for today pretty clear one way or another.

The wiki

I'd say having the back up given the original's results as a bit unbalanced and dodgy, myself.

[Nexus]

Well kuribo's post confirms it.

Anyone who insists kuribo is still anti town is a fucking idiot.

vote snake

I'm voting Snake, Jason.

[MagnaofIllusion]

It is absolutely 100% valid.

VOTE: Shotgun

@Nexus

- Because Shotgun has counter-claimed Kuribo directly in calling his Night 3 Watcher claim false. He's established a 1 v 1 with Kuribo based on that. And the ease with which the wagon sprung right on Snake is pretty damn indicative that he could possibly be Town. A scum Ninja certainly could have made that kill and scum could have blocked Snake's claimed action. Scum aren't going to bus that strongly this close to what looks like victory and thus the fact that no-one is even blinking at Shotgun's "LOL LOL LOL Kuribo is lying scum Vote Snake" routine seals it for me.

But of course you want to push that through since you are scum.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Can anyone confirm that backup cops don't get the results of the original cop, like Kuribo says? I'm unfamiliar with the rules for backup cop. Either they get the previous results and Kuribo's lying or they don't get the results and Shotty is lying. Kuribo called Snake on targeting IS, so I'm more inclined to believe him, but if anyone can elaborate of the rules of the backup cop, that should make the lynch for today pretty clear one way or another.

Nothing can be confirmed as Role-PMs indicate how powers work, not the Wiki. And frankly either you believe that one of the two is lying and should be voting for the liar. They've clearly established positions that are absolutely mutually exclusive in Kuribo saying Yates targetted IS Night 3 and Shotty saying he didn't.

[Sawyer]

The Wiki says getting the previous results is a variation, so it's possible. That aside, Kuribo was right about Snake targeting IS, so his one shot watcher invention was legit. If Snake's scum, then shotty's probably his partner. If he's town, it doesn't tell us anything. If shotty's scum, then Snake is still probably his partner, but if shotty's town, then Kuribo is scum and got lucky with his watch claim. Killing shotty tells us more, so I'm gonna go with him.

VOTE: Shotty

[SnakePlissken]

Shotty's idiotic rant has convinced me to turn my vote to him. However I'm having issue with the fact that MoI is on e wagon. Of course it possible ey are from opposite scum teams.

Unvote, Vote Shotty

Oh and Nexus mind explaining exactly how you come to the conclusion that I'm confirmed scum?

[I Am Innocent]

Claim: Cop (to determine Insiders)

Here is my crumb, which is the first letter of my first 3 posts...

Children....with rage. That is who I blame for the downfall of our society!!!

vote WrathChild

Oh, and anyone that can tell me the name of Sotty's hydra avoids my vote D9.

Pappums, what are you doing?

My investigations, which up until last night, were all 'not Insider'

N1 I investigated WrathChild, which is why I kept calling him obv town and voted Kuribo when he attacked WC.

N2 I investigated Kuribo, who is not an Insider. If Shotty is telling the truth, that means Kuribo can only be a SK, which lines up with him being bulletproof.

N3 I investigated Lance, and he came back Insider.

N2&N3 investigations were crumbed in my 1st post today.

I think it is important that we hit scum today. Hence why I am coming out now when nobody followed my earlier Lance push.

When Lance flips insider, hopefully our doc is legit and will protect me tonight.

[SnakePlissken]

Also, while I think about it, if as everyone seems to be assuming that we are running 2 scum teams and a SK/3P then with 9 of us left alive and in a game of this size it would suggest 3 men scum teams, that by deduction would mean that we have 6 anti town members running about. Which means that only 2 others of you out there are town. Noes not the time to be duped by a mislynch. Ink real hard, no one has counter claimed my Doc role. Because they can't afford to,mbecause if I'm lynched today they die tonight and whichever team they are batting for loses a member or is lynched tomorrow.

I think it's getting close to a time for a mass claim. Just seen IaI post.

Unvote, vote Lance

[Nexus]

vote Lance

That's pretty damning. I've been saying he's scum almost all game though!

[Lance]

You buttmunch. You muncher of butts.

VOTE: I Am Innocent

Just stop and think about the situation for a moment, you trigger-happy bandwagon-jumpers. There are 9 players left, and the speculation all game has been that there are two Scum groups of three members apiece plus a Serial Killer. Only one Scum player has died so far, so the remaining player list probably looks like this.

9 Players:

3 Town
3 nWo Mafia
2 Insiders Mafia
1 Serial Killer

The nWo faction is at full strength. If they lynch any of the other three groups, and if all three of them survive tonight, that leaves three of them and two other players on day five. Regardless of who those other two players are, the nWo outnumbers them and

they win.

This is a gambit. I Am Innocent is one of the nWo Mafia, and he's lying about being a Cop. He's taking this risk now because he knows that this could net his team the game. It's the only explanation that makes sense. The only question now is whether you're going to fall for it or not.

WAS TGG NOT LYING ABOUT HIS CLAIM? Lynch All Liars.

He was, yes, but for all we knew at the time, he could have just as easily been a useful Town PR who wanted to keep Scum off of his back. Accidental(?) hammer notwithstanding, I still think it's dodgy that he fessed up and Snake voted for him anyway

His posts with the pretty colours reek of scum trying their best to look town. They also aren't useful. Just fluff.

