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OtH, I still don’t understand the TR, is it just based on meta?
@butterflies

In post 13035, ProfessorDrapion wrote:

In post 12955, Best Bird wrote:Dunn also pretty obv wanted frog iirc

You should have chosen Frog to talk more about Pooky .


Eh, anyways what role was Luke?

In post 13037, Best Bird wrote:Neighbor. That’s it.

Oh yeah that’s right

~GE

In post 13101, ProfessorDrapion wrote:OtH, I still don’t understand the TR, is it just based on meta?
@butterflies

???
This looks like you’re asking us a question but the @ throws me off

~GE

In post 13091, Rad wrote:

In post 13088, butterflies wrote:

In post 13030, ProfessorDrapion wrote:

In post 12942, Best Bird wrote:VOTE: Rad

Rad doesn’t make much sense as a wolf with how Math and Bella’s treatment went on both sides and how he handled Cephrir.

I don’t but you tracked me AND lied straight to my face about tr me.

Like I was wondering why Drap was loudly announcing everyone he was considering to track. So to track you was actually a reasonable move since he loudly read you town but may have secretly be concerned.

Maybe not the BEST track but I think it makes sense with that POV.

I think you’re completely missing the point here. I’m not salty about being tracked but about being lied too.

In post 13092, ProfessorDrapion wrote:

In post 13088, butterflies wrote:

In post 13030, ProfessorDrapion wrote:

In post 12942, Best Bird wrote:VOTE: Rad

Rad doesn’t make much sense as a wolf with how Math and Bella’s treatment went on both sides and how he handled Cephrir.

I don’t but you tracked me AND lied straight to my face about tr me.

I didn’t lie about my TR on you.
I tracked you from paranoia cause I had some doubt on my read.

So I really don’t understand then? Why wouldn’t you have tracked a player who you actually scumread?

In post 13104, butterflies wrote:

In post 13091, Rad wrote:

In post 13088, butterflies wrote:

In post 13030, ProfessorDrapion wrote:

In post 12942, Best Bird wrote:VOTE: Rad

Rad doesn’t make much sense as a wolf with how Math and Bella’s treatment went on both sides and how he handled Cephrir.

I don’t but you tracked me AND lied straight to my face about tr me.

Like I was wondering why Drap was loudly announcing everyone he was considering to track. So to track you was actually a reasonable move since he loudly read you town but may have secretly be concerned.

Maybe not the BEST track but I think it makes sense with that POV.

I think you’re completely missing the point here. I’m not salty about being tracked but about being lied too.

No Nancy I get you. I don't think you should be insulted by town!Drap here cause we're playing a game of deception and openly reading you as town and then making this kind of mechanics move just kinda makes sense to either address paranoia or solidify the read. Do you think drap is scum because of it?

In post 13093, ProfessorDrapion wrote:

In post 13091, Rad wrote:

In post 13088, butterflies wrote:

In post 13030, ProfessorDrapion wrote:

In post 12942, Best Bird wrote:VOTE: Rad

Rad doesn’t make much sense as a wolf with how Math and Bella’s treatment went on both sides and how he handled Cephrir.

I don’t but you tracked me AND lied straight to my face about tr me.

Like I was wondering why Drap was loudly announcing everyone he was considering to track. So to track you was actually a reasonable move since he loudly read you town but may have secretly be concerned.

Maybe not the BEST track but I think it makes sense with that POV.

Yeah basically I wanted to make sure Butterflies if wolf was gonna do the kill.
So I did all that to ensure it.

So considering Butterflies didn’t visit anyone, they are lock town.

I was locktown from my hard defending Taly in gladiate. You seriously think I’d have a total fucking meltdown over that if I were scum here?

Why are you hard defending Drap here Rad? The Prof can defend their own actions.
~Cytosine

In post 13099, butterflies wrote:

In post 13081, Off The Hook wrote:

In post 12948, Best Bird wrote:

In post 12947, butterflies wrote:

In post 12945, Best Bird wrote:I’m trusting my town partner who is making a compelling case.

Also, Rad would have been a good N1 target for a fake/maf doc given how he was being read at the end of D1.

Mala confirmed Bella was scum macho doc. You mean Ceph?

