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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:51 am
by Trilobite
MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Trilobyte wrote:We're against the RC wagon and pretty much agree with what you said about his “slip” in that we don't think it is very much of one at all. All in all it feels like an opportunistic wagon when we have much better avenues to pursue. Namely Seacore and LB.
Minimizing the nature of the reasons people are voting for RC? Check. Seriously it is hardly just for the ‘slip’. If he is indeed Cult I’ll be looking at your interactions more closely.
Nice conditional accusation. Have fun with that.

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:05 am
by Triglav
ReaperCharlie wrote:Time for a little wagon analysis...


Triglav
Post #1006
:
Triglav wrote:
Vote: ReaperCharlie
No reasoning whatsoever. This is Triglav's whole post.
:?
Am not sure if you are playing dumb or are dumb.
Look at posts prior to vote post.
Chain of suspicion becomes very clear.
Look at question dodge *immediately* prior to vote.
Chain of suspicion becomes large and solid and wraps around you while playing loud heavy metal songs proclaiming scum guilt.

@furc - you are really advancing concept that every player who doubted you for too long is scummy?
Disagree.
Some of them, sure, all? No way.
Scum and town usually have a proportional mix of stupidity and VI players on their teams.
Case in point :wink:

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:17 am
by ReaperCharlie
I haven't MOVED from attack to attack, Magna. It is a multiple-pronged attack. I have multiple heads, like a hydra, but... not.

Fear me.



FEAR ME.

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:29 am
by Trilobite
MagnaofIllusion Post 1324 wrote:
Trilobyte wrote:We're against the RC wagon and pretty much agree with what you said about his “slip” in that we don't think it is very much of one at all. All in all it feels like an opportunistic wagon when we have much better avenues to pursue. Namely Seacore and LB.
Minimizing the nature of the reasons people are voting for RC? Check. Seriously it is hardly just for the ‘slip’. If he is indeed Cult I’ll be looking at your interactions more closely.
Umm...

-We are minimizing nothing, we simply don't find RC scummy for that supposed slip.
-We realize that it is based on more than the slip, the case still isn't overly compelling. (Slip + meta + not answering questions + faking confusion over cult kill about cover it?)
-Why no threat to Furpants who we were agreeing with and talking to about the RC wagon?
Furpants_Tom Post 1112 wrote:Oops, forgot your RC question. I was pinging on his bravado and buddying earlier; but I don't like the reason this wagon's formed. I think his "slip" is a null tell, because it's overtly bad play for either town or scum; and I think the speed of the wagon has more to do with Seacore grasping at straws and people who change their deeply held opinions every five minutes leaping onto the latest pressure point.

I'd like to know what you think of it, too; but I'd also very much like to know what totallynotmafia thinks of ReaperCharlie and his wagon.
Trilobite Post 1228 wrote:
Furpants_Tom Post 1111 wrote:I'd like to know what you think of it, too; but I'd also very much like to know what totallynotmafia thinks of ReaperCharlie and his wagon.
We're against the RC wagon and pretty much agree with what you said about his “slip” in that we don't think it is very much of one at all. All in all it feels like an opportunistic wagon when we have much better avenues to pursue. Namely Seacore and LB. Do you think Bowser is a better lynch than RC?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:40 am
by AurorusVox
ReaperCharlie wrote:
AurorusVox wrote:I suspected El G was just voting for the biggest wagons, which at the time were you and Seacore. Interesting that he's stayed off yours but hopped on xvart's. And defended you. And called you 100% town.
WOW. SOUNDS F#$^ING FAMILIAR. I.E. ME/FURC.

APPARENTLY YOU CAN'T PUT 2+2 TOGETHER.
I don't get what you mean by you/furc - unless you mean that El G defended you like you defended Furc? In which case, are you seriously suggesting that you're as likely-town as Furc?
ReaperCharlie wrote:...

Point taken.

But that's what it looks like. Do you disagree?
The point was made multiple times earlier in the game, are you actually saying you didn't think of the existence of daytalk QT? Despite the *whisper whisper* in all the vote counts? And even if that
is
what it looks like, why does that make any difference at all, when the daytalk QT completely nullifies the accusation?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:09 am
by Andrius
Every time I sit down this thread crushes my will.
QFT.

