In post 1278, Chumbo wrote:@ben: what is the significance of BM not unvoting clidd? I don't get that part.
If you go back to D1, you can see that BM found clidd really towny, but then didn't unvote and acted a little weird instead. BM's vote made clidd go to E-1, remember? I think that if the solve was {BM, clidd}, BM would panic unvote, because obviously he wouldn't want to get clidd to hammer range again.
But yeah, the hammer was awful ngl.
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:38 am
by ben dover123
In post 1279, Chumbo wrote:But yeah, BM hammering like that screams scum to me. He said nothing about his reads or anything.
Then the conversation today makes it obvious. Saying Lone and Lunar has partner equity, when he just hammered lunar. Him saying we should massclaim (what would be the point). I don't think he's bothered catching up.
I think it's likely that rockhopper is his partner.
Lavar is my second choice, based on BM's vote on him.
clidd is very likely actually a doc, but it's not a certainty and I don't get why BM not removing his vote is significant. I'm pretty sure trendall was the only other person on clidd's wagon at the time and no one else was expressing a desire to eliminate clidd d1 after the claim. Ben voted him for a very short period but I think he was just losing his mind at the time.
Ben and Lone are very town.
I honestly feel like Lavar was supposed to be the LHF that was going to be miseliminated today, luckily no one is going to listen to BM at this point.
Yeah, his actions are just mad crazy. He hasn't bothered to reread, and especially that {Lone, Lunar} solve is complete garbage since BM hammered Lunar.
I went into state of insanity for a bit of that dumpster fire of a D1, don't mind me
Rock's recent posts aren't great either. His vote on BM looks a lot worse than Lavar's vote on BM.
In post 1285, clidd wrote:Assuming we are all correct on Lone, right?
you gotta be clidding me!
:kekw:
Don't doubt yourself clidd, Lone is so town at this point.
Rockhopper wrote:VOTE: Battle Mage
Rockhopper wrote:UNVOTE:
Rockhopper wrote:
I do not get why this town indicative
I don't know if this is Rock "trying" to undo our townread on Chumbo but...
Like, at least Chumbo reads and has a good opinion. Lavar and Rock are cruising by the sidelines
Alright the plan is as follows:
If BM flips green: Hang Chumbo (confscum) then Lavar for the win
If BM flips red: Hang Rock then Lavar for the win.
In post 768, ben dover123 wrote:For example, Lavar is literally just posting one liners like "bruh" and "you're going to get roleblocked" and obvious stuff like that, as if he is coasting the sidelines watching town just go boom boom
Pedit: You have literally no right to troll here bud.
VOTE: LavarManos
Anyone want to jump on here as well?
I wasn't trolling dude, I forgot who got elimmed. It was a long night...
But yeah I agree with Ben here. The vote on me today was very opportunistic, and shamelessly buddying.
In post 1259, Battle Mage wrote:I think we should do Lavar, and if Lavar flips scum I get a clean slate
In post 1306, LavarManos wrote:Battle Mage still seems scummy in the sense that he doesn't seem townie.
Like this doesn't seem like BM and Lavar are of the same alignment. If Lavar/BM is w/w, he definitely wouldn't have voted, possibly would try to divert our attentions.
In post 1306, LavarManos wrote:Battle Mage still seems scummy in the sense that he doesn't seem townie.
In post 1300, ben dover123 wrote:If you go back to D1, you can see that BM found clidd really towny, but then didn't unvote and acted a little weird instead. BM's vote made clidd go to E-1, remember? I think that if the solve was {BM, clidd}, BM would panic unvote, because obviously he wouldn't want to get clidd to hammer range again.
Ok, that makes more sense now. I forgot he put clidd at E-1.
In post 1300, ben dover123 wrote:If you go back to D1, you can see that BM found clidd really towny, but then didn't unvote and acted a little weird instead. BM's vote made clidd go to E-1, remember? I think that if the solve was {BM, clidd}, BM would panic unvote, because obviously he wouldn't want to get clidd to hammer range again.
Ok, that makes more sense now. I forgot he put clidd at E-1.
What do you think about Rock's recent actions?
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:41 am
by Chumbo
My thoughts haven't changed all that much. The vote on me early on could be trying to distract from a BM elim, then changing it to BM when he realizes everyone wants to eliminate BM today.
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:42 am
by ben dover123
In post 1312, Chumbo wrote:My thoughts haven't changed all that much. The vote on me early on could be trying to distract from a BM elim, then changing it to BM when he realizes everyone wants to eliminate BM today.
tbh his backtracking and following a BM elim is just hella sus
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:53 am
by Chumbo
Are you having second thoughts about BM? I still think he's the safest bet right now.
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:54 am
by ben dover123
In post 1314, Chumbo wrote:Are you having second thoughts about BM? I still think he's the safest bet right now.
No, definitely not.
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:58 am
by Chumbo
I'm ready for a hammer, but let's see if clidd has anything he wants to say.
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:04 am
by clidd
Hum.
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:13 am
by clidd
I believe that we all talked about who we suspect, except Lava (which was limited to the comment about BM).
I don't have much to say, considering that we still have to be 100% sure that BM is mafia (or not) with the flip.
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:14 am
by clidd
In relation to D3, my opinion is that Ben and who is town among you, try to reach a consensus to hunt down the last scum (or in a more remote scenario, two scums). Of course, the elimination plan that Ben suggested is excellent, but it is important that all slots are reevaluated overnight, especially Lone and Lava, assuming that the focus tends to go unilaterally towards eliminating Chumbo or Rock.
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:17 am
by clidd
But, hopefully, with the elimination of BM today, we will already get rid of one of the scums, which makes Rock the smartest elimination for tomorrow.
Obviously, it is interesting that you guys try to hear what he has to say (and his final reads).
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:18 am
by ben dover123
In post 1319, clidd wrote:In relation to D3, my opinion is that Ben and who is town among you, try to reach a consensus to hunt down the last scum (or in a more remote scenario, two scums). Of course, the elimination plan that Ben suggested is excellent, but it is important that all slots are reevaluated overnight, especially Lone and Lava, assuming that the focus tends to go unilaterally towards eliminating Chumbo or Rock.
I think we are ready to flip BM.
Rock definitely looks like the better elimination tomorrow, yeah.
If BM flips RB'er, clidd, protect me and sacrifice yourself.
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:20 am
by ben dover123
D2 was a lot better, you know. clidd came back from his meta scum tone and we are working together at last to get rid of these last scum.
Like, I'm fairly certain that Lavar is town if BM is scum, and Chumbo seems towny enough, so {BM, Rock} looks like the final solve.