No, I’m talking to Luke. What I said was scum!Rad would have been a good visit for Scumdoc!bella given how day 1 ended. Investigative would have seen her visit Rad which wasn’t a kill and who was highly townread.

In post 12949, Best Bird wrote:Meaning - it’s not clearing at all.

I feel like Nancy should be able to process this from personal exp but we’ll see what happens

~GE

Can you please elaborate on this? I’m really not following?

Remember the logic GiF gave for why a scum bg existed in FFXIV? That’s what I’m referring to.

~GE

In post 13108, Cytosine and Guanine wrote:Why are you hard defending Drap here Rad? The Prof can defend their own actions.
~Cytosine

Why not?

One of my hero solves has Drap as scum.

I still think his move here was reasonable. Why not talk about it?

In post 13097, Rad wrote:

In post 13093, ProfessorDrapion wrote:

In post 13091, Rad wrote:

In post 13088, butterflies wrote:

In post 13030, ProfessorDrapion wrote:

In post 12942, Best Bird wrote:VOTE: Rad

Rad doesn’t make much sense as a wolf with how Math and Bella’s treatment went on both sides and how he handled Cephrir.

I don’t but you tracked me AND lied straight to my face about tr me.

Like I was wondering why Drap was loudly announcing everyone he was considering to track. So to track you was actually a reasonable move since he loudly read you town but may have secretly be concerned.

Maybe not the BEST track but I think it makes sense with that POV.

Yeah basically I wanted to make sure Butterflies if wolf was gonna do the kill.
So I did all that to ensure it.

So considering Butterflies didn’t visit anyone, they are lock town.

Makes sense to me. Who better to send to a kill than scum!Nancy who is widely town read and hard town read by the tracker?

But other people think it's a terrible move :shrug:

I’m losing my townread on you RAD.

Because the Prof doesn't need your backup on the matter.
~Cytosine

In post 13111, butterflies wrote:

In post 13097, Rad wrote:

In post 13093, ProfessorDrapion wrote:

In post 13091, Rad wrote:

In post 13088, butterflies wrote:

In post 13030, ProfessorDrapion wrote:

In post 12942, Best Bird wrote:VOTE: Rad

Rad doesn’t make much sense as a wolf with how Math and Bella’s treatment went on both sides and how he handled Cephrir.

I don’t but you tracked me AND lied straight to my face about tr me.

Like I was wondering why Drap was loudly announcing everyone he was considering to track. So to track you was actually a reasonable move since he loudly read you town but may have secretly be concerned.

Maybe not the BEST track but I think it makes sense with that POV.

Yeah basically I wanted to make sure Butterflies if wolf was gonna do the kill.
So I did all that to ensure it.

So considering Butterflies didn’t visit anyone, they are lock town.

Makes sense to me. Who better to send to a kill than scum!Nancy who is widely town read and hard town read by the tracker?

But other people think it's a terrible move :shrug:

I’m losing my townread on you RAD.

Vote me nancy. It's cool. I think his move was fine.

I still have a town read on you and this helps.

In post 13112, Cytosine and Guanine wrote:Because the Prof doesn't need your backup on the matter.
~Cytosine

I'm not posting to help someone, I'm injecting my opinion.

Deal with it?

In post 13101, ProfessorDrapion wrote:OtH, I still don’t understand the TR, is it just based on meta?
@butterflies

Yeah, if that slot was scum, I seriously doubt they could have gone this long without pinging me in the slightest.

In post 13103, Off The Hook wrote:

In post 13101, ProfessorDrapion wrote:OtH, I still don’t understand the TR, is it just based on meta?
@butterflies

???
This looks like you’re asking us a question but the @ throws me off

~GE

He’s asking me about my tr of you.

In post 13106, Rad wrote:

In post 13104, butterflies wrote:

In post 13091, Rad wrote:

In post 13088, butterflies wrote:

In post 13030, ProfessorDrapion wrote:

In post 12942, Best Bird wrote:VOTE: Rad

Rad doesn’t make much sense as a wolf with how Math and Bella’s treatment went on both sides and how he handled Cephrir.

I don’t but you tracked me AND lied straight to my face about tr me.

