Mafiascum.net

In post 1298, petapan wrote:in the simple proposition, i've been more town, pook hasn't.

mb think about what role would play like "more town"


a child that wants to hide themselves because they r worried about being NKed

or a mafia that needs to look good at endgame.

Do some critical thinking about the motivations of each role in the game.

the entire point of trying to play town is so i dont get run up and outed as a child on the assumption i could be the town child

people avoiding a player who hast done anything is going to give away tells

Of the 2 scum, only one of them is really "endgamable" - it is the one that won't commit suicide upon death of the child.

Let's call these scum LoveScum and EndgameScum.

LoveScum is a liability, they are attached to a child that is on the town side. If the scum kill the townside child, the other townside child knows they are attached to a scum AND becomes basically an IC. Scum can never win a 1v1 against the mafia-Child if the scum that is alive at the end is a LoveScum because:

A) if lovescum dies, scum lose

b) if child dies, scum still lose.

Peta's bussing of DV, his bussing of me, these all make sense from the perspective that Peta is EndGame-Scum, and thus the more valuable of the two since he is not attached to my love.

His high effort, high WIM, high "townie-ness" these all make sense from the perspective he knows he is setting up to play for the endgame as that endgame-scum.

Now flip the scenario around and look at the game state in the world where Peta is the child and I am the EndgameScum.

Does my play make any sense whatsoever if I'm the more important of the two scum?

Do you see me setting up early or trying to look townie or do anything whatsoever to prepare for this endgame?

I am literally disconnected from the game-state.

I have no desire to make myself look "more townie"

This is because I wanted to keep myself on the table as a viable mis-elim to dodge a scum-nightkill

You need to look at the motivations behind our play and look for what makes sense for each of us to do assuming we have the role PMs.

Our actions this game make perfect sense in a Peta!scum Pooky!town world.

They make absolutely no sense if we are in a Pooky!scum Peta!Town world.

In post 1302, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Does my play make any sense whatsoever if I'm the more important of the two scum?

uh, what you're doing right now? lmao

I am going to look at this the best I can but it is Saturday.

i cant be scum because im only trying NOW - scum who wasn't trying

In post 1301, petapan wrote:the entire point of trying to play town is so i dont get run up and outed as a child on the assumption i could be the town child

people avoiding a player who hast done anything is going to give away tells

I assumed the parents would come out and direct the action during the crucial moments.

hence I would not actually get targetted if I was townside child.

However if I do get targetted, that means I am mafia child and I am perfectly fine with dying then.

In post 1305, petapan wrote:i cant be scum because im only trying NOW - scum who wasn't trying

no worries just mind the deadline

In post 1303, petapan wrote:uh, what you're doing right now? lmao

If I'm scum I would never counterclaim you claiming child because it makes 0 sense for me to make Mathblade an IC when he's been tunneling me literally all game lol.

I just go for the mathblade mis-elim if I'm scum or go for the titus mis-elim. I never go straight 1v1 against Peta-Town here because Mathblade is literally hard-tunneled on me all game.

In post 1306, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 1301, petapan wrote:the entire point of trying to play town is so i dont get run up and outed as a child on the assumption i could be the town child

people avoiding a player who hast done anything is going to give away tells

I assumed the parents would come out and direct the action during the crucial moments.

hence I would not actually get targetted if I was townside child.

However if I do get targetted, that means I am mafia child and I am perfectly fine with dying then.

and with how day 1 was going a long time and no one was getting run up, you never reconsidered? please.

i assumed they were gathering valuable information

besides I was a child so why would I feel the need to insert myself

In post 1308, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 1303, petapan wrote:uh, what you're doing right now? lmao

If I'm scum I would never counterclaim you claiming child because it makes 0 sense for me to make Mathblade an IC when he's been tunneling me literally all game lol.

I just go for the mathblade mis-elim if I'm scum or go for the titus mis-elim. I never go straight 1v1 against Peta-Town here because Mathblade is literally hard-tunneled on me all game.

i dunno why you did it but it could be for wifom arguments, could be because you think you can paranoia them onto me, could be because you're afraid mathblade won't vote titus. i can't really say, i just know that you DID do it

wifom doesnt work against mathblade because he's in a tunnel

you can't use wifom on people who are in a tunnel because they are not open minded

i play every game the same regardless of role i don't really try to put any special tactics or consideration into account

literally the only reason I ever CC you here is BECAUSE I AM ACTUALLY A CHILD.

I would NEVER EVER CC you here as scum like its just suicidally stupid to make Mathblade-TunnelBro into an IC and NEED his vote when there is almost 0% chance he will ever change his mind on me.

In post 1313, petapan wrote:i play every game the same regardless of role i don't really try to put any special tactics or consideration into account

I play the game according to the conditions of the game and the game-state.

I have almost no chance at convincing tunnelbro mathblade that I am town, so there is no way I would CC and make him an IC at Elo when I need his vote to win.

Just 0.

Like if I'm scum, I can say with 99.9999% certainty I shoot mathblade as soon as I can.

I don't even care what role he is.

People who suspect me get a bullet in the head period, that's just how I roll.

I do not keep him alive for Elo so I can counterclaim Peta and lose cuz Mathblade wants me dead no matter what.

In post 1314, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:BECAUSE I AM ACTUALLY A CHILD.

yes but whats your role in the game

you know my role

i hope you are laughing at how hard mathblade is trying to get you your win.

i think its hilarious too

In post 1315, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Like if I'm scum, I can say with 99.9999% certainty I shoot mathblade as soon as I can.

ok but scum were clearly child hunting and hit their mark so thats totally meaningless

if a vt got shot your odd were always going to be a lot worse

no i wouldnt care

i would always shoot mathblade

doesnt matter when the child dies

keeping myself alive is more important

In post 1317, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:you know my role

yes its mafia mother i just wanted to make a funny

like theres 0 chance i let mathblade into elo if im scum

just 0

like if I need his vote to win as scum, Ive pretty much already lost. I might as well shoot myself in the face.

In post 1320, petapan wrote:

In post 1317, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:you know my role

yes its mafia mother i just wanted to make a funny

You're my mother and you're mean to me

I can't believe you'd kill your own child

pooky you are an abusive mom but i expected that as you abuse me every game we are in

I loved you peta but you turned to a life of crime not once but twice