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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:20 pm
by Datisi
Vote count 1.34

with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-07-07 13:00:00)


execution
Wug (1):
DkKoba
SleeperSoul (1):
Deimos27
PookyTheMagicalBear (1):
Alduskkel
DkKoba (1):
DonCorleone


not voting (5):
Klick, Clover Ebi, SleeperSoul, PookyTheMagicalBear, Wug


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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:20 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
the only reason you would go for lynching on-coalition is if you're pretty damn sure there are 2 scum on coalition

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:20 pm
by DkKoba
my biggest fears were teams with:

Deimos/Aldu
DonC/Deimos
DonC/Wug
Deimos/Wug
Aldu/Wug

like I had these team reads that all made sense to me and putting them all outside the coalition from my point of view made most sense to me.

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:21 pm
by DkKoba
In post 1301, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:the only reason you would go for lynching on-coalition is if you're pretty damn sure there are 2 scum on coalition

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:21 pm
by DonCorleone
In post 1298, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:look the way to play this game after coalition fail is very simple.

If you lynch someone on the coalition - they flip scum - the other scum could be anywhere.

If you lynch someone off the coalition - they flip scum - this clears the other 3 off-coalition players and you can focus on the coalition with 3 guaranteed town players ( tho 1 will probably get shot at night)
We are never lynching off coalition until scum has flipped inside because we have CONFIRMED SCUM inside and there could be 2 inside, while it’s possible there are none outside

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:21 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 1297, DonCorleone wrote:
In post 1272, DkKoba wrote:also I guess this means my theory was probably correct and Klick/Votato slot is scum :/
@pooky
ok yea but he's not going for Klick right now - he's going for Wugs so you don't even know if that's a true-thought or not

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:22 pm
by DkKoba
Don just let the scum hang machine go brrrr and get Wug thanks

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:22 pm
by DonCorleone
We are never fucking lynching outside of coalition where there is confirmed scum and quite frankly it’s dumb as fuck to suggest we should

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:22 pm
by DonCorleone
Like I don’t even want to call it scummy, it’s just fucking stupid

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:22 pm
by DkKoba
I'd rather not go for Klick as if wug is town that clears him based on the theory I have

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:23 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 1304, DonCorleone wrote:We are never lynching off coalition until scum has flipped inside because we have CONFIRMED SCUM inside and there could be 2 inside, while it’s possible there are none outside
ok i'll think about that for a night

I really don't think we have more than 1 scum on coalition. everyone feels so clean to me except Clover - and even clover is at best null for me.

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:23 pm
by DonCorleone
Cool, nobody cares, we’re flipping you

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:23 pm
by DonCorleone
That was clearly @koba

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:24 pm
by Klick
DkKoba wrote:if I'm scum I was going to bring you into the coalition you dink. I literally put you in the pile that cleared you of being partners with anyone outside the coalition with you.
In post 1120, DkKoba wrote:
In post 1118, Klick wrote:I got the opposite vibe - I didn't like 1103 much at all. It felt out of place compared to their complaints about inactivity.

DK, can I ask how you'd play this spot as scum? and how that contrasts your current play? I figure you know how to read you better than any of us
I have no idea :lol: personally I'd try to get both my partner and I on the coalition but thats about it.
VOTE: DkKoba

@all: we're lynching on coalition until we lynch scum. Everyone on-coalition has a 30% chance of being scum at base-level; everyone off-coalition has a 12.5% chance of being scum (and there might not be scum at all there).

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:25 pm
by DonCorleone
Koba:
>comes in
>hard spam posts very little of content totally fossilising the game
>insists he must be in the coalition
>refuses to reconsider any evidence once the coalition has reached a certain point of stasis
>immediately re-enters someone into his lynchpool once the coalition passes
>actively trying to find a way out of optimal play from the moment the coalition failed, and was trying to set this up from before it failed

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:26 pm
by DonCorleone
Also, the only game that was lost of coalition so far was one where scum were in the coalition and widely TR which is how they managed to set the game up that way

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:26 pm
by DkKoba
DC you don't sound like you are trying to gamesolve rn and just want to hang anyone you can.

Are you against gaining 3 clears? are you that scared of hanging a scumread outside of the coalition?
in the coaltion you have 1/5 chance if you read only 1 mafia in it.
outside its 1/4

so either you townread all the slots outside or you have reason to believe both scum got onto the coaltion.

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:26 pm
by DkKoba
optimal play is to create 3 clears outside the coalition if its a possibility.

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:27 pm
by DonCorleone
In post 1316, DkKoba wrote:DC you don't sound like you are trying to gamesolve rn and just want to hang anyone you can.
No, just you

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:27 pm
by DonCorleone
In post 1317, DkKoba wrote:optimal play is to create 3 clears outside the coalition if its a possibility.
No it’s fucking not

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:27 pm
by DonCorleone
Your optimal play as scum is to try and get us to lynch outside the coalition, it’s not fucking happening

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:28 pm
by DonCorleone
I don’t give a fuck what you say, we’re lynching you and there’s no way in fucking shit that we’re lynching outside of the coalition until scum has flipped inside

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:28 pm
by DonCorleone
Because if both scum ARE inside, which is what you LITERALLY SAID YOUR PLAY WOULD BE then lynching outside for ~*3 clears guys*~ would just be losing

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:29 pm
by DonCorleone
You had your turn at running the game. If you’re scum, fair play but it ends here. If you’re town, you failed and you need to get the fuck out of the way and let someone competent take over, which in this case will be me

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:29 pm
by DkKoba
So you are just going to stubbornly ignore the logic I have presented about having a solid scumread outside the coalition creating clears?