Like I was wondering why Drap was loudly announcing everyone he was considering to track. So to track you was actually a reasonable move since he loudly read you town but may have secretly be concerned.

Maybe not the BEST track but I think it makes sense with that POV.

I think you’re completely missing the point here. I’m not salty about being tracked but about being lied too.

No Nancy I get you. I don't think you should be insulted by town!Drap here cause we're playing a game of deception and openly reading you as town and then making this kind of mechanics move just kinda makes sense to either address paranoia or solidify the read. Do you think drap is scum because of it?

Nah but I’m still kind’ve annoyed by it but he had slots that he clearly was more suspicious of, so why waste it on me? Like I tried to detail Mala wagon even. Right, so I’m now likely looking at a one way ticket to the dead thread, probably.

In post 13117, butterflies wrote:

In post 13106, Rad wrote:

In post 13104, butterflies wrote:

In post 13091, Rad wrote:

In post 13088, butterflies wrote:

In post 13030, ProfessorDrapion wrote:

In post 12942, Best Bird wrote:VOTE: Rad

Rad doesn’t make much sense as a wolf with how Math and Bella’s treatment went on both sides and how he handled Cephrir.

I don’t but you tracked me AND lied straight to my face about tr me.

Like I was wondering why Drap was loudly announcing everyone he was considering to track. So to track you was actually a reasonable move since he loudly read you town but may have secretly be concerned.

Maybe not the BEST track but I think it makes sense with that POV.

I think you’re completely missing the point here. I’m not salty about being tracked but about being lied too.

No Nancy I get you. I don't think you should be insulted by town!Drap here cause we're playing a game of deception and openly reading you as town and then making this kind of mechanics move just kinda makes sense to either address paranoia or solidify the read. Do you think drap is scum because of it?

Nah but I’m still kind’ve annoyed by it but he had slots that he clearly was more suspicious of, so why waste it on me? Like I tried to detail Mala wagon even. Right, so I’m now likely looking at a one way ticket to the dead thread, probably.

Why waste a cop target on Luke? Were you ok with that?

In post 13109, Off The Hook wrote:

In post 13099, butterflies wrote:

In post 13081, Off The Hook wrote:

In post 12948, Best Bird wrote:

In post 12947, butterflies wrote:

In post 12945, Best Bird wrote:I’m trusting my town partner who is making a compelling case.

Also, Rad would have been a good N1 target for a fake/maf doc given how he was being read at the end of D1.

Mala confirmed Bella was scum macho doc. You mean Ceph?

No, I’m talking to Luke. What I said was scum!Rad would have been a good visit for Scumdoc!bella given how day 1 ended. Investigative would have seen her visit Rad which wasn’t a kill and who was highly townread.

In post 12949, Best Bird wrote:Meaning - it’s not clearing at all.

I feel like Nancy should be able to process this from personal exp but we’ll see what happens

~GE

Can you please elaborate on this? I’m really not following?

Remember the logic GiF gave for why a scum bg existed in FFXIV? That’s what I’m referring to.

~GE

I understand the concept of a scum doc, so still not following?

In post 13113, Rad wrote:

In post 13111, butterflies wrote:

In post 13097, Rad wrote:

In post 13093, ProfessorDrapion wrote:

In post 13091, Rad wrote:

In post 13088, butterflies wrote:

In post 13030, ProfessorDrapion wrote:

In post 12942, Best Bird wrote:VOTE: Rad

Rad doesn’t make much sense as a wolf with how Math and Bella’s treatment went on both sides and how he handled Cephrir.

I don’t but you tracked me AND lied straight to my face about tr me.

Like I was wondering why Drap was loudly announcing everyone he was considering to track. So to track you was actually a reasonable move since he loudly read you town but may have secretly be concerned.

Maybe not the BEST track but I think it makes sense with that POV.

Yeah basically I wanted to make sure Butterflies if wolf was gonna do the kill.
So I did all that to ensure it.

So considering Butterflies didn’t visit anyone, they are lock town.

Makes sense to me. Who better to send to a kill than scum!Nancy who is widely town read and hard town read by the tracker?

