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[populartajo]

Xtoxm, why do you think Emp is town?

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Experienced IRC players: Can Godfathers also have the Coward ability? If not, I should be pretty much confirmed town - I've been crumbing Coward since D1, zwets's N0 result is consistent with me being a Coward, and zwet got an innocent investigation on me D2.

No, GF's can't be cowards

[Empking]

- I've been crumbing Coward since D1,

Where?

[populartajo]

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[KaleiÐoscøpe]

!Vote: populartajo

I don't see a reason to wait. Alpaca and emp have to be the last scum.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

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[populartajo]

So, its Empking and Scope?

[populartajo]

Scope, vote Empking plz.

[Empking]

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[populartajo]

I'm not sure. Tar and Kale feel dodgy. To me it looks like Emp has to be town as it's the only thing that can explain lack of kills.

Cheerleader says otherwise, AFAICT - the Mafia could just have been extremely unlucky (i.e, Vir randomblocking the D2 Mafia kill).

Experienced IRC players: Can Godfathers also have the Coward ability? If not, I should be pretty much confirmed town - I've been crumbing Coward since D1, zwets's N0 result is consistent with me being a Coward, and zwet got an innocent investigation on me D2.

Poptajo almost has to be scum at this point. Other scum is either Empking or KScope, strongly leaning towards the former.

In other news, Xtoxm is town, not survivor.

HoS: Populartajo (will become a vote when we are ready for day to end, not before)

Tar, I am not scum. Why at this point I have to be scum?

[Tarhalindur]

Also did you breadcrumb?

Well, besides that nice set of "reason to believe" posts you even quoted below, there's this one:

I still think Kevy is probable scum, but as of now you're an even better candidate than him. Why? Because you're COUNTERCLAIMED, that's why.

!vote roflcopter

let me ask you one very simple question here.

where did i say that i have role based information on you?

Couldn't have said it better myself.

I now recognize what you are trying to say. There's only 1 consistent scenario here.

!unvote

The only consistent scenario here is that you've been votehopping like mad on the basis of arbitrary percents of scumminess.

Can we lynch Tarhalindur yet? Really the only thing I get out of him is tons of deflection, then doesn't stick to his own story when he gets roasted. Never in my life have I ever seen a person beat around the bush so much about their "foolproof" reason only to have them CHANGE TARGETS AND THEN UNVOTE.

As it stands right now, with a portion of our town not having posted in a while, I want Tarhalindur lynched because no one else is a worthy candidate. I am not only voting you because I think you are bad town, I am also voting you for playing like scum.

I attacked roflcopter because I thought he claimed role-based information on me. TARGETED role-based information, specifically. If he had, I would be in counterclaim position. Since he's claimed nontargeted role-based, I am not in a position to counterclaim.

I backed off of you because I see role-based information saying that you are innocent that I consider more reliable than my own if you are telling the truth, and the downside (the possibility that you are lying) can be ignored for now because if either you or roflcopter are proven to be lying then the other will be lynched instantly. Keep in mind that this is the only reason I am unvoting.

Note the word "targeted" - Coward's hide makes the Coward untargetable for that night.

There's also these:

I mupped Tar N0, and I guess it protected him.

Question for players with more experience with IRC: Would MUP be told if the ability failed to resolve (due roleblock or something similar)? I assume no, but I want to double-check. This is a matter of the utmost importance.

(Zwet, if you're lying about your role as town... AGAIN [yes, I've seen him lie about role as town before*]... it's time to spit out the truth.)

* - speaking of that, I just thought of something. Why hasn't DGB made a peep in this game about Zwet's meta of lying as town to stimulate discussion here?

I mupped Tar N0, and I guess it protected him.

Question for players with more experience with IRC: Would MUP be told if the ability failed to resolve (due roleblock or something similar)? I assume no, but I want to double-check. This is a matter of the utmost importance.

Um, yeah.

The MUP would be told that they were blocked if they were blocked. However, if the MUP simply protected or did nothing (which don't give any sort of confirmation like kill and inspect do), there would be no message. Is that what you're asking?

