He's got this thing where he likes his hammer, and he likes his wagons. So the fact that he's ignoring the big wagon to jump onto the vanity wagon is pretty eyebrow raisy, and I want