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In post 778, Zdenek wrote:Mainly for their interaction with Benmage which seemed like they were just trying to be antagonistic.

So you're telling me that "you're trying to be antagonistic" is a stronger scumread than "you can die?"

Kanye may just be being difficult for no reason.
He also looked okay in recent posts.

Is that a yes?

In this instance, yes, Kanye is not the person who I think is most likely to flip scum.

boy 1326 is wishy-washy

tomorrow (read: after we lynch ooba today) I will be looking carefully at you

When you do, you'll realize that I am obviously town.

k

In post 1320, quadz08 wrote:I reeeeeeeally don't like Ceph's last post. "sorry I didn't agree with you guyyyys" doesn't seem terribly townish to me.

Was talking to kanye, gtfo.

dude

"I'm sorry I didn't agree with you guys about kanye" is not talking to kanye

Well, it a good thing , huh?

In post 1319, Cephrir wrote:Kanye these last three pages is pretty crazy town. Sorry I couldn't see that before.

You also were clearly not directing that at Kanye either.
So...

Yes, it is not possible I was addressing those sentences to two different targets.

Go ahead, lynch me for my fucking word choice. Let me know when you're ready to play mafia instead.

In post 1336, Cephrir wrote:Yes, it is not possible I was addressing those sentences to two different targets.

R U srs?

Shadoweh, what would you say you've been trying to accomplish today? Could you also say a bit about your read on Ooba?

In post 1336, Cephrir wrote:Yes, it is not possible I was addressing those sentences to two different targets.

Go ahead, lynch me for my fucking word choice. Let me know when you're ready to play mafia instead.

How about you go ahead and clarify what was directed where?

Because we're not lynching you for word choice. If anything, it's the awful god damned grammar.

You're right, I didn't quote that word for word. It seemed pretty obvious to me (and seemingly to AGar and Thor as well) that it was directed to everyone else in the game, not Kanye.

Am I gonna lynch you for just that? No. Does it look like you're pretending you said something that you didn't say? Abso-fucking-lutely, and it will be kept in mind in the future.

Cephrir wrote:Kanye these last three pages is pretty crazy town [general statement]. Sorry I couldn't see that before. [read: sorry for suspecting you bro]

Why would I apologize to someone other than an individual for my read on that individual, that doesn't even make sense. I'm aware I had him at null in my read list but that was a move up from even earlier than that.

I'm going to try to explain, partially to myself, why I think ooba is town.

In post 1173, ooba wrote:

In post 1172, Tierce wrote:ooba - Why am I a "neutral" read?

You're not - You're a "Neutral-" meaning "leaning scum".

I appreciate this read on Tierce. With a lot of players townreading her (pretty sure you're female, sorry if wrong) "slightly leaning scum" is kind of an interesting tack- why would scum do this? She probably won't be lynched ever, so I don't see how this would benefit him or do anything other than cause an argument- which is exactly what it did.

In post 1177, ooba wrote:

In post 1175, Tierce wrote:

In post 1173, ooba wrote:

In post 1172, Tierce wrote:ooba - Why am I a "neutral" read?

You're not - You're a "Neutral-" meaning "leaning scum".

Missed that. Better yet! Why?

Vibe + Your major pushes in the game have been on Amrun and SafetyDance - both of whom I'm leaning town on and looked like very easy pushes at that time.

Both the nestled post and this post are town- the former for flippancy (which is something I personally like), and his criticism of momentum-oriented pushing (i.e. going for players who are currently being pressured) jives with the rest of his posting (including going after Shadoweh, which I could wish he'd do a bit more vigorously).

In post 1204, ooba wrote:

In post 1189, Shadoweh wrote:I wouldn't say it's the best reason, no,

but looking at the currently running choices you're the one I'd want lynched

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My question is - Why is that I rate higher over other people on 'want to lynch'?

In post 1189, Shadoweh wrote:You're never going to answer me are you? :/ NO ONE EVER ANSWERS ME.

When I read someone, usually a couple of posts jump at me as "town" or "scum"; in your case, every post has rubbed me the wrong way. Actually Pygmalion might not have been the most technically correct term to use there, but basically I meant the case where If "I assume you're scum and then proceed to read posts from you - obviously I'll find them scummy".

"I think all your posts are scummy, but I might be suffering from confirmation bias"- this is not how you drive a mislynch nor do I think it's likely he and Shadoweh are mutually bussing.

In post 1222, ooba wrote:@Quadz
- My top scum read jumped on to my wagon because 'oobas flaking' and im trying to figure out if that's it and why he isn't pushing other stronger scum reads?

And this is actually a pretty legitimate reason for suspecting Shadoweh. Sure, he could be screaming about it over and over, but that obviously isn't his style, nor should it be. The fact that that strategy actually works is a flaw with the players who tend to follow it, not with those of us who opt not to pursue it. In the meantime, he's still holding onto quadz while everyone else has dropped it; why bother?

That doesn't add up to "mind-blowingly town" but for me it's enough to say "why are we lynching this?"

I wasn't getting the suspicions at all until AGar laid it out for me, though I can't help wondering whether those who joined the wagon before his post actually had much of a basis. I think he could easily just be a bit slow on the uptake and would certainly expect more out of him in later days, but I don't think we'd be smart lynching here when we could lynch, you know, scum.

Meanwhile I'm trying not to be swayed by Garruk townreading me when they don't have to. It's impossible for me to view that action in an objective light, as a certain game has recently made me realize.

If we just insert the comma his comment makes sense.
...except that he then indicated it was directed at multiple people...?

I mean; Kanye, these last three pages is pretty crazy town. Sorry I couldn't see that before.

That works and makes sense if it's all directed at Kanye and all it says is he dun lrn commas gud. Big whoop.
But when he claims the sentence was directed to two different people...who the heck was the second one?

@Ceph - who was the second person?
Because even if I buy the first sentence was to Kanye, then, if the second sentence wasn't...then it looks like a toss out to everyone and then Quadz's point holds water and why did you growl at him for saying it?
And if the second sentence was directed at Kanye as well, and you deserved to growl at Quadz, then why did you lie to me and claim it was directed to someone else?

Nah, it's not a comma issue. The second sentence is directed to Kanye. The first is not.

I will do this I am sorry
please don't vig us

Even though Ceph's wording was strange, I don't think it was scummy. It doesn't look like an apology. It reads more like "oh hey, now I see that kanye is town."

@Kanye- They are, but those wagons aren't going to happen.

In post 1343, Cephrir wrote:Nah, it's not a comma issue. The second sentence is directed to Kanye. The first is not.

And any century now you'll do what I am am clearly driving for, and tell me who it was directed to.
I'll wait, this might take some time because people here like to answer half questions, then get more specific questions, then question them, then get more specific questions, all because they're scared of something.
I don't know what - I suppose it's fear of looking scummy.
But seriously people - stop wasting my time and pretending it's because you're clever.
Also, stop being scared, it twings my scumdar in addition to annoying me.

I dunno - how was I supposed to phrase that question for you to not only clarify that the second sentece was to Kanye, not the first, but to then also make the brilliant and helpful leap of providing info to just ruddy answer who both sentences were directed at since that was *blatantly* what I was asking?

hell, it's what Quadz asked and you decided to dance and play games with him too - creating a ruddy new page on this when it should have alreayd moved into the debate of if it *MEANT* anything rather than a prolonged effort just to ruddy gather the base facts!

In post 1345, StupendousMan wrote:It doesn't look like an apology.

Ceph has called it an apology.
Elsewhere in reality...

It was an agreement with a sentiment that had just been expressed by several others, including you, mollie and Garruk.