The real question is, would a MUP be told his ability failed if he targeted an untargetable player N0?

Um, yeah.

I mupped Tar N0, and I guess it protected him.

Question for players with more experience with IRC: Would MUP be told if the ability failed to resolve (due roleblock or something similar)? I assume no, but I want to double-check. This is a matter of the utmost importance.

The MUP would be told that they were blocked if they were blocked. However, if the MUP simply protected or did nothing (which don't give any sort of confirmation like kill and inspect do), there would be no message. Is that what you're asking?

The real question is, would a MUP be told his ability failed if he targeted an untargetable player N0?

No.

In that case, I'm going to go ahead and call Zwet mostly cleared. He got the right N0 result, too.

Yes, this is a softclaim that I am a role that was untargetable N0 and targetable N1.

So, yeah, about those breadcrumbs? Oh yeah, they're all over the place.

And can you explain this?

2) I was trying to be subtle. Since that doesn't seem to be working, let's use the blunt instrument: I have REASON TO BELIEVE that Kevy just let slip that the Mafia kill was not aimed at Seraphim. I am reluctant to explain further at this time.

2) Okay, your claim that "if he had REASON TO BELIEVE that kevy let slip he's mafia then he would not stop voting his caught scum" is just a load of crap. I have reason to believe (read: moderately reliable rolebased information) that Kevy is scum, based on his comments about a possible missing kill and the fact that no known N0 kill magnets died last night, but I am not absolutely sure that he is scum.

I was trying not to reveal that I had rolebased unless I had to (as long as I didn't claim rolebased, there was a decent chance the Mafia might do something stupid again). This became necessary shortly thereafter (both to explain the attack and because the chance that the Mafia would do something stupid decreased), hence why I clarified.

2) Okay, your claim that "if he had REASON TO BELIEVE that kevy let slip he's mafia then he would not stop voting his caught scum" is just a load of crap. I have reason to believe (read: moderately reliable rolebased information) that Kevy is scum, based on his comments about a possible missing kill and the fact that no known N0 kill magnets died last night, but I am not absolutely sure that he is scum. If you claimed rolebased against me (which you DID in your post 62, intentionally or not - note DGB's reaction), then I would KNOW that you are lying and therefore scum. As in, I would be COUNTERCLAIMING you (there is absolutely no way that you could have used an ability on me last night). A 99.9% chance of lynching scum is better than a ~70% chance of lynching scum, thank you very much.

Im having some problems understanding why your claim makes someone 70% confirmed scum.

Also, when did you realize that Tan and Vir were scum?

Yeah, try the answer to that very question that I gave ON DAY ONE:

let me put it to you this way then - i know that you are full of shit when you say your role based information makes kevy 70% likely to be scum

Note: 70% chance to be scum is more like a 70% yield in chemistry than anything

- it means there is a significantly increased chance that the player is scum (definitely strong enough to build a case on, especially early, but not 100% conclusive). That's why I was building a case on Kevy - the rolebased is not absolute proof that he is scum.

I now recognize what you are trying to say. There's only 1 consistent scenario here.

!unvote

(Hope this works.)

This should be a nice explanation of the breadcrumbing.

Before I cast my vote, I want to be sure of something.

IRC veterans: Can Cop be a Mafia role?

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Not on your demand. If Tar would like emp dead before you, I'd be fine with it. Otherwise, vote stays

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

IRC veterans: Can Cop be a Mafia role?

I'm not going to answer this one for obvious reasons

Mod, can the cop role be scum?

[populartajo]

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[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Why don't I want to lynch you?

[populartajo]

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[KaleiÐoscøpe]

LOL, no you're not.

[populartajo]

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[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Neither are unless 1 scum is left, in which case I would still believe it's you.

[populartajo]

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[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Yes. And his role is more plausible then yours.

[populartajo]

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[Empking]

!vote Pop

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

How?

Not functioning role < Role with occasional effects

[populartajo]

There is no a single FUCKING reason in this thread why Empking should be considered more protown than me.
Its Scope and Empking.
!Vote : Empking.