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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 4:27 pm
by Thor665
My case on you is - all those fake posts above this post.

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 4:27 pm
by Thor665
Well...previous page now.

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:15 pm
by T S O
I claim you have no case.
I flamboyantly attack you for it.
You then claim your case is that my flamboyancy makes me scum.

So until last night, you've been scumreading me for no reason.

Keep flailing, Thor.

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:14 am
by jasonT1981
Day 4 Vote Count 6

Smargaret 2 - T S O, Thor665,

Not voting

PeregrineV,
CrashTextDummie,
Bulbazak,
BROseidon,
smargaret,


V/LA

Bulbazak - 17th April
With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

(expired on 2014-04-20 15:11:00)

till Day 4 Deadline

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:24 pm
by Bulbazak
In post 1295, PeregrineV wrote:Would like to hear thoughts on why Porkens/Yates were killed.
No clue. Most likely had to do with how strong they were as town, but that begs the question of why more obv. town players, such as Scorp or Thor, weren't killed first.
In post 1302, CrashTextDummie wrote:Bulba, what are you trying to accomplish right now? A TSO lynch?
Yes. He's my strongest scumread.
In post 1302, CrashTextDummie wrote: Please give reads on Thor and Smargaret.
I'm a little paranoid of Thor due to the position we find ourselves in, but I still cling to that town read I developed. I have no clue on Smargaret. I'd rather her not be scum for flavor reasons, because Spider-Man as a fake claim would make me cry. However, I wouldn't balk at her lynch, and if I get back, and no one is willing to lynch TSO, I'll compromise on her. I'd much rather have a TSO lynch, though.
In post 1316, T S O wrote:No, it -is- impossible, because you're not good enough to swing players as strong as CTD, Bulba, Pere and BRO onto your side to mislynch me, who you don't even have any case or suspicions on except pre-flip associatives (lol), when smargaret is actively being a scumfuck and everyone else is actively proclaiming it.
:neutral:

Can we please lynch this?

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:38 pm
by BROseidon
This might be bias from the start of the game, but I'm thinking Smarg/Bulba at this point.

Where the fuck are p5 and CTD

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:11 pm
by T S O
Bulba, can you explain why you're scumreading me?

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:20 am
by PeregrineV
In post 1330, BROseidon wrote:This might be bias from the start of the game, but I'm thinking Smarg/Bulba at this point.

Where the fuck are p5 and CTD
We're here. We're discussing our various interpretations of day1.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:22 am
by T S O
In post 1330, BROseidon wrote:This might be bias from the start of the game, but I'm thinking Smarg/Bulba at this point.

Where the fuck are p5 and CTD
yes/maybe

Why Bulba over Thor, though?

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:46 am
by Thor665
In post 1327, T S O wrote:I claim you have no case.
I flamboyantly attack you for it.
You then claim your case is that my flamboyancy makes me scum.

So until last night, you've been scumreading me for no reason.

Keep flailing, Thor.
Ah yes, the ol' "keep flailing" tell. Because I am clearly feeling the pressure. I'm not even talking lynching you today, as far as you're aware I'm talking about lynching my scumbuddy today - and yet you're wailing that I haven't made a case to lynch you yet.

Hint: the case comes tomorrow my friend, not today.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:30 am
by T S O
Hint: you have no case and you're pretending you do.
Hint: you're going down tomorrow.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:59 am
by CrashTextDummie
I'm not set on a Smargaret lynch. I think I may want to lynch Bulba.

I'll be in Italy from 17-26th of April, on semi-V/LA. Regular phone posts are possible but heavy duty analysis will have to happen before that. I've set a couple of hours aside tomorrow to figure this game out.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:32 am
by T S O
CTD, will you talk to me about Thor?

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:13 pm
by Thor665
In post 1335, T S O wrote:Hint: you have no case and you're pretending you do.
What is your theory for this being my plan if you're convinced I'm bussing Smargaret? That I'll somehow get to go into tomorrow without having to make a case on you? I can totally see the scumvantage there...wait...no, actually I don't.

What's your boggle, specifically?

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:38 pm
by T S O
It's not about an advantage - you simply don't have a case, so it's not a question of when you "reveal" it - there's nothing to reveal. You haven't stated one word of suspicion on why I'm scum, at all, and I'm not going to sit down and let you call me scum with no justification.

