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VOTE: Save the Dragons

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I wasn't even trying to pagetop, but that's nice for effect.

In post 1300, Kazyan wrote:

ATTENTION DUELISTS!

MY HAIR HAS DECIDED THAT WE ELIMINATE BEEBOY!

and we trust our fate to the heart of the cards.

But what if someone vigs Beeboy and we vote someone that will react more to pressure instead.

In post 1292, Chara wrote:

In post 1288, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I don't understand why we should ever eliminate a slot that doesn't even post. The allignment indicative information we'd get out of that flip if scum is zero to none. And if they flip town it's even worse.

because a slot that doesn't post (not saying this is beeboy as the day is still young) gives zero information alive too, and they need to go before the endgame. i'd want to eliminate that slot regardless.

It was being proposed that we eliminate the slot even if it gets a replacement.

in this case there happens to be evidence it is very AI for beeboy.

I don't think this is the case based on what I've seen. I think Beeboy has adopted this playstyle regardless of playstyle and also has happened to roll scum lately. I played with him a while ago and he definitely did not refuse to post as scum.

idk what that means

To Kaz

I believe that if Beeboy is just scum then not only do we eliminate scum but we garner reactions from partners as well. Limming inactive slots (especially in this case) is far more productive earlier on

^

You also get a read out of Pooky who is the one spearhelding this lim, along with me

You're getting free information from players who actually want to play at the cost of nothing

Pretty good deal I'd say

I mean if i was scum and i had someone like Beeboy as scum partner i would just buss him and say everyone who didn't vote him is scum.

In post 1311, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I mean if i was scum and i had someone like Beeboy as scum partner i would just buss him and say everyone who didn't vote him is scum.

That's kind of silly

So I take you don't want to clarify what you didn't understand and sweep the accusation under the rug? If that's a choice you make then I will read you on Beeboy's flip

In post 1304, NorwegianboyEE wrote:But what if someone vigs Beeboy and we vote someone that will react more to pressure instead.

this is why i'm proposing a non-beeboy wagon right now. i think Raya's scummy, we can talk about that.

In post 1313, unwnd wrote:So I take you don't want to clarify what you didn't understand and sweep the accusation under the rug? If that's a choice you make then I will read you on Beeboy's flip

Whatever.

Sure thing Squall

In post 1308, unwnd wrote:I believe that if Beeboy is just scum then not only do we eliminate scum but we garner reactions from partners as well. Limming inactive slots (especially in this case) is far more productive earlier on

but i find it so hard to say no to unwnd when they speak my language about trimming inactive slots. i'm just thinking pushing beeboy at this moment is less fun when there's a whole cornucopia of players.

In post 1310, unwnd wrote:You also get a read out of Pooky who is the one spearhelding this lim, along with me

You're getting free information from players who actually want to play at the cost of nothing

Pretty good deal I'd say

I mean, for pooky, it just sounds like he's tired of playing with someone who does nothing as scum.. and I'd be annoyed at it as either alignment too...

In post 1305, Dwlee99 wrote:

In post 1292, Chara wrote:

In post 1288, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I don't understand why we should ever eliminate a slot that doesn't even post. The allignment indicative information we'd get out of that flip if scum is zero to none. And if they flip town it's even worse.

because a slot that doesn't post (not saying this is beeboy as the day is still young) gives zero information alive too, and they need to go before the endgame. i'd want to eliminate that slot regardless.

It was being proposed that we eliminate the slot even if it gets a replacement.

in this case there happens to be evidence it is very AI for beeboy.

I don't think this is the case based on what I've seen. I think Beeboy has adopted this playstyle regardless of playstyle and also has happened to roll scum lately. I played with him a while ago and he definitely did not refuse to post as scum.

if this is true it's a fair criticism of the eliminate beeboy idea, but i do find it hard to believe beeboy's just been joining games and then not playing them?

In post 1317, Chara wrote:

In post 1308, unwnd wrote:I believe that if Beeboy is just scum then not only do we eliminate scum but we garner reactions from partners as well. Limming inactive slots (especially in this case) is far more productive earlier on

but i find it so hard to say no to unwnd when they speak my language about trimming inactive slots. i'm just thinking pushing beeboy at this moment is less fun when there's a whole cornucopia of players.

I understand that too, and I definitely share Pooky's sentiment in regards to feeling annoyed with Beeboy

I'm male by the way chara, the lack of pronoun is a distinctive choice to assert my geriatric position where there were none

Or maybe I'm just lazy, either one

In post 1314, Chara wrote:i think Raya's scummy, we can talk about that.

okay, why?

In post 1288, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I don't understand why we should ever eliminate a slot that doesn't even post. The allignment indicative information we'd get out of that flip if scum is zero to none. And if they flip town it's even worse.

In post 1304, NorwegianboyEE wrote:But what if someone vigs Beeboy and we vote someone that will react more to pressure instead.

In post 1311, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I mean if i was scum and i had someone like Beeboy as scum partner i would just buss him and say everyone who didn't vote him is scum.

This is strange. NBEE suggests that 1) flipping Beeboy would give no information, 2) that we wait for to see if we have a vigilante, and 3) that well, maybe the scum are just trying to bus Beeboy. What I'm seeing is that NBEE has no consistent townread rationale for disagreeing with the Beeboy wagon, and is simply trying very hard to save Beeboy.

If Beeboy flips scum, we should seriously consider whether NBEE was trying to save a scumbuddy here.

I just don't like voting slots that haven't posted yet, to say it's defending a scum partner is quite the stretch of the imagination to put it mildly.

unwnd: thanks for letting me know. :>