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Yeah you aren't making it personal at all dude.

I have already offered not to commute tonight.

Chick wont be able to use the neighbor until night 2.

Wait really?

Then lightning rod me. Anyone with an ability including vigs if they want can shoot me. I don't care. Its better than this.

1277 is a mean post and I would really enjoy a game where LLD went with me to lylo

In post 1302, Formerfish wrote:Chick wont be able to use the neighbor until night 2.

Nah she can use it N1. In fact, only N1

In post 1302, Formerfish wrote:Chick wont be able to use the neighbor until night 2.

This is wrong, isn't it? It's the night after it is received according to the post

In post 1305, Pine wrote:

In post 1302, Formerfish wrote:Chick wont be able to use the neighbor until night 2.

Nah she can use it N1. In fact, only N1

Thats not how i read it, ill need to look back at what made me think that.

Vigging LLD and having a real lynch today is indeed better EV than mislynching her, and I think it's a mislynch

In post 400, Pine wrote:This shot must be used the night after it is received.

I think the phrase night after made me think that it was recieved in the night.

So Chick will have the fruit given to her during the day?

In post 1308, popsofctown wrote:Vigging LLD and having a real lynch today is indeed better EV than mislynching her, and I think it's a mislynch

If LLD is a mislynch then what wagon was she the counter to?

In post 1309, Formerfish wrote:

In post 400, Pine wrote:This shot must be used the night after it is received.

I think the phrase night after made me think that it was recieved in the night.

So Chick will have the fruit given to her during the day?

I’ll give it to her either when our bargain is complete or during post-lynch twilight

In post 1310, Formerfish wrote:

In post 1308, popsofctown wrote:Vigging LLD and having a real lynch today is indeed better EV than mislynching her, and I think it's a mislynch

If LLD is a mislynch then what wagon was she the counter to?

This is some sort of logical fallacy. Too lazy to identify it. False tautology maybe?

In post 1310, Formerfish wrote:

In post 1308, popsofctown wrote:Vigging LLD and having a real lynch today is indeed better EV than mislynching her, and I think it's a mislynch

If LLD is a mislynch then what wagon was she the counter to?

One why can't both wagons be town
Two I am not lynched yrt and there isnt only two options so there isnt really a counter wagon
Three JJH is scum

In post 1310, Formerfish wrote:

In post 1308, popsofctown wrote:Vigging LLD and having a real lynch today is indeed better EV than mislynching her, and I think it's a mislynch

If LLD is a mislynch then what wagon was she the counter to?

I don't know. That's not usually way I think about mafia. Since it's not guaranteed to be a valid model all the time, I don't see a reason to adopt this model either.

Pedit: it's called false dilemma

It's actually just running with the false assumption that all mislynches are counterwagons

Ok, thanks for the clarification.

So the idea is that if LLD allows herself to be neighborized by chick that LLD would be more town than not?

pedit- not even sure what that means and have no drive to look it up. Pops says that LLD is town and we are mislynching her, logic would state that somehow her wagon gained traction and could have been around the decrease in scrutiny that a slot was receiving. I dont know who yet because i havent looked, but the fact that you felt it necessary to respond to that makes me think i might have hit a nerve.

VOTE: Unvote

Chick neighbourising LLD would be dumb

What does that tell us? That LLD isn't ascetic?

Yes. It proves my role and commuter is not scum.

In post 1318, jjh927 wrote:What does that tell us? That LLD isn't ascetic?

Which is an important distinction - scum ascetic might claim Commuter to explain non-kill shots failing while discouraging kill attempts

It tells us she is a commuter exactly. Her initial claim risked a universe where motion detector hard guilties her and bugs can shoot her for options select.

No to both of those things

In post 1313, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:One why can't both wagons be town
Two I am not lynched yrt and there isnt only two options so there isnt really a counter wagon
Three JJH is scum

1. Im not saying you arent both town. Maybe the way i phrased the question was off, and should have asked about his view on the other wagons. I havent even looked myself yet, just had the idea and wanted to get it down before i lost it cause im high

2. If 1 of the established wagons was seeing some gain in traction and then you suddenly jump to the head of the class for the lynch today I would like to see where and why that happened exactly. I know I was on your wagon, but Ice made what I thought was a good point about your role. I dont entirely tr or sr either of you, its too early and i remember not reading Ice well in past games.

3. Not as convinced as you are, not interested in that being a lynch today.

Vigilantes not bugs obviously