I really, really want you to be scum.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:16 pm
by Bulbazak
In post 1331, T S O wrote:Bulba, can you explain why you're scumreading me?
In post 1212, Bulbazak wrote:I found his defense of Zekrom on d1 to be pretty scummy, and there was something else from the previous day phase, although I can't remember what it is.
I'll go ISO diving to find what I found off when I get back on Thursday.
In post 1336, CrashTextDummie wrote:I'm not set on a Smargaret lynch.
Why the change of heart? You've been pushing her for awhile now.
In post 1336, CrashTextDummie wrote: I think I may want to lynch Bulba.
Why am I scum?

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:49 pm
by smargaret
And I totally missed the fact that I wasn't voting (and nobody called me on it? Seriously?)

Vote: TSO

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:23 pm
by T S O
In post 1212, Bulbazak wrote:I found his defense of Zekrom on d1 to be pretty scummy, and there was something else from the previous day phase, although I can't remember what it is.

I'll go ISO diving to find what I found off when I get back on Thursday.
Why was my defence of Zekrom scummy? From my recollections, it wasn't even a defence.
In post 1341, smargaret wrote:And I totally missed the fact that I wasn't voting (and nobody called me on it? Seriously?)

Vote: TSO
Now, here's the bit where you give some reasoning. Oh wait, you've got none, because you're scum.

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:55 am
by CrashTextDummie
In post 1337, T S O wrote:CTD, will you talk to me about Thor?
Sure.

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:56 am
by CrashTextDummie
In post 1340, Bulbazak wrote:Why the change of heart? You've been pushing her for awhile now.
I have doubts about my read.

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:39 am
by CrashTextDummie
At this point, Bulba's scumhunting effort is even more desolate than Smargaret's. It was better before, but it has completely disintegrated today. The reasoning for Smargaret's reads may be questionable, but at least she has reads. The fact that Bulba still won't analyse Smargaret is baffling to me and what little he has to say (Spider-Man being a fake claim would upset him) is bizarre. His TSO read is weak and problematic. He already pushed TSO for defending Zekrom on D1 (i.e. pre-flip) and I think this may have been an attempt to deflect. Considering his own position on Zekrom and the fact that Smargaret has actually been proven to have defended Zekrom based on inconsistent reasoning, that's a very surface level reason to suspect TSO.

Bulba claims that he's trying to accomplish a TSO lynch, but he has done preciously little to actually get there. The only thing he's accomplishing right now with his play is to not disrupt a Smargaret lynch. I disagree with Bro that Bulba/Smargaret is a very likely scum team, for this reason and for Bulba's general conduct towards Smarg. Given the landscape of reads and pushes right now, I also see him as more likely scum with one of TSO/Thor than I do Smargaret.

TSO and Thor are treating it as a foregone conclusion that Smargaret will flip scum and I'm uncomfortable with that. If she's in fact not scum, that kind of attitude gets scum to lylo the fastest.

I actively dislike Thor's recent line of reasoning against Smargaret that an all-town Antihero wagon is even more unlikely than an all-town Zekrom wagon. If Smargaret is town, all three wagons yesterday were on town and scum would have had no pressing need to give preference to one over the other. If anything, I think they'd want to stick to the lynch that would get rid of the strongest (or rather most active, to be modest) available town player, and that implicates Thor and Bulba.

I haven't decided yet if the Zekrom wagon points towards Thor scum. I still think it would have been exceptionally odd if he went down without bussing, but that makes the PA kill problematic. Either Thorscum didn't consider the implication of PA town/wasn't aware that he was narrowing down the pool of potential Zekrom-bussers to just himself, or Thorscum thought he could talk his way out of it, or Thor isn't scum. I'd consider the first option as a rather large blunder on his part, so I'm hesitant to buy it.

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:39 am
by CrashTextDummie
Vote: Bulba

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:00 am
by jasonT1981
Check in - Mod still here

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:29 am
by T S O
It's worth saying that Thor's confidence in himself is, as evidenced, rather high, CTD.

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:22 am
by BROseidon
VOTE: bulba

Still like this more than Smarg.