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VOTE: jjh please count this 5 times

JK is our weakest PR anyway I feel...

lol.
WELL THEN.

I don't know why I'm posting instead of voting.
I'm just a little in shock that Jailkeeper is the fake claim.
Anyone have further discussion they want to have before I drop the hammer?

At your service.

pedit: same. Why not fakeclaim cop or vig?

I think JJH is at L-2 though so we need 1 more Zoro.

Well now I feel stupid.

This game state just doesn’t make sense. It’s an open, why fake claim JK (either of you, we don’t have 2x JK unless I’m massively misunderstanding the setup).

What if the dinosaur is scum and he's going to use the fact that jjh claimed jk to argue that he can't possibly be on the scumteam

Yeah, CCs are impossible, it can help in LYLO if you manage to come out as the victor between two claims.

IDK why they'd claim JK either but okay...

What do you mean ruru?

He's known for his mechanical play so the assumption is that if he were scum, he would tell his teammates to make optimal claims

In post 1281, Mathdino wrote:I don't believe it because I'm pretty sure that's what scum would do

Anyway I still find this odd, could be tmi

Hmmmm how is this what scum would do

Sorry I hit submit too early.

Why wouldn't they fakeclaim and thereby out Cop or Vig? Then either the outed one will get Jailkept which costs town shots plus neutralizes the powerrole (which I'd deem more valuable than JK) or they are killed at night.

Yeah, I'm not sure what he was thinking if he's town

I also felt like he could have been trying to dumbtell on that page, reading line one and not line two of the three-line pagetop just seems a bit implausible to me

Now I'm wondering is tw still scum (assuming jjh scum)? I'm curious what in particular nsg saw as theatrical about them

I guess tw softing there makes sense if like tw is doctor and jjh is rolecop or something, tw gets the towncred when jjh flips and the stronger scum roles stay alive

I think it’s best to leave the Math meta-suspicion in the land of WIFOM. Chalk it up as NAI and laugh at him if he tries to leverage it later.
It doesn’t make him scummier, it doesn’t make him townier, it’s just a thing that happened.

I wouldn't have brought it up if I didn't find 1279/1281 independently weird

I mean, jjh claiming jk make Md less likely to be scum in a vacuum

Obvious note should be obvious:
If JJH flips jailer then vig should think really hard about leveling if they want to shoot HWS for fake counterclaiming, since scum doc will very likely be on HWS.

Obviously true but he's not gonna flip jailer

Information you have != information I have.
I hope for a bright and shiny world where everything is great and we chain lynch scum, I plan for the world where we don’t.

I know

More strongly, I think shooting hws should be a quite infrequent play for vig there

Scum have to doc him frequently anyway, and a vig guilty on hws is useless whereas it usually gives a lot of information

But there's like no way jjh flips town right? I think?

In post 1332, ruru wrote:What if the dinosaur is scum and he's going to use the fact that jjh claimed jk to argue that he can't possibly be on the scumteam

Completely offtopic, but I love the emote. It's one of my favorites especially when used sarcastically.

L-1

In post 1337, ruru wrote:Yeah, I'm not sure what he was thinking if he's town

I also felt like he could have been trying to dumbtell on that page, reading line one and not line two of the three-line pagetop just seems a bit implausible to me

Now I'm wondering is tw still scum (assuming jjh scum)? I'm curious what in particular nsg saw as theatrical about them

I guess tw softing there makes sense if like tw is doctor and jjh is rolecop or something, tw gets the towncred when jjh flips and the stronger scum roles stay alive

Ugh I’m too tired to think this through but I’d like to know what seemed fake about jjh’s jk claim to duckling

I think we should wait for nsg to elaborate on the theater she saw before ending the day