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In post 1288, Save The Dragons wrote:anything specific strike out at you? @grendal, re:noraa's reaction

yeah uh when i get back to my real computer i can give you those games remind me if i don't do it soon. i think roden was scum in 1 of them and town in 1 so who knows.

reread it, maybe I'm putting too much mental ehpasis on the sircakez bit. Noraas reaction is probably more non-ai then i was giving it credit for.

I think i need to peace out for the night and come back tomorrow rested up.

I'm not saying I'm confident in this at all, but here's roughly the reads

Definitely town: Andante Dwlee99

Probably Town:
MUSHSHAGANA
Bell
Cephrir
The Three Bears (Titus, Flea the Magician, Noraa)
Save The Dragons

Probably not town:
Ircher - I know there's more Ircher lines I never read though, I keep meaning to ISO.. but I don't so rip
NorwegianboyEE
Arcade Pals (Dunnstral, MariaR)


idk who this is:
Lady Lambdadelta
Galron
Roden
Malakittens
Mastina
TheWayItEnds Princess Elodie
Tet
Grendel MegAzumarill
tictac
Toogeloo
Val89 T3
Greeting


lol update: that was like a waste of time

@dragons ^ 1301 was created for you

thank you!

it's so bad there's no way scum would deign to be seen with it so you're probably town lol

I do think you're town though!! that's been one of my thoughts here, like everytime I open up this game, I'll see something good from you, that feels like actual gamesolving/gameadvancing stuff

like, I'll have solid reads like that, but that list has made me just realize I don't have a read on 12 people....

In post 1304, Save The Dragons wrote:it's so bad there's no way scum would deign to be seen with it so you're probably town lol

dannng bad? I feel like it's a good start!!! no way I'm sorting everyone on day 1 here though

In post 1304, Save The Dragons wrote:it's so bad there's no way scum would deign to be seen with it so you're probably town lol

fun take

it's not a bad start i guess but i feel like if you were scum you'd toss a couple of reads on some of the slots like roden or greeting that are readable at this point

In post 1308, Save The Dragons wrote:it's not a bad start i guess but i feel like if you were scum you'd toss a couple of reads on some of the slots like roden or greeting that are readable at this point

not gonna lie i haven't read a word either of those people said thus far yet

Heya Grendel

Andante is town

In post 1274, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:Noraa looks EXACTLY like she looks as scum.

Noraa looks like Noraa. Thats so shocking!!!!!! News to me. I didn't know my town game and scum game had similarities. Absolute bonkers!

In post 1030, Andante wrote:like, sure there's nothing in meg's ISO, but could just be lost town? or is lost town not an option in yalls books?

It's certainly an option, but just being an option doesn't mean it's actually the case.

In post 1069, Roden wrote:I can't really help you with your death tunnel at this point then.

I didn't think your initial posts and arguments were too scummy. As I mentioned before, I've seen plenty of stubborn town players that stick to their guns even when they are wrong. However, the continued focus on defending and arguing back in place of forming reads (that are not based entirely in OMGUS) strikes me as a tactic scum adopts. Not only is it distracting to the rest of the thread, it makes you look busy while in reality, you are just treading the same old ground again and again.

In post 1132, Andante wrote:whereas if you just take 1 look at Arcade, Arcade screams maf...

I think that's just their style. I've played several games with Dunnstral both with him as town and as scum, and this seems pretty par for the course. They certainly could be scum, but it's hard to tell either way after you account for playstyle differences.

In post 1158, Save The Dragons wrote:i wanna see ircher's readlist

I am still working on it unfortunately. I will have it by the end of Friday; I promise. You can lim me without hesitation if I don't follow through.

In post 1180, Grendel wrote:and Ircher I played a game with a LONG time ago.

It has indeed, back in 2016 for Newbie 1709. I'm glad to see you're still around!

i didnt give greeting a read because i didnt know who it was. i didnt know who tet was either. im not gonna give reads to people when i cant even match their prfpc to their name.

tho tet was on me. i do know who tet is and can match that up. just at the moment couldn't remember.

In post 1310, Galron wrote:Heya Grendel

Andante is town

Is andante bad scum?

In post 1121, Bell wrote:@roden, self meta. say as scum you'd be doing y, not x and say why you're town because you're doing z not w.

I don't really know how to answer this because I don't think I do any certain noticeable things as scum that I wouldn't do if I were town. I think if anything, being informed makes me less concerned/stressed about appearances or what others think of me, because I know anyone who scum reads me kind of has a point. But if I'm town and getting scum read I also have to determine if if the scum read is genuine, a bad push from town, or a push from scum trying to take advantage of me, and that is just infinitely more stressful to me. Especially because even when I'm IC I've been hard pushed by scum and Vig'd by town, and I genuinely just have trouble reading people's intentions.

So idk. As scum, at most I'd say the biggest difference is that I feel more confident trying to work townies and sway them my way since I don't have to actually read them. I generally just find it easier to play scum since I'm basically just putting on a mask and I don't need to understand others, while town me is unfiltered, combative, and usually lost during Day 1.

ircher at game start: super boring quote stripes
ircher under pressure looking like a likely lim: still super boring quote stripes

And your point is?

ircher's pstyle is quote strips so like duh

In post 1318, Ircher wrote:And your point is?

im not sure what that signals about your alignment if anything i just found it amusing

cephy if you could dayvig someone who wasn't me right now, who would it be

In post 1285, Grendel wrote:Oh Save the Dragons! You'd said prevously you had SR Rodan frequently in previous games. Is it ok to ask for some examples?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87368 roden scum and i scumread him

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87504 roden town and i scumread him

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=87201 roden and i were scum together didn't really scum read him

Fenny i have read like ten posts from the scum game and it looks nothing like here. i dont have the time to read more but roden is just town here im pretty sure of it.

In post 1312, Ircher wrote:

In post 1069, Roden wrote:I can't really help you with your death tunnel at this point then.

I didn't think your initial posts and arguments were too scummy. As I mentioned before, I've seen plenty of stubborn town players that stick to their guns even when they are wrong. However, the continued focus on defending and arguing back in place of forming reads (that are not based entirely in OMGUS) strikes me as a tactic scum adopts. Not only is it distracting to the rest of the thread, it makes you look busy while in reality, you are just treading the same old ground again and again.

This doesn't make any sense. Am I not supposed to defend myself when I'm being accused? And at what point am I "treading the same ground again and again" when I'm not even the one bringing up those posts? You're acting like I'm going around picking fights, yet Ceph took a pot shot at me over a read Mastina made earlier and reignited our shit fight, and Val is scum reading me over a post I made almost a week ago while apparently have zero opinions on anything else that's happened even though he claimed to read the entire thread.

Also claiming OMGUS is lazy and not even factual because I town read two out of the three loudest voices who claim I'm scum. I've already gone through why Ceph and STD's cases on me are meh, but I think tonally they're both town and that their reactions to some of my posts feel genuine. My Mush scum read is the only one you could call OMGUS but even that's a stretch because Mush just keeps spamming "you're scum lol" and ignores me when I tell it to explain it's read. "LOL you're just scum lol" isn't a case and I'm not the only one it's doing that to either.