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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:10 am
by Anatole Kuragin
Why SKOT over muffin or titus?

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:11 am
by BBmolla
mastin is voting SKOT

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:12 am
by BBmolla
But I could seriously live with either of their lynches as well, Muffin had that weird as fuck interaction a while back and Titus doesn't exist

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:13 am
by Anatole Kuragin
Mastin isn't screaming town to me

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:18 am
by zMuffinMan
to be fair, titus not existing today appears to be a site-wide thing, but titus's lack of any real presence for the entire game is because she's probably scum

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:20 am
by Anatole Kuragin
mastin2 wrote:
zMuffinMan wrote:what do you think of titus's play?
If I'm completely, 100% totally and brutally honest?

It sucks. Her play sucks so badly that it's almost physically painful to watch to the point where part of me would wonder how anyone could possibly see her as being town with her overall attitude here and just how sucky it is.

...And yet, that specifically
because
of her god-awful play, I can't think of it as *actually* being scum-Titus. Yeah, yeah, I know, BoP for scumplay is a rather bad thing to use as a standard, but can't help that I feel that way.

Also, fair enough on Messiah, though I still am not sure 'bout Dan.


Titus and Mastin scum partners, yall?

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:22 am
by zMuffinMan
mastin is town

or i really, really, really suck

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:46 am
by Dr Pants
zMuffinMan wrote:to be fair, titus not existing today appears to be a site-wide thing, but titus's lack of any real presence for the entire game is because she's probably scum


If Ika was scum reading Titus, chances are Titus is scum.

here's Ika's test for Titus: If what titus is saying doesn't make any sense, or if her arguments are a little farfetched, then Titus is town. If everything Titus is saying makes sense and sounds perfectly reasonable, Titus is scum. This came up when I was a mason with Ika in How Do You Want To Die?, and it ended up correctly pegging Titus as scum.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:49 am
by Anatole Kuragin
I don't even know who I am currently voting, but I would switch to Titus. Something definitely feels off about her game.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:38 pm
by Xisiqomelir
zMuffinMan wrote:
Xisiqomelir wrote:Hello friends, I am now powerless.

i thought you were saving your shot for a claimed PR or something. who did you use it on?


Obv will not be answering this question

zMuffinMan wrote:
Xisiqomelir wrote:I think these slots are entirely town: Majvenmar, Molla, Slandaar, Dan, Titus, SKOT

why is titus town? why is skot town?


Titus is expressing genuine antipathy towards you in 1106.

Now, I've never played with her before, but generally scum are less direct.

@Titus
: Links to your last 2 scum games please.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:42 pm
by Xisiqomelir
zMuffinMan wrote:why is skot town?


He is the designated mislynch bait. Look at how he can't even string together 2 coherent sentences per post. I won't lynch people just for BAM.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:44 pm
by Xisiqomelir
Anatole Kuragin wrote:
This slot has been occupied by two lazy, disinterested people.

That apparently makes us not town. Cool case bro.


Please address the substance of my concerns. Why didn't you vote Slandaar in the end?

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:01 pm
by Messiah Complex
Xisiqomelir wrote:
zMuffinMan wrote:why is skot town?


He is the designated mislynch bait. Look at how he can't even string together 2 coherent sentences per post. I won't lynch people just for BAM.


this is really really dumb

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:02 pm
by TheAdrienC
I dunno, the game I just completed, SKOT was lynched for similar reasons and he flipped town tracker.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:12 pm
by Anatole Kuragin
Xisiqomelir wrote:
Anatole Kuragin wrote:
This slot has been occupied by two lazy, disinterested people.

That apparently makes us not town. Cool case bro.


Please address the substance of my concerns. Why didn't you vote Slandaar in the end?


