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like I just feel Shiny has been like for the past fucking week



and then you have like sheep #3000 or as some people call him, Sharpest-knife-on-tree (insert joke of choice; "you're not that fucking sharp")



then we've got Xayzeck



and finally we have Rach.

lol jordan is town

In post 727, Jordan_Downey wrote:Whelp, after conferring with Jingle I'll be moving on at this point. I'm personally not seeing the Talah scum in the thread, and don't have much faith in meta, especially when it's not my experience.

Fear and spring starflower still sticking out on review.

SKOT has been pinging me recently, re-reading his iso his posts are wishy washy and I think he might include more qualifiers then me. He continuously mentions just poking Necro for reactions, just poking. 446 he calls them out for feeling evasive, but then counters by saying it's a null tell. Then 648 Necro gives you a good what for and he replies with 667, "Well I didn't really call you scum." Went from sitting on a fence to full on backtracking. Then the, I have suspicions on you but well sheep you anyways, because hey, I'm going to vote out noise instead of actually scumhunt.

VOTE: SKOT

town town town town town this is a 100% correct post

In post 1006, Jordan_Downey wrote:

In post 886, T S O wrote:He kinda reminds me of Syryana in Open 526, (though I know that's ancient for you), because he's not actually refuting any points, it's just deflection, deflection, deflection. And Syryana was scum that game.

I've disagreed with TSO but up until this point thought it came from town. This is a huge reach, as there is no way someone else's meta is going to apply to Xay. It's is scummy to me. It reads to me as the wagon might fall apart at any time, lets throw everything at it, which is a null tell until you start throwing completely irrelevant stuff into it.

i remembered reading this post and thinking it was town because i totally agreed with almost all of it but i forgot who posted it. he's wrong about tso and xayzeck subtle reads but the callout is incredibly on point and it's like getting into my head almost as much as tso did more recently. just because jordan's posts sound detached doesn't mean he's scum, which iirc was a main reason for the scumread on him. i think it's more likely it was like me and just stopped caring for a bit until there was stuff that absolutely needed a response to

jordan is town. aegor is town. please lynch xayzeck we were so close to it

[marquis]

actually since the xayzeck wagon kind of broke apart is it still possible to get a dry fit lynch because rereading post 169 again please, it's horrible and the "point" he makes for the scumread in it is completely invalid

UNVOTE:
VOTE: dry-fit

[marquis]

Marquis, go read the Ice & Fire we played where I tunneled Dry-fit for being worse than that and he was Town. He looks scum as fuck.

You should also note Jordan's a good fucking scumplayer - here's meta.

i was looking through dry fit's open fire and ice game then i realized there was a different fire and ice that you meant

but you're wrong, dry fit is still scum and the read's actually probably stronger now. there's a huge difference in dry fit's tone in these games. in the large normal as town, his tone and attitude even pre-wagon-on-him (as well as during the wagon) sound much angrier at people accusing him.

in his iso here, it's much much much more polite and reserved. it's a lot of reads/comments on players, sure, but dry fit is cool as in calm. the general feelings of his responses that i can see are

that town game: this is horrible you're horrible fuck off
this game: lol ok then

i think the measure of his confidence here and reservedness or whatever the word is is a lot different from there. you can compare him getting scumreads sure but the way he deals with them contrast too much to be the same alignment

pedit this is a minor thing but i think in that game taking the time to sign their posts so as to not have to get caught up in flipflops-where-it's-not-a-flipflop-because-different-head is maybe important. do you get what i mean?? it's a small detail but eh.

more importantly as scum jordan is apparently much more into the game and less detached. they're making much longer and more involved posts there; it makes sense with heads being the kinds of players who prefer scum to town. jordan is active now, but it feels like they've stopped caring as much about this game.

and i was about to go on with specific examples/quotes seeing as jordan's at l-1 already but then i realized since he's at l-1 we're just to wait until the deadline to actually think about jordan being town then lynch the slot anyway out of "no time"/apathy.

[marquis]

In post 1332, Marquis wrote:i was looking through dry fit's open fire and ice game then i realized there was a different fire and ice that you meant

but you're wrong, dry fit is still scum and the read's actually probably stronger now. there's a huge difference in dry fit's tone in these games. in the large normal as town, his tone and attitude even pre-wagon-on-him (as well as during the wagon) sound much angrier at people accusing him.

in his iso here, it's much much much more polite and reserved. it's a lot of reads/comments on players, sure, but dry fit is cool as in calm. the general feelings of his responses that i can see are

that town game: this is horrible you're horrible fuck off
this game: lol ok then

i think the measure of his confidence here and reservedness or whatever the word is is a lot different from there. you can compare him getting scumreads sure but the way he deals with them contrast too much to be the same alignment

pedit this is a minor thing but i think in that game taking the time to sign their posts so as to not have to get caught up in flipflops-where-it's-not-a-flipflop-because-different-head is maybe important. do you get what i mean?? it's a small detail but eh.

more importantly as scum jordan is apparently much more into the game and less detached. they're making much longer and more involved posts there; it makes sense with heads being the kinds of players who prefer scum to town. jordan is active now, but it feels like they've stopped caring as much about this game.

and i was about to go on with specific examples/quotes seeing as jordan's at l-1 already but then i realized since he's at l-1 we're just to wait until the deadline to actually think about jordan being town then lynch the slot anyway out of "no time"/apathy.