And did you think the same thing about Pidgey when he posted the original technicolor list?

[Nexus]

Yeah. Anyone who fucks around with colours is a useless waste of space. You just so happen to be caught scum as well.

[MagnaofIllusion]

The nWo faction is at full strength. If they lynch any of the other three groups, and if all three of them survive tonight, that leaves three of them and two other players on day five. Regardless of who those other two players are, the nWo outnumbers them and they win.

This is a gambit. I Am Innocent is one of the nWo Mafia, and he's lying about being a Cop. He's taking this risk now because he knows that this could net his team the game. It's the only explanation that makes sense. The only question now is whether you're going to fall for it or not.

This post has three things that make me want to lynch you.

1. There is not a single part of this that actually says his claimed result is wrong.
2. You aren't claiming said Insider Cop. Shotty, kuribo, and Snake have already claimed not to be this Cop. I’m not counter-claiming. Nexus is implicitly not counter-claiming. That leaves Pappums and Sawyer as possible counter-claims. Do you think the set-up has multiple Scum factions but a Cop for only one faction?
3. The level of Appeal to Fear in this is over the top.

At this point I am waiting to see what Sawyer and Pappums do in regards to IAI’s claim.

[kuribo]

You buttmunch. You muncher of butts.

VOTE: I Am Innocent

Just stop and think about the situation for a moment, you trigger-happy bandwagon-jumpers. There are 9 players left, and the speculation all game has been that there are two Scum groups of three members apiece plus a Serial Killer. Only one Scum player has died so far, so the remaining player list probably looks like this.

9 Players:

3 Town
3 nWo Mafia
2 Insiders Mafia
1 Serial Killer

The nWo faction is at full strength. If they lynch any of the other three groups, and if all three of them survive tonight, that leaves three of them and two other players on day five. Regardless of who those other two players are, the nWo outnumbers them and

they win.

This is a gambit. I Am Innocent is one of the nWo Mafia, and he's lying about being a Cop. He's taking this risk now because he knows that this could net his team the game. It's the only explanation that makes sense. The only question now is whether you're going to fall for it or not.

WAS TGG NOT LYING ABOUT HIS CLAIM? Lynch All Liars.

He was, yes, but for all we knew at the time, he could have just as easily been a useful Town PR who wanted to keep Scum off of his back. Accidental(?) hammer notwithstanding, I still think it's dodgy that he fessed up and Snake voted for him anyway

His posts with the pretty colours reek of scum trying their best to look town. They also aren't useful. Just fluff.

And did you think the same thing about Pidgey when he posted the original technicolor list?

IaI's claim also counters shotty's claim. Three cops? Bullshit. Bull. Shit.

Unvote

I'm willing to accept that Snake's protect may have been redirected or other shenanigans in light of this claim, but only because shotty and Lance need death first.

fuck my ass, which one needs death first, though? I really don't feel like dealing with a Kingmaker situation.

Lance's post brings up a good point, though--- Town's already outnumbered, most of you are scum, and one scum team is at full-force with the pieces set in motion for a win tomorrow.

god dammit, I'm actually gonna have to read this crap again

[kuribo]

I had meant to quote MoI with that post, not sure what the fuck happened

[Lance]

Don't let this distract you from Internet Stranger's death either. If Kuribo's watch results are true, IS was either killed by Yates or Snake -- and we know that it wasn't Yates. Snake needs rope too.

1. There is not a single part of this that actually says his claimed result is wrong.

I figured that was apparent without me coming right out and saying it. I can't comment on the validity of his first two investigations, but no, night three is wrong. I am not one of the Insiders.

2. You aren't claiming said Insider Cop. Shotty, kuribo, and Snake have already claimed not to be this Cop. I’m not counter-claiming. Nexus is implicitly not counter-claiming. That leaves Pappums and Sawyer as possible counter-claims. Do you think the set-up has multiple Scum factions but a Cop for only one faction?

If it's a claim you're looking for, I'll give you a hint: the fact that I'm still alive shows that I kind of suck at my role.

As for IAI, I'm saying that he's not a Cop at all. I'm not an investigative role either, so I don't know

what

he is, exactly. I do feel reasonably confident that he's faking his results to nail me, though.

3. The level of Appeal to Fear in this is over the top.

Okay, I'll grant you that much -- I'm panicking a little. Once again, though, fear of being lynched isn't necessarily indicative of alignment. It just means that I'm a pansy.

[MagnaofIllusion]

So what we have claimed …

IAI is claiming Cop assigned to the Insiders Faction with Innocents on Wrath (N1) and Kuribo (N2) and a Guilty on Lance (N3).

Kuribo is claiming Bulletproof (confirmed by Wrath’s N1 claim) and claims a N3 Watch on Internet Stranger that resulted in visits by both Yates and Snake.

Shotty is claiming Back-Up Cop that got all the results of Yates (N1 Inte not NWO, N2 IS not NWO, N3 Kuribo not NWO).

Snake is claiming John Cena, Town Doc with protects on Thad N1 and Nexus N2 and a failed Yates protect N3.

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IAI, Kuribo and Shotty all need to claim characters ASAP.

Sawyer and Pappums need to weigh in on the IAI claim.