===Mini 1615: Locked in the Asylum=== GAME OVER

[farside22]

phew, here was me thinking 'how the fuck is someone going to replace into a 3p lylo 52 pages game which is ending in less than 55 hours'

I hate this game.

I was happy with my read till this moment.

I blame ms for not checking me.

Fuck

[farside22]

Starting with Pere first and why I'm scum reading him.

I'd also love to hear more about what people think about the Konowa/UT neighbors. Considering the theory of this game, and the fact that we're all supposed to be connected all the time, including hearing the scum talk, I'm really going to be surprised if there's neighbors.

Pere - You mentioned drinking coffee as close to the max time as possible. What do you think of dry-fits idea of agreeing to basically auto-vote whoever has the most hypothetical votes at the time we go into evening phase?

I 'd like to hear the flavor for the nieghbors, since my impression is we're all talking over earpieces. Assuming it's true, I think it slightly higher chance of being scum/town than town/town (prob 60/40), but don;t feel the need to scumhunt in the neighborhood just yet.

I think that most of the discussion should occur in the pre-drink phase(?), and that any changes from the final pre-drink vote to the drink vote should be explained. We had a similar mechanic at least once in Politics Mafia where the final vote came after "discussion" votes.

I don't like how he approached the neighborhood and saying one was scum.

Elaborate on this please. How is his play here different from his obv-Town play in Timeshift?

I was the SK, and I had a hard townread on Anatole, who turned out to be scum. I am partial to townreading certain playstyles, and Anatole-now is different from Anatole-Timeshift, which in theory mean Anatole-now is town (because Anatole-timeshift was not), but that just seems dumb to think that, so net result is I want more and better posting from Anatole.

Not sure if that answers the question or makes sense, but there you have it.

This is fluff posting. I see players post stuff like this to be friendly and understanding and then flip scum.

Secondly, because Matt's vote during the coffee phase was too much "I know this is going to flip town, so let me get away from it". The fact that he had 0 chance of actually causing another wagon to form and lynch his target means he KNEW it was nothing more than for appearances. If he had a problem with the lynch, he should have pushed hard against it BEFORE we drank coffee. But he didn't, he pushed it hard. Only after we'd drank coffee and committed to the lynch did he back off and pursue MS.

The last 3 coffee votes came 304-305-306 within 30 minutes of each other, and pretty much an hour later there were four votes on him.
There wasn't any time to do anything before coffee was drunk other than what was already done.

Deciding that Lynx wasn't as scummy as UT doesn't seem like a thing scum-Matt would do no matter what Lynx might flip.

You have any other reason?

Noted this because of pere's read on mAtt and his excuse for not being around.

So because Matt disagreed with the bad lynch you pushed, he's scum?

Vote: Anatole Kuragin

Konowa's town.

Do you really not see how bad that post was, and why Konowa's vote was good?

Unvote
Vote: Anatole Kuragin

Given 220-268-312, yes the post was bad.
Konowa voting him does not help.
You voting him is null.

I don't get the point of this post or why Pere calls anatole null. Pere's barely said boo about anatole.

As for Anatole, I said back in day1 he looks nothing like his Timeshift game (where he was scum, and I thought he was town because he was playing/trying/etc.). Since his scum meta is *doing something*, pretty sure his doing jack-shit in this game means he's town. I'm sad it's that way, but there you have it.

This is not how you do meta.

Not doing meta so much as establishing the baseline for expectations. Meta would require multiple games, research, etc. I tend not to do that as much as I used to, because reliability issues on the conclusions.

This is the only interaction from dry fit to Pere and it's pretty weak attack from dry to Pere.
This comment from Pere and Pere was town I'd see scum try to push hard on Pere.

I'm an idiot :/

Yeah, but you're not, so I don't get this.

Weak back and forth between guy and Pere.
No push from Pere and this is the first time Pere says shit about issues with guy.

@PV: Can you flesh out your null read on MS further? Also, who are your top scum suspects right now?

I find Metal too fluffy and don't feel liek he ever scumhunts, and he started this game that way. But then he posted 134. While I disagreed with his opinion of 80, he had an opinion and articulated it.
With that said, he then goes back to posts that are all over the place.
I like that he is taking stances.
I don't like that those stances are like unto dandelions, and a slight breeze may allow them to change.

Anyways, I strongly think Konowa is scum. (392, 396). I dislike Titus and Guyett at this point, mostly for them failing to meet me expectations of them as town.

Pretty weak cases on others from Pere.

-.-


so farside or gf..........

sigh, i need to look over the game but im going to say we do a no-lynch

Thinking you as the last scum.

Vote: ika

But, due diligence to come, just in case rose-colored glasses.

Then we have the only choice Pere could make on a player he never said boo about.

Most of the game Pere only went after Konowa and I don't ever recall Pere tunneling this much....ever.