[marquis]

sorry bulba i knew i was typing this up under my main but i was too far gone to care

[still marquis]

meh, you make me agree with everything you say, but we're kidding ourselves if we think anything but JD is going through.

I'll switch if you want, but eh.

SOMEONE PLEASE VIG XAYZECK OR SKOT. XAYZECK FOR BEING SCUM, SKOT FOR THAT AND BEING SKOT. THANK YOU, TSO

In post 1325, T S O wrote:and then you have like sheep #3000 or as some people call him, Sharpest-knife-on-tree (insert joke of choice; "you're not that fucking sharp")

IF I was a sheep, I certainly would be sitting on Xay, so that is misrep of all time. And you prove yourself not that sharp either. You do not have to be sharp to be the sharpest knife on tree... just saying.

In post 727, Jordan_Downey wrote:SKOT has been pinging me recently, re-reading his iso his posts are wishy washy and I think he might include more qualifiers then me. He continuously mentions just poking Necro for reactions, just poking. 446 he calls them out for feeling evasive, but then counters by saying it's a null tell. Then 648 Necro gives you a good what for and he replies with 667, "Well I didn't really call you scum." Went from sitting on a fence to full on backtracking. Then the, I have suspicions on you but well sheep you anyways, because hey, I'm going to vote out noise instead of actually scumhunt.

Hey, when you are getting run up, pick a target and start finding out reasons others may attend to, to try and start a counter wagon. Your representation of my engagement with Necro is entirely a misrepresentation. But hey, thanks for making me feel better about that vote.

In post 1336, Sharpest-knife-on-tree wrote:IF I was a sheep, I certainly would be sitting on Xay

i don't know why i don't like this but i don't like this.

[marquis]

In post 1334, T S O wrote:meh, you make me agree with everything you say, but we're kidding ourselves if we think anything but JD is going through.

i know. i realized almost at the end of the meta explanation why jordan is town that it was pointless but i wasn't going to just delete it all.

[marquis]

i'm really proud of the distinction i spotted between the two jordans though so here it is in shorter form so you all have no excuse for seeing it

this is jordan as engaged and long-winded scum: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go
this is jordan now, detached and making short and quick points: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

jordan is town but it's going to end up being an "wow lots of people like this wagon time to sheep it" lynch.

ah fuck iso links break.

just iso jordan in both games

[marquis]

In post 1340, Doublade wrote:i'm really proud of the distinction i spotted between the two jordans though so here it is in shorter form so you all have no excuse for seeing it

this is jordan as engaged and long-winded scum:

http://goo.gl/94IUl2

this is jordan now, detached and making short and quick points:

http://goo.gl/6q8LVH

jordan is town but it's going to end up being an "wow lots of people like this wagon time to sheep it" lynch.

goo.gl links work

[marquis]

In post 1336, Sharpest-knife-on-tree wrote: And you prove yourself not that sharp either.

In post 1342, Doublade wrote:jordan is town but it's going to end up being an "wow lots of people like this wagon time to sheep it until it's too late to realize otherwise so we have no choice but to keep ignoring scum and lynch town" lynch.

fixed

[marquis]

So, hopefully Jingle well be in here with some things to say. I wanted to mention a few things.

TSO: In that multi-ball why do you think we looked town? What made us a "good fucking scumplayer?"

Also, wow. We get a three day extension so everyone decides to run up someone to potentially get lynched. Including some really HORRIBLE math by TSO stating we are l-3 when we are at l-2 with a vote count four posts up? Good job. Really hope they don't ever let you near a cash register.

SKOT: 1337 ... Did you make this horrible post just so you could take the 1337 post? What makes you "feel better about that vote" is a single post from halfway through the game at this point? Okay. I'll come back to that when I have a chance to pull up everything, but you tell us to pick a target?! How about the numerous other people that had such big cases on their scum reads and yet after a deadline extension decide it's a good time to run a player up the flag pole without actual discussion? Cause your post is about as town as what has happened these last few pages.

I have no interest in doing analysis on your scumplay for you, Jordan, I've clearly said I want to lynch Xayzeck over you. If you can fool me, I think you're good at scum, and you did in that game.

Go ahead and claim if you're a PR so we can restart Xayzeck.

"Go ahead and claim if you're a PR so we can restart Xayzeck."

^Pretty much this^

In post 1345, Jordan_Downey wrote:but you tell us to pick a target?! How about the numerous other people that had such big cases on their scum reads and yet after a deadline extension decide it's a good time to run a player up the flag pole without actual discussion? Cause your post is about as town as what has happened these last few pages.

no I did not tell you to pick a target, that is what you did with vote. Hmm, who is someone who may be easy to deflect toward.

We are a PR, but not an especially powerful one. I'll fullclaim in a minute.

On the other hand, I've got some setup thoughts I want to get out before the day ends, so no one hammer yet.