Not enough to make a case on.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:00 pm
by Xisiqomelir
Messiah Complex wrote:
vote: theadrienc


this is the lynch we can believe in


Discuss please. I want to get a firmer idea of that slot myself.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:29 pm
by Sharpest-knife-on-tree
Mastin voting me is expected, I would be shocked if she didn't.
BMolla appears lazier than me at the moment
both directions appear worthwhile. Looking over titus, nothing that gives me a warm fuzzy on her. I did not like BBT either.
Vote Titus

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:58 pm
by zMuffinMan
Xisiqomelir wrote:Obv will not be answering this question

there is literally no reason to not answer seeing as it's already used

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:59 pm
by zMuffinMan
o wait, is it for the next night? if so, never mind

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:03 pm
by zMuffinMan
Xisiqomelir wrote:Titus is expressing genuine antipathy towards you in 1106

no she isn't

titus is scum, and that response is in no way, shape or form a town response

but i think it's best not to talk about this anymore because it's borderline breaching site rules

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:56 pm
by TheAdrienC
I'm not a big fan when someone shows apathy. My read on Titus is starting to change.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:29 pm
by mastin2
Dr Pants wrote:for one thing, despite taking on the town leader role day 2 and part of day 3, none of Mastins pushes have gone through
When I take on the role of town leader, I can tell you right here and now I get results. Problem is, I don't trust myself enough with the position. So quite intentional, I assure you. I don't seek that sort of power.

but instead of continuing to push those scum reads, Mastin moves to new scum reads
Reads evolve?

and now the reason we've mislynched is because we suck, and not the total lack of commitment from Mastin, who apparently has the game solved
Hey, I didn't say I didn't suck. I objectively sucked for what happened before D3. I'm not really feeling it for some reason in my game, here, so that's likely to continue into D5 (assuming I survive N4 of course, though I see no reason I wouldn't). Maybe not suck as badly, but still suck.

...Doesn't mean what you did wasn't sucky and that you don't suck. :P

zMuffinMan wrote:the push on me for the slip was just as bad, and yeah, ok, she's playing awful regardless of her alignment. i don't see how you think that makes her less likely to be scum, though.
Experience? Titus as scum is catchable, but while almost always obviously scum to me, her posting as scum never actually *sucks* when scum. It's blatantly scum, because her scumplay for some reason seems to be fairly transparent to me. (Not with perfect accuracy, mind you; I trust others' reads on her more than my own more often than not as a result. But at the very least, I know that SHE thinks highly of my ability to read her, given our overall interactions across games.)

In contrast, Titus as town, while a rare sight to be seen...kinda does? Like, the immediate off-the top-of-my-head example is Organic Chemistry; her posting there was awful and yet town and I correctly was able to pick up on her having been town.

Also, gut. Just kinda feel she's town.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:34 pm
by mastin2
ReallySexyDudes wrote:Why do the current wagons make everyone else terrible?
Well because the two main wagons are Titus and zMuffinman. Titus logic is explained already. When it comes to zMuffinman, keep in mind that with my current (for lack of a better term) apathetic mindset reduces my accuracy, but that I HAVE held a 100% accuracy in reading him and there's a ton of the right notes in there. Lots of circumstantial stuff, but enough all the same. The players defending him, the players nightkilled, some of the stuff he's said, just don't think it's the scum-him. While not the sacred-trust-level of town means that he COULD be scum, simply feel like he isn't.

Soooooooooooooo...both wagons today suck.
Both wagons yesterday suck.
Ergo, those on one/both wagons one/both days...suck.

(Again, doesn't mean I DON'T suck, though. :P We'll likely find out by tomorrow.)

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:35 pm
by mastin2
ReallySexyDudes wrote:Probably worth mentioning, but AP, one of the players in Power Townie, townread Titus. Ika on the other hand scumread Titus. They were both going to fake either a (tracker) guilty on BBMolla, or Titus. But they both agreed that Muffin was the best lynch between us.
How recently were those talks exactly?

Very vital question.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:38 pm
by mastin2
ReallySexyDudes wrote:
Scum: Xisi, Muffin, Molla, Pants, SKOT, TheAdrienC
Definitely willing to look at Xisi again and might consider Molla, though I'm obviously not sure on that front.

Still, though. Can see Adrien/SKOT, but not so much Pants, nor am I willing to lynch zMuffinman simply because I'm not invested enough to lock a read down. (I'd only lynch zMuffinman if I had put in the time and still couldn't get a lock. I have not.)