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Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:06 pm
by PeaceBringer
vote luna
can go that direction as well

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:07 pm
by PeaceBringer
vote luna

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:37 pm
by N
Needles
noun
a town in SE California: on Colorado River at Arizona line.

Vote Count 3.04
Luna Lovegood
( 2 ) DeasVail , PeaceBringer
Dante
( 0 )
DeasVail
( 0 )
Shadowy Poison
( 0 )
Rail Tracer
( 1 ) Kmd4390
PeaceBringer
( 2 ) Kid A
ooba
( 0 )
Kmd4390
( 1 ) Majiffy
Kid A
( 0 )
Mitillos
( 4 ) ooba , Rail Tracer , Shadowy Poison , BBmolla
RadiantCowbells
( 0 )
Majiffy
( 0 )
BBmolla
( 1 ) RadiantCowbells

Not voting:
Luna Lovegood , Dante , Mitillos

With 13 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline is in
(expired on 2013-10-22 02:25:12)

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:00 pm
by Rail Tracer
DV wrote:Assuming that my role is useful (which it's probably not), Mitillos is not the best lynch.
i appreciate that this is not at all vague and is very helpful.

thanks.

i'll look at your luna stuff in a bit. who would you want to lynch if luna is town?

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:35 pm
by Luna Lovegood
In post 1284, Mitillos wrote:Not really. The reason being that not everyone's behaviour was as (seemingly) clear-cut as Katsuki's/Pere's. Also, my main two scum-reads were completely wrong and I changed my mind about MUM shortly after that post, because of his power. So, I'll probably have to re-read everything and see if anything new catches my eye.
do this then.
In post 1284, Mitillos wrote:What exactly was the "Hmmph." about? I said in that same post that I wasn't going to explain all my reads explicitly.
exactly.

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:50 pm
by Rail Tracer
massclaim now?

i'm thinking a mass claim could work today. there's already a fair amount of claims on the table, and DV softclaiming something, etc etc.

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:54 pm
by Rail Tracer
Luna - ???
Dante - ???
DV - PR, something related to mitillos?
SP - ???
RT - ???
Peace - Daytalk Enabler
ooba - ???
kmd4390 - ???
kid A - Double-voter?
mitillos - ???
majiffy - PR, something negative utility
RC - Paranoid cop, neighbour
BB - Naive cop, neighbour

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:09 pm
by RadiantCowbells
More votes on BB.

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:12 pm
by PeaceBringer
In post 1332, RadiantCowbells wrote:More votes on BB.
NO! Get off it!!

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:30 pm
by Majiffy
In post 1331, Rail Tracer wrote:majiffy - PR, something negative utility
I don't personally think my role is negative utility but I suppose it could be argued either way / depends what kind of a player you are.

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:10 pm
by BBmolla
^PGO claim

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:11 am
by Rail Tracer
no that's not a PGO claim

massclaim today? yes / no?

i kind of want to sort this now

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:38 am
by N
Prodding Dante

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:45 am
by ooba
In post 1336, Rail Tracer wrote:no that's not a PGO claim

massclaim today? yes / no?

i kind of want to sort this now
I'm against the massclaim for a couple of reasons
- There are some drawbacks to an early mass claim. One you lose the advantage of someone who scum thought was an easy mislynch becoming a confirmed role late in the game.
- The benefit of an early mass claim vs a late one is to catch scum by surprise since they cannot coordinate. PB's role makes it certain that scum have daytalk. We've lost that advantage.
- Most of the roles claimed now fall into the useless category. The unclaimed should have (hopefully) something better and I'd rather not give scum a map on who the best kills should be.
DV wrote:Assuming that my role is useful (which it's probably not), Mitillos is not the best lynch.
I would however like a full or partial claim about this.

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:15 am
by ooba
How do you tell someone who is being active from someone who is trying to look active?

As for the answers being "readily available", this is only the case if you were to take BB's word as true, in advance. I do not propose to do this, because such assumptions are unwarranted.
Thought process.
Consider this for example.
- BB had already claimed he had a QT
- Peace had already claimed he was a day talk enabler
- You ask BB if his QT has day talk?
I'll let you work out what the problem is here.

Sure the Per\Peace thing might be a playstyle difference.

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:19 am
by Dante
We can mass claim if that's what everyone want.

Originally thought Majiffy's role was miller...but eventually concluded it was the PGO...so agree with BBmolla.

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:47 am
by Majiffy
I'm indifferent about massclaim.

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:30 am
by Mitillos
@ooba: Suppose BB (actually, I was asking RC, but whatever) said that they didn't have daytalk. What would you have done? If you are saying that my question was unnecessary, then you were accepting Peace's claim, without checking it. This is either foolish or scummy.

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:32 am
by DeasVail
I will almost fullclaim. If you want me to completely fullclaim after this, just let me know.

I am an investigative role. I can target one person each night and find out whether or not they are a _____ (typically a scum faction). I've targeted both Mitillos and BBmolla and found that they are not. The problem is, I don't know if there are any _____'s in the game considering the other roles that are here, so it wouldn't surprise me if there's no point to me resisting a Mitillos lynch.

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:21 am
by Mitillos
@DV: From your words, it seems like you investigated me on N1 and Molla on N2. Can you explain why you picked us to investigate?

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:14 pm
by RadiantCowbells
Nerewolf?

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:40 pm
by Rail Tracer
In post 1345, RadiantCowbells wrote:Nerewolf?
i laughed harder at this than i probably should have

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:43 pm
by Rail Tracer
DV, if blank is anything other than like "naughty nellie" or some retarded shit like that, i doubt your role does anything.

and even if it is something like that, i'm doubting we even have a real cop in this game.

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:26 pm
by N
Prodding Kid A and Shadowy Poison

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:34 pm
by DeasVail
Ok, that's probably what I needed to hear. My vote will probably be on Mitillos, but I want to read through him quickly before I do so, and this won't happen now.

Mitillos, you were someone who I thought could be scum that wasn't likely imo to be lynched incredibly soon. I didn't think too much about the N2 one because it was likely to me by then that I was useless, but it was just in case RC and BBmolla were some weird scum faction that corresponded to my role for some reason.