[farside22]

hmmmmm....

guyett/sonic/PV?

VOTE: guyette

can we do metal next? i wont be around for this and i dont trust anyone

farside is town for starting the counterwagon

i am thinking both of those wagons that started off were town as well

i think MS

im thinking its titus/sonic or at least one of them

truth be told, i have paied like no attentiont o much after the lynch went though, i only pay attention to the 48 hr deadline march (which is what im used to)

oddly enought the only thing that sticks out after isoing guyyet is that ak is probally town and that titus is most likely the scum buddy based off interactions

1v1 is the dumbest thing ever.

then dont vote me. i will 1v1 you

we could always do ak again

LOL. :-p

your 1v1ing me right now when we go to coffie

like, someone misspells the word "families" in the QT. that should be damning enough for ika

doesnt see you voting for coffie or me and that your enitre case resides on that one point is pathetic

get to doing it first then i can move on with my life

@titus, its not brilliance tbh, its stupid he just used the cop unorthoxdily

you should know by fucking now that no matter what your role is, if you scum read me i go full agro 1v1 with you. even if you had a revealed ic role i would still 1v1 you.

parker should know this by now that no matter what role you are, you dont scum read me

pedti: VOTE: ika

lets do me first plz

nah

im gonna move on with life

VOTE: vonflare

anyone want to put up the idea we have GF if sonic is sane invesgative?

Dammit ika hammered me, then voted another person. What scummy play.

VOTE: vonflare

i can put it right back where it should be if you want to potshot me

VOTE: flare

if he tracker i douct theres doc

Okay so looking at ika the things I don't like is the 1vs1 comments or how he switched reads.
His interaction with vonflare was fine.
Didn't like the scum trying to start a counter wagon in me.

The biggest thing is ms didn't check me it ika and ika does mention the gf posdiblity.

I have to run out but this will stay till I can think

[ika]

you ddont have to really convince me on PV scum right now.

im scum reading him too.

[PeregrineV]

if PV thinks im still the final scum i want him to build the entire case based of my predacetor and not me.

i would love to see him build the case based off the slot and not me

I'll be looking over both of you.

[farside22]

you ddont have to really convince me on PV scum right now.

im scum reading him too.

Why did you vote for yourself?

[ika]

why not?

[ika]

but there is a reason but im going to wait on PV

[shos]

THIS IS AN OFFICIAL VOTECOUNT LOL

THIS GAME IS ENDING SOON, GUYS!

There are now 3 people alive, so it takes 2 votes to move onto coffee phase, and in it, 2 votes to lynch.

It is now Day 7.
Morning minimum protocol of 3 days ends in

(expired on 2014-12-09 03:12:13)

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THE GAME ENDS IN:

(expired on 2014-12-11 03:12:13)

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OFFICIAL VOTES FOR COFFEE:

ika, farside22

<<<HAMMER>>>

UNOFFICIAL VOTES FOR AN UNOFFICIAL LYNCH:

ika (1) - ika

Not voting (2) - farside22, PeregrineV.

[farside22]

Okay then

[ika]

well we need to get a vote going and im not going to be the one fucking it up

[farside22]

well we need to get a vote going and im not going to be the one fucking it up

*cant tell if serious*

[ika]

farside im going to be fucking blunt:

im 100% fucking serious we have about 2 fuckign days and im not goign to be the one fuckignt hsi lylo up.

YOU MOVE YOUR FUCKING VOTE ONTO SOMEONE OR WE CAN SIT THE FUCK HERE AND WAIT FOR THE FUCKIGN DEADLINE

[ika]

i fucking hate lylo situations, i hate being the one fucking it up, i fucking hate this stupidity of cop cleared vs town via play.

last game this happened i had to fuckign argue with gernaric about this entire fiasco and im not going to paly this damn agme again where i get all pissed off

[farside22]

Sigh

Vote: Pere

If I'm wrong I blame Pere and ms.

[ika]

im waiting on PV first.

im not hammering

[ika]

i want PV to now.

[farside22]

Well I'm relieved.
I'll be pissed if I have to argue for 2 days against pv

[ika]

dont worry PV already have my vote half on him due to the fact he was going to build the first case on me

now he has to agrue why you are it to me

[ika]

im going iso diving....

[farside22]

dont worry PV already have my vote half on him due to the fact he was going to build the first case on me

now he has to agrue why you are it to me

fun.

Don't expect me to engage in the argument.
Last time I was in lylo as town I think was the time I got so emotional I switched votes onto the other player for being a dumb ass.

[ika]

i dont, i had the saem exact thing before. i know what its like to be the final town who knows it and just piss at them trying to convince them.

im isoing scums right nwo for associative telss to either of you.

[ika]

PV had about 24 hrs to post his case otherwise im hammering.

[shos]

Bumpity

[shos]

bump!