Working on my catchup post. Like 1/4 of the way done with my ISOs and shit.

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:35 am
by Fate
TIME TO RIP REAPER A NEW SCUMHOLE

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:44 am
by Fate
ReaperCharlie wrote:
Fate wrote:there are FAR better targets today,
AND TODAY DOESN'T END WITHOUT CONTENT FROM BOWSER. HIM POSTING ELSEWHERE FURTHERS THIS NOTION.THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS THREAT OF ROPE. MOVE OVER NOW TOWNIES.
What happened to this, Fate? I'm also waiting for you to answer my other question. See my previous post.
OH NOW YOU WANT TO PRESSURE LURKERS AND GET THIS LYNCH DIVERTED EH?

WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS? DAY HASN'T ENDED, BOWSER HAS PROMISED CONTENT TODAY (REAL TIME DAY) AND HE BETTER DELIVER LIKE ANDRIUS' SUPPOSED EPIC-POST-IN-THE-MAKING BULLSHIT.

AND YOUR QUESTION?

YOUR
QUESTION!?


I'M TOO LAZY TO LOOK BACK RE-POST IT FOR ME
I'M TOO TOWN TO NOT GO FIND IT LET'S SEE:
@ Fate, did you ever answer my post #951? For your convenience, I'll re-post it:
ReaperCharlie wrote:
So who's town and who's scum if Seacore flips cult and you get killed tonight, Fate?

Just for the record, since you seem pretty sure you're gonna die anyway?
I ALREADY ANSWERED THAT, BY SAYING "I ALREADY ANSWERED THAT" I DID THE WAGON ANALYSIS OF THE SEACORE WAGON YOU CLOWN.

SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT:

REAPER HAS GONE FROM

1.ZOMG I HAVE NO MOTIVATION FOR THIS GAME AT ALL IF Y'ALL GONNA LYNCH ME IM FRUSTRATED TOWNIEZ
TO

2. LOOK AT ME!
LOOK AT ME POSTING CONTENT AND ANALYSIS AND SHIT!
+LOOK AT BOWSER HE'S SOOOO LURKY AND SUCMMY WHY IS NO ONE PAYING ATTENTION TO HIM?
WHY WEREN'T YOU PAYING ATTENTION TO HIM BEFORE A WAGON BUILT ON YOU REAPER? LOLSCUM


3. I HAD QUESTION THAT
YOU
IGNORED REAPER:
Fate wrote:Hey Reaper, how come your play this game isn't irritating me?

REAPER DIES TODAY

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:49 am
by Fate
SpyreX meet me at camera 3


What ties between AV and Reaper do you see?

SERIOUS QUESTION.

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:51 am
by Fate
Also as Triglav pointed out:

Reaper's wagon analysis LITERALLY consists of quoting the post in WHICH they voted him, and ignoring all surrounding posts, context, previous posts giving reasons, etc.

IS THIS THE SORT OF TOWN WE WOULD WANT TO LEAVE ALIVE ANYWAY?

NOPE.

BUT HE'S NOT TOWN YOU NAYSAYERS, I FEEL IT IN MY BONES. REAPER'S LAZINESS/INCOMPETENCE USUALLY GRATES ME HORRIBLY BUT THIS GAME ITS JUST LAUGHABLE HIS ATTEMPTS AT CONTENT+PRO-TOWN POSTRATING.

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:56 am
by Furcolow
hitogoroshi wrote:"Hey guys I think AV is actually a taco"

"uhh no, tacos are incapable of communicating via written english"

"YOUR DEFENSE OF AV IS NOTED"

(it looks just as petty when you do it, don't threaten people for doing your homework)

Anyway I'll go ahead and
unvote
now, but won't revote until I can give this game a bit of time to figure out which wagon I like the most.

No one but Furcolow graverobs tonight.


