Mini Normal 2132 [Game Over]

[Creature]

What is the likelihood we're looking at a 3-man team?

Wtf is that a serious question?

[Creature]

Oh right, saw just now Wake claiming watcher and dave claiming doctor

[davesaz]

Thanks for that reminder that the question on scumteam size looked fake to me, given that it's quite common knowledge that ratios in normals are very normalized.

[bob3141]

3 hours to deadline.

creature is at l-2

[bob3141]

l-1 one i mean

[Morning Tweet]

I believe that on the premise of *not voting early on the partner* is basically something that is making me feel good about Wake and Gamma right now.

Sigh

They're both RVS votes. gamma went very inactive after the vote, and then revoted tictac-Chem to L-1, forgetting he already voted the slot

[HoldenGolden]

Anyone objects to a hammer?

[Morning Tweet]

Also yes it is a bus

\(≧▽≦)/

So i take it you dont find it to be SvS like aaron did?

[Morning Tweet]

Hang on just a moment Holden i havent gotten a chance to read all of it just yet

[davesaz]

I had a hammer all typed in but you came up in pedit.

[Morning Tweet]

Pedit: then provide us with info. You seem to hold hectic in townie regards given you asking him if posts looked like dodging, care to explain the town read? How much have you read of the game?

I want to know if tictac (or was it Chemist?) seemed to be dodging interactions with Hectic

they dodged interactions with almost every slot i think, wouldn't be able to point one out specifically

I also think Aloratom is town and the reason is somewhere in my ISO

yay!

pedit: :O

[HoldenGolden]

Hang on just a moment Holden i havent gotten a chance to read all of it just yet

[Morning Tweet]

am i gonna be able to persuade both of you to join gamma or is that a fruitless quest? i have more to read but i dont want you guys to have to wait for me either

[HoldenGolden]

I have no issues waiting. I need more convincing to lynch gamma if you want me to go that way.

I only will hammer if we need to (IE time about to run out)

[Morning Tweet]

Can we get some votes for Creature (the Aaron slot)? I feel like Creature’s current approach is a scum one, trying to avoid making waves

I agree with this actually. This has felt like scum!Creature so far since replacing in.

VOTE: Creature

oh my god is this another meta thing

[Morning Tweet]

I'm not sure im confident enough in myself to change the lynch anyway. Creatures entrance actually looked kinda good to me, but i cant really disprove it coming from a good scum player, and i dont know this meta case. that and aaron is on my off-wagon scum list

[Morning Tweet]

Votecount 1.03

Hectic (2): AaronFrost, bob3141
HoldenGolden (2): SirCakez, Morning Tweet
tictac (2): Wake88, Gamma Emerald
bob3141 (2): Aloratom, Hectic
Morning Tweet (2): HoldenGolden, Cat Scratch Fever
Aloratom (1): tictac
AaronFrost (1): profii
Cat Scratch Fever (0):
profii (0):
Wake88 (0):
Gamma Emerald (0):
davesaz (0):
SirCakez (0):

Not Voting: davesaz

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to lynch.

The day will end in (expired on 2020-04-20 11:30:00).

Quick note: Gamma was the second to vote tictac(Chemist), do we believe he would've bussed his partner here that early in a game with 13 players ?

I don't think so.

*screaming*

[Morning Tweet]

I think if Creatures play has been inherently scummy and theres something about it that im unable to see meta-wise, then im fine with it. I would very much prefer a Gamma lynch, but i also dont have creature-Aaron in my town block + others have their own reasonings. Although I think everyone (except Holden's) reasoning for defending Gamma "He voted early!" is not a reason to clear him

i have to leave again, im finished reading now. i might not be able to be online for a few hours, so good luck

[davesaz]

I agree that being an early game voter on a wagon that was on scum isn't clearing. Scum who RVS or otherwise vote partners early and then are inactive for much of the middle of the day can find themselves trapped on the wagon, where it looks scummier to get off than it does to stay on.

Creature doing nothing positive for town plus nothing meant to prevent his lynch is scum indicative both generally speaking and for him meta-wise.

It's entirely possible this is a case of SVS wagons, and the swing to AF on D1 was town motivated. That scenario would also explain why Chemist stayed on Aloratom.
VOTE: Creature

[Hectic]

(%_%)

I think this is fine.

[clidd]

I'm back.

[clidd]

I intended to hammer him, as I mentioned earlier. We still had 1 hour before the deadline to talk, but ok.

[davesaz]

We can still talk until it's locked.
What do you think about everyone? Have you had much chance to look at stuff?

[clidd]

I believe that on the premise of *not voting early on the partner* is basically something that is making me feel good about Wake and Gamma right now.

Sigh

They're both RVS votes. gamma went very inactive after the vote, and then revoted tictac-Chem to L-1, forgetting he already voted the slot

Yes, precisely. What you mentioned just reinforces a towny mindset of

Town!Gamma

forgetting (distracted) the vote, than necessarily

Scum!Gamma

pretending to forget. In my experience, scum players tend to pay more attention to who they are voting for.

I think if Creatures play has been inherently scummy and theres something about it that im unable to see meta-wise, then im fine with it. I would very much prefer a Gamma lynch, but i also dont have creature-Aaron in my town block + others have their own reasonings. Although I think everyone (except Holden's) reasoning for defending Gamma "He voted early!" is not a reason to clear him

i have to leave again, im finished reading now. i might not be able to be online for a few hours, so good luck

Hum, we are not advocating that Gamma is necessarily ''clear'' because of a single event. The inference I made is an interpretation I had of the intention of voting that he had in the RVS, which possibly evidenced the lack of planning, because unless the strategy points to a hard-buss about the context of towny credibility, hardly a scum vote for his partner. The purpose of RVS for scumteam is not to be apathetic about the game, but to promote interactions with slots towns to achieve two objectives: 1- Town opinion (activity) and 2- fishing PRs. Considering the limited time I had to read the game, this observation was an effort to be as accurate as possible in my personal PoE with basic information.

[clidd]

We can still talk until it's locked.
What do you think about everyone? Have you had much chance to look at stuff?

It doesn't work anymore, the lynch has already occurred, we have pressure 0 at the moment. I will wait for the result.