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Manuel didn't slip it, if you believe that he thought he could've been targeted then he has to be town

Which is probably true anyway but yeah

aside from being able to phone follow.

Please don't speedlynch me w/o first letting me post my reads and/or a defense. Thnks

In post 1285, Infinity 324 wrote:@manuel If you aren't gonna be killed tonight why would you have been killed last night?

i wont say anything that helps scum figure it out for yourself.

In post 1285, Infinity 324 wrote: The gamma read is simple. He's doing random shit without concern to how it looks imo.

In post 1052, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 1046, Infinity 324 wrote:@s_s Let's talk about gamma. I forget why exactly you scumread him, but there is little doubt in my mind that he's town. He's playing very similarly to his town game, specifically he doesn't give a flying fuck about looking town.

I don't see that at all. How can you say that 951, 953, 993, 997, and 1020 (just to quote some of the more recent ones) are not interested in looking town?

VOTE: JarJarDrinks

Ok. I see how some of those things can be construed as LAMOST (though I'd like 993 and 1020 o be explain) but I can also see how they could easily be genuine town feelings and thoughts, especially for gamma who tends to overreact to stuff imo. Here are the posts where gamma doesn't seem concerned at all with how he's perceived, but don't seem to have much in any scum motivation behind them.

In post 269, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 261, JarJarDrinks wrote:not a fan of mathblades page 6

- Voting Dunn is terrible.
- as is townreading Gamma
- Defending transcend AND creature! WTF?

Do you have me as null or scum?

Could easily be construed as defensiveness but not something that scum benefits from posting

In post 414, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 409, Zachstralkita wrote:I can tell you with certainty you're wrong on one of three of those, and that one is me

So you are saying S_S is scum, as Math is right about him and Dunn?

In post 433, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 432, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 414, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 409, Zachstralkita wrote:I can tell you with certainty you're wrong on one of three of those, and that one is me

So you are saying S_S is scum, as Math is right about him and Dunn?

This looks like it was leading somewhere; how would you have followed this up if he had responded yes?

I would have slapped a vote on him.

Random reaction test that doesn't benefit scum, but could hurt him because it looks weird

In post 524, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'm not getting any scumreads. Just a whole lotta bullshit.

In post 564, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 561, Infinity 324 wrote:

In post 553, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 551, XnadrojX wrote:Has JarJar talked? Like as in anything of significance?

How much of the game have you read

Let's lynch creature

Willing to join this wagon. Definitely looks like Micro 647.
VOTE: Creature

In post 658, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 633, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 377, Gamma Emerald wrote:Meh I think Creature feels a bit lynchbaity.

In post 564, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 561, Infinity 324 wrote:

In post 553, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 551, XnadrojX wrote:Has JarJar talked? Like as in anything of significance?

How much of the game have you read

Let's lynch creature

Willing to join this wagon. Definitely looks like Micro 647.
VOTE: Creature

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

These 2 can go together right?

Scum aren't this oblivious to thing that can make them look bad usually

In post 667, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 665, Transcend wrote:

In post 662, XnadrojX wrote:I have a little time now and read the game properly, Transcend, Infinity324, iraonavp, and MathBlade are Town,

Slight suspicion on AlpacaAlpaca and JarJar.

And,
VOTE: Zachstralkita for now.

and votes Zach, the leading bw????

VOTE: XnadrojX

yeah i've had bad feelings about this slot all game.

Agreed,

so

agreed.
VOTE: XnadrojX

In post 678, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 676, Dunnstral wrote:VOTE: Gamma Emerald

HAHAHA you fuck. This dude threw shade at Transcend, didn't vote him, and then voted me for following Transcend and calling him out on his actions. This is scum.
VOTE: Dunnstral

In post 691, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 690, Transcend wrote:your feud is tvt

cease it

I'm feeling this way too. Dunn's logic is justified.
VOTE: XnadrojX

Vote hopping which is a scumtell for some but serves no purpose for a scum!gamma

In post 996, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah ISOing Creature I see too much meta crap. Feels like he's just trying to make excuse reads.

After voting and unvoiting creature this is weird as hell but it would've been easy to go back to his earlier reason

In post 1125, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 1120, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 1119, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 1110, Dunnstral wrote:I knew infinity was scum. I had a feeling.

VOTE: Infinity324

What is meant by this?

Not some kind of secret message. Shouldn't be too hard to understand

I'm saying infinity is the bad guy

HRRRMMM
I'll go with you for now.
VOTE: Infinity 324
AND WE AREN'T DONE MANUEL

In post 1181, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 1177, Dunnstral wrote:VOTE: Transcend
I knew it

Gamma Emerald wrote:Two people(Dunnstral and Zachstralkita) have both made serious allegations against two other people(Infinity324 and Transcend, respectively). I want arguments from both sides why your suspect is the better lynch.