Also I don't see why people want to keep their insanities secret. Making people pin themselves down on insanity number and identity means we can catch a murderer/cultist with a single out-of-place insanity. If we just do number, they'll obviously claim whatever insanity we find evidence of as the one they took, even if they're hiding more we didn't find. What are you honestly worried about the cult knowing in terms of your insanities?
i can think of 3 that are just fucking S's
solist
sadism
suicidal

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:00 am
by Fate
Put me down on the "why the fuck wouldn't everyone claim insanities? Furcolow you're nuts god damn it" side of the fence, as not being able to keep track of insanities how people got them, what they are, how many, etc. is just BEGGING people to go murderer route.

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:02 am
by Furcolow
if i'm robbing 2 graves a night, how the fuck could i go murderer?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:03 am
by Furcolow
the only reason i would be up for an RC lynch is because he claimed he is going to ward me while he has a rez kit
if he was town, i would assume he would make a list of a few people who heard noise and say he was going to resuscitate one

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:04 am
by SpyreX
SpyreX meet me at camera 3

What ties between AV and Reaper do you see?

SERIOUS QUESTION.
As much as I'd like to give you a serious answer this game makes my eyes bleed and every time I go Ohh I'll go back and reread something I see walls that make me white out and punch things.

SO, the only AV - Reaper I see is a tinfoil AV - Reaper - El Gooski chain of love with him coming in and ruining where I was going.

Of course, that is all conjecture based on an RC flip and part of the townreadsTM document coming upon the gamemorrow.

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:05 am
by Fate
1. Suicidal shouldn't be taken, such as NOT claiming it is irrelevant because it shouldn't be there in the first place (LOL LOOKIN AT BENMAGE)
2. Solist doesn't really help scum, it HURTS them. If player X claims Solist and is scum, they have narrowed their fakeclaims CONSIDERABLY, if that player is town OH NOEZ SCUM KNOWS THEY CAN ONLY DO ONE THING WITH EQUIPZ?? Yeah not seeing the scumvantage here.
3. Sadism.... shouldn't be taken by townies, if NO ONE claims this then people will take that much longer to go "why you vote last cuz?" "oh sadism, i took it. We werent supposed to be claimin insanites remember!??"

And even if town DID take Sadism, how does this help scum? "heheheh we know he can only vote late on wagons hehHEHAHHHA"

Yeah.

Faillogic is fail.

But here I go again wasting posts on Furcolow...

I NEVER SAID YOU WOULD GO MURDERER. YOU CAN HIDE YOUR INSANITIES ALL YOU'D LIKE IF YOU REALLY THINK ITS TECH, YOURE STILL CRAZY AND NO ONE ELSE GETS THIS PRIVILEGE (AKA VV).

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:09 am
by Furcolow
well, i didn't believe anyone else should be able to hide theirs
and i feel like off limit ones should not be off limit for me
i can create WIFOM for the cult this way :)

i have to go to work
keep them in line for me fatey

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:10 am
by SpyreX
As an aside RC calling Fate a sheep is awesome.

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:12 am
by Fate
HE DID WHAT NOW?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:13 am
by SpyreX
Baaaaaaaaaaa (Fate, SpyreX, AurorusVox, kunkstar).

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:15 am
by Fate
ReaperCharlie wrote:
hitogoroshi wrote:"Hey guys I think AV is actually a taco"

"uhh no, tacos are incapable of communicating via written english"

"YOUR DEFENSE OF AV IS NOTED"
:igmeou:

...


:(
AWESOME OBVTOWN
AND
HILARIOUS??!? HITO WILL YOU MARRY ME!?

So what do you think of the last few posts I have written, hito?
"So am I trying hard enough yet? What else do I need to do to get this lynch off me, I APPEAL TO YOU TOWN GOD, SAVE ME FROM THESE HEATHENS THAT ARE ALL CORRECT BUT I CAN'T FEND OFF ALL AT ONCE. ONCE I SWAY THE HEAD THE BODY WILL FOLLOW AMIRITE?"

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:18 am
by Furcolow
can we lynch MoI or Triglav?
dislike their attack over "policy" considering I have been very actively pro-town

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:22 am
by Fate
1. I'll admit to not reading MoI's posts, but he's not a D1 lynch. Trust me.
2. Triglav started the RC train to Culttown, so no.


3. SpyreX I'm reviewing that list and checkin it twice, I keep getting distracted by posts I skimmed over (The whole "BUS YOUR SCUMBUDDY XVART thing from El G and your comments theirin in particular were amusing.)

