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In post 1299, Aristophanes wrote:Happy scum day beeboy o7

have you read anything yet

In post 1300, catboi wrote:

In post 1299, Aristophanes wrote:Happy scum day beeboy o7

have you read anything yet

I've read what I have responded to, so no.

I can tomorrow probably but maybe monday

okay just checking. if you want to ask me anything go ahead this game is dead and no one's doing anything so i'll talk to anyone who'll give me their time

Ok so I think from my POE.

Mastina and Chemist are probably town.
I think Panzer is town by play? Probably still a 3p tbh but whatever.


I think Tipsy was playing to her scum meta, I am not saying I am any better but it's kinda what happened.
And I am not going to pretend that's not the case.

I think Titus is playing _like_ scum but the vig claim mostly self resolves anyway.
Do we know why she is apparently a vig but we only saw 1 kill day 1?

Mastina's read on me stems from the fact I thought she was playing like shit and nothing to do with my play.
But you know whatever, I'll move on.

My main thing is this game has sort of reached a point where I don't think scum are particularly motivated to do anything. Tipsy had to self vote so was that wagon really driven by multiple scum then a self vote? Wtf were we doing as town at that point? lmao.

So while some team comp of like {MariaR, Tipsy, DK, Catboi} makes sense to me. I just am not feeling it cause wolves aren't actually motivated to push anyone.
So I can say for sure we have more then 1 wolf on Shiro even if he had almost no competition.

I am kind of waiting on Chemist for guideness to help me further some kind of baseline.

Panzer can be a 3p that is just going to push whatever he deems a threat. He could honestly still be mafia.
Mastina is pushing me for the basis of I didn't like her play, so that doubles as my opinion on the rest of her reads.


Catboi to some degree was a counter wagon to Shiro which is why I am hard pressed to trust him I guess.

And Aristophanes is doing nothing to change my mind on Tipsy.
So I don't really have a good reason to vote off.

Does Tipsy have a town case beyond Mastina doesn't like me and I want to vote for him?

In post 1303, beeboy wrote:I think Tipsy was playing to her scum meta, I am not saying I am any better but it's kinda what happened.
And I am not going to pretend that's not the case.

can you possibly explain this in any more detail? this is extremely vague.

I think Tipsy is more inclined to lurk out as scum relative to town.
Scum is the alignment they enjoy less, they got off a really rough rand in Lunacy and Why Gun?? and are feeling burned out from mafia. l think not being able to force themselves through the game is scum indicative.

I think their town read on me was because I don't expect them to misread me not because it was a genuine read.
Since I am not actually playing to my town meta right now. I am playing to neither of my metas really but I think that would breed more confusion then a town read.

Idk the unexplained town read on me was really off putting to me.

they didn't seem that lurky and their reads were where i was at at the time, if you had an issue with that read why not ask them about it when they were still in the game

I didn't care initially because I was like "ahh I'll take it".
Apathy breeds complacency I guess?

Do you have a reason to town read the slot because I couldn't even tell you who came before Tipsy in all honesty.

In post 1305, beeboy wrote:I am kind of waiting on Chemist for guideness to help me further some kind of baseline.

Why would you do this are you actually scum

(sorry it's midnight i'll try to have stuff tomorrow)

In post 1311, beeboy wrote:Do you have a reason to town read the slot because I couldn't even tell you who came before Tipsy in all honesty.

not strongly but a lot of their views on the game were similar to my own and they didn't want to lynch me day 1 and i am infallibly weak to to that given the stubborn shittiness of the votes against me. i'm not sure i see a reasonable team that fits with tipsy's slot at this point.

I might end up needing to replace out, we shall see

Is there any way we can make this game be fastpaced?

In post 1317, Creature wrote:Is there any way we can make this game be fastpaced?

Someone has to take charge IMO.

We have two conftown who are reluctant to do so or are behind. Well mastina's perpetually behind, so I'm trying to let her catch up to the end. She's the closest thing to a recommendation for my vig shot tonight atm. I just want a pool of three to shoot from someone whom I feel is a solid town voice. Hell, even the suspicious people aren't voicing opinions. The game has just stalled.

Who are the conftown?

In post 1304, beeboy wrote:Mastina's read on me stems from the fact I thought she was playing like shit and nothing to do with my play.

Oh it is entirely to do with my play, including how I was never playing like shit and how I felt you would be aware I wasn't. But aside from that. You've been a scumread from everything you have, and critically, haven't done, so no, the read is not centric to me, even if your treatment of me contributes to the read. There's plenty to suspect you for outside of your treatment of me.

In post 1304, beeboy wrote:Tipsy had to self vote so was that wagon really driven by multiple scum then a self vote? Wtf were we doing as town at that point? lmao.

Tipsy did not self-vote. That was Battle Mage.

In post 1306, beeboy wrote:And Aristophanes is doing nothing to change my mind on Tipsy. So I don't really have a good reason to vote off.

You absolutely should, because you've played with Ari before and should know that this is town-indicative of him.

In post 1306, beeboy wrote:Does Tipsy have a town case beyond Mastina doesn't like me and I want to vote for him?

Sure does! Tipsy's entire iso is filled to the brim with gamesolving and shows original thought processes that, while not exactly entirely unique, were still clearly Tipsy's own thoughts, not copying mine for instance.

The pushes have all been in good places, the spouts Tipsy had with players all looked good and Tipsy in those spouts always came out looking better than their counterpart (not that that was too hard when said counterparts were BM and Panzer, butstill).

The burden of proof is on the accuser, not the defender, so what is the case for Tipsy?

In post 1319, Titus wrote:

In post 1317, Creature wrote:Is there any way we can make this game be fastpaced?

Someone has to take charge IMO. We have two conftown who are reluctant to do so or are behind. Well mastina's perpetually behind, so I'm trying to let her catch up to the end. She's the closest thing to a recommendation for my vig shot tonight atm. I just want a pool of three to shoot from someone whom I feel is a solid town voice. Hell, even the suspicious people aren't voicing opinions. The game has just stalled.

I already gave you that pool.
Since you won't shoot yourself, my pool is precisely:
{Panzer, beeboy, catboi}, with the understanding that IF you shoot catboi and IF catboi flips town I'll immediately lynch you for it because you're asking me for three names when I really only have two, and will never have more than those two, because the majority of the game is townreads. (And I am skeptical of you being a town vig, and you taking the easy option of shooting catboi the slot that is probably mislynch bait rather than shooting scum, would be what a scum vig would do.)

(And, notably, if catboi flips town, Creature's slot is basically conftown, which is another reason that catboi's slot is the requested third.)

I want to lynch either Panzer or beeboy.

Chemist is town; MariaR is town; Aristophanes is town; the one and ONLY way Creature could be scum is if catboi were scum and in literally every other scenario, is town.

jks has become a reasonable, but not infallible, townread. DK and catboi are both on the town side of null, but are the townreads I'd most likely be wrong about.

I'm not sure I want to wagon a cop claim D2 tbh

I also think we should give titus a pool of two at most because 3 gives way too much space for her to hit a town if she's scum here