But other people think it's a terrible move :shrug:

I’m losing my townread on you RAD.

Vote me nancy. It's cool. I think his move was fine.

I still have a town read on you and this helps.

I’m practically fucking IC now, lol

What BB is saying is Bella being seen as not visiting a kill would get her TR. That’s the same logic to why GiF put in a scum bg into his game. So I think, us being kinda exposed to that rationale by being that role in that game, we should understand how that logic works.

~GE

In post 13118, Rad wrote:

In post 13117, butterflies wrote:

In post 13106, Rad wrote:

In post 13104, butterflies wrote:

In post 13091, Rad wrote:

In post 13088, butterflies wrote:

In post 13030, ProfessorDrapion wrote:

In post 12942, Best Bird wrote:VOTE: Rad

Rad doesn’t make much sense as a wolf with how Math and Bella’s treatment went on both sides and how he handled Cephrir.

I don’t but you tracked me AND lied straight to my face about tr me.

Like I was wondering why Drap was loudly announcing everyone he was considering to track. So to track you was actually a reasonable move since he loudly read you town but may have secretly be concerned.

Maybe not the BEST track but I think it makes sense with that POV.

I think you’re completely missing the point here. I’m not salty about being tracked but about being lied too.

No Nancy I get you. I don't think you should be insulted by town!Drap here cause we're playing a game of deception and openly reading you as town and then making this kind of mechanics move just kinda makes sense to either address paranoia or solidify the read. Do you think drap is scum because of it?

Nah but I’m still kind’ve annoyed by it but he had slots that he clearly was more suspicious of, so why waste it on me? Like I tried to detail Mala wagon even. Right, so I’m now likely looking at a one way ticket to the dead thread, probably.

Why waste a cop target on Luke? Were you ok with that?

????

How was that a waste? Weren’t you just saying what a brilliant scumgame Luke has? *extremely confuzzled*

In post 13122, butterflies wrote:

In post 13118, Rad wrote:

In post 13117, butterflies wrote:

In post 13106, Rad wrote:

In post 13104, butterflies wrote:

In post 13091, Rad wrote:

In post 13088, butterflies wrote:

In post 13030, ProfessorDrapion wrote:

In post 12942, Best Bird wrote:VOTE: Rad

Rad doesn’t make much sense as a wolf with how Math and Bella’s treatment went on both sides and how he handled Cephrir.

I don’t but you tracked me AND lied straight to my face about tr me.

Like I was wondering why Drap was loudly announcing everyone he was considering to track. So to track you was actually a reasonable move since he loudly read you town but may have secretly be concerned.

Maybe not the BEST track but I think it makes sense with that POV.

I think you’re completely missing the point here. I’m not salty about being tracked but about being lied too.

No Nancy I get you. I don't think you should be insulted by town!Drap here cause we're playing a game of deception and openly reading you as town and then making this kind of mechanics move just kinda makes sense to either address paranoia or solidify the read. Do you think drap is scum because of it?

Nah but I’m still kind’ve annoyed by it but he had slots that he clearly was more suspicious of, so why waste it on me? Like I tried to detail Mala wagon even. Right, so I’m now likely looking at a one way ticket to the dead thread, probably.

Why waste a cop target on Luke? Were you ok with that?

????

How was that a waste? Weren’t you just saying what a brilliant scumgame Luke has? *extremely confuzzled*

lol yeah that's my point! Targeting Luke as cop makes sense because you want to make sure he's actually town. He was the HIGHEST town read slot at the time, so the point was to make sure he wasn't some scum dominating.

You're also the highest town read slot here. scum!Nancy probably makes the kill due to being so highly town read. So targeting you makes sense from a paranoid perspective.

In post 13121, Off The Hook wrote:What BB is saying is Bella being seen as not visiting a kill would get her TR. That’s the same logic to why GiF put in a scum bg into his game. So I think, us being kinda exposed to that rationale by being that role in that game, we should understand how that logic works.

~GE

Well that part I actually get. But I could see that how if RAD was scum, she could have been potentially trying to clear him with that but given that she was specifically scum macho doc, is what’s the sticking point for me.

However @RAD why are you going on and on about how much you still hard tr me after I’m practically cleared?