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:22 am
by Fate
1. I'll admit to not reading MoI's posts, but he's not a D1 lynch. Trust me.
2. Triglav started the RC train to Culttown, so no.


3. SpyreX I'm reviewing that list and checkin it twice, I keep getting distracted by posts I skimmed over (The whole "BUS YOUR SCUMBUDDY XVART thing from El G and your comments theirin in particular were amusing.)

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:26 am
by Fate
kunkstar7 wrote:
RC wrote:cool story bro.

vote: xvart
Man, this right here is enough to
Vote:RC.


Xvart made a legitimate response to your conspiracist theory and you just dismiss it??
xvart wrote:No, we want his grave to be robbed.
@xvart: Why did you make this edit to the original quote?

^NOT A SHEEP VOTE.


>>SPYREX HAS MADE DECENTS POINTS IM TOO LAZY TO QUOTE<<

^NOT A SHEEP VOTE


<<<< NOT A SHEEP VOTE


AUROUSVOX...


I am convinced by many of these RC cases, SeaCore (!!) in particular has been summarising it very well. I still want to do my own ISO of him, but I'm comfortable enough with those summaries to Vote: ReaperCharlie for now.

@MoI, OIC, so you tricked me into thinking I'd done good. I am hurt.
Initially a self-admitted sheep vote. LETS SEE IF THERES A CASE TO COME:
AurorusVox wrote:
ReaperCharlie wrote:@ AV: I don't know if they're scum together. I think Baby Spice is scummy, but I'm onto something with this xvart thing. I can tell I've hit a nerve. What do YOU think?
Hello Mr. Fence sitter.

I see that you don't want to take a stance, thus nullifying my follow up questions for you. I will treat that as being evasive (especially considering you didn't answer me before that), because a central point of your suspicion of xvart is that he and BabySpice warded the same target. You
must
have considered if you think they'd be on the same team. Thus I think you either haven't really given your case much thought, and are just trying to lay down the seeds for an alternative wagon on xvart -- or you have thought about it and don't know how best to answer. If you're town, you'd think about it and give me an answer.
ReaperCharlie wrote:BUT, you seem very quick to try to point it out, trying to perform quick damage control on something that could derail my wagon, and trying to immediately nullify anything anybody says about me being town. Which I am.
BUT, El Goosuki seemed very quick to try to point it out, trying to perform quick derailing with something that might actually have been put there intentionally for him to pick up on, trying to salvage your sinking ship of shining hope.
ReaperCharlie wrote:Can you PLEASE explain to the class, exactly when your read on Seacore switched [...] Apparently now you think that Seacore is town?
AurorusVox wrote:In other news, Seacore is looking townier in his responses. I doubt scum would still continue to beat the Furc issue, when 99% of people agree that Furc is town. I also like his summary of the RC wagon.
It happened around the time I posted that my read on Seacore switched.
ReaperCharlie wrote:And not just marginally town, but now a shining townie with a good case on somebody else? Someone you trust so thoroughly that you will now commence sheepage on his case without even doing your own ISO?
His case was the best of everyones, but MoI and VV have also also built a case on you that I read with interest. Seacore's was the one I felt was the strongest; and so his was the one I explicitly mentioned. I've done a very very quick ISO of you actually, and it didn't push me off the wagon, soo...

And just because I agree with his summary of your play doesn't mean he's a shining townie - he's a townish player with a good case on you and your responses to his points (essentially "meh" until you suddenly started defending yourself - a prompt in the QT perhaps?) didn't really stack up.
ReaperCharlie wrote:And even if you DID decide that your COMPLETE 180 on Seacore was warranted, it still doesn't explain your next post.

So can you please,
please
explain to me, what POSSIBLE sense I could then make of this post?

Why are you putting me and Seacore in the same category?

Are you saying that we're both TOWN?? If so, when did THAT change?
I'm putting you in the same category because I suspected El G was just voting for the biggest wagons, which at the time were you and Seacore. Interesting that he's stayed off yours but hopped on xvart's. And defended you. And called you 100% town.
GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME. DOESN'T SMELL OF CULT ON CULT ACTION