I don't recall SERIOUS ALLEGATIONS in play. Don't ask me to push your counter wagon

I'M NOT THE ONE BEING WAGONED, IT'S INFINITY.
However, since you decided to switch, I guess I will too.
VOTE: Transcend
inb4 Manuel/MathBlade gets on my case for switching.

Yeah if scum!gamma was scared about being called out he just wouldn't do it

It'd be so easy to come up with a reason of his own but he doesn't because he doesn't care about how he looks

In post 1294, Gamma Emerald wrote:Reads:
Manuel is town now unless a vig kill pops up
Zach, Dunn, ira, Transcend town
Infinity, Math, Dong null
xNadr, JarJar scum
VOTE: xNadrojx
Most confident about this flipping scum

And more switching

I'm not huge on LAMIST as a tell anyway, but LAMISS (look at me I'm so scum) is generally a strong towntell for me. And it seems like gamma's done quite a bit of both

But all the posts of gamma's you take issue with seem to be "you did this thing that doesn't make sense from town POV, you must be scum" when really he just did something weird and it's not scum-motivated at all. Just try to think about what gamma's objective is from a scum perspective in making those posts.

You should just tell me if you're not willing to change your mind though, since if you're not there's no point in having this discussion. I made up my mind, I think gamma's town, I probably won't change that opinion. I've had this discussion with other people before that were sure gamma was scum and I turned out to be right. (Remember zyf, gamma?)

Yes I remember Zyf. He was a headache and a half, mostly because I was always behind him in posting.

LOL

Also I was right Manuel's tunnel did interfere with his ability to play the game.

LAMIST, LAMOST = ?

Look at me I'm so town, and a type of LAMIST

@Infinity: You are basically saying the amount of scumtells he has in his Iso is a towntell.
I disagree on the Misrep on Zach. He was throwing shade on Zach before that as well and he was pressured at that point.
A wrong answer could have put even more pressure on Zach.

@Gamma: This doesnt mean i am townreading you you are null at best. And only because there cant be more then 3 scum.
But i admit that i missed something important because of my push on you.

I think JarJar or Jordan should be the lynch today.

If JarJar is scum then one of (but not both) Transcend and Gamma likely partners (with last being Infinity) being the team. If JarJar is town then it is likely JarJar was mislynch bait to avoid lynching Jordan. Long story short one of Jar Jar or Jordan likely scum and Transcend and Infinity probs scum. Don't like Gamma's posting either. This entire day people have been dropping pants as if they were allergic Jesus.

I have a long day at work today but will try to post more later tonight as I V/LA for weekends.

In post 1310, Manuel87 wrote:@Infinity: You are basically saying the amount of scumtells he has in his Iso is a towntell.
I disagree on the Misrep on Zach. He was throwing shade on Zach before that as well and he was pressured at that point.
A wrong answer could have put even more pressure on Zach.

That's a very shallow interpretation of my post. I'm saying that scum!gamma wouldn't continuously do things that other people would likely perceive as scummy, if they have no specific benefit to him. "Scumtells", in my opinion, are relative and depend on the situation, but not everyone sees them that way. Therefore it's likely that someone would've called out gamma for votehopping, even though in this case it's unlikely that votehopping would help scum!gamma.

With the misrep reaction test, that's fair, but I don't think scum!gamma would've expected town!zach to answer wrong. Though you're right that there is a possibility scum!gamma used that to try to get an excuse to push zach more, I think it's more likely that town!gamma was just trying something random in the hopes it lead somewhere.

that bp claim was oh my god awful

also wtf are we doing? lycnh jjd then xnadrojx who I agree is the scummiest player in this game

you should not have claimed bp unless you intended to doubt the integrity of my claim. and you are not voting me, so I don't think that is the case.

the purpose of that role is to get shot at, you know.

Your claim was misguiding town into believing Transcend got saved or was the killer i had to claim so town doesnt argue in the wrong direction.
I suggest you reread the day and start thinking again.

We were doing fine. Now there's a clusterfuck again.

Whatever you gained from that, we have lost more. Because you saw what I set into motion, possibly saw what I risked, and... still decided to do that.

I don't see how the town being misguided could potentially lead to any worse outcome than a normal day could(lynching town).

Well unless there's a vigilante Manuel is clear. That's one thing we gained: a constant pro-town influence.
...NOW DON'T GO SCREWING IT UP BY LEADING ON ME!

In post 1317, Zachstralkita wrote:Whatever you gained from that, we have lost more. Because you saw what I set into motion, possibly saw what I risked, and... still decided to do that.

I don't see how the town being misguided could potentially lead to any worse outcome than a normal day could(lynching town).

You realize your claim was questioning the scumread we have do you?

vla till sunday

VOTE: JarJarDrinks

L-2

UNVOTE:

not being responsible for 2 speedlynches

Ceci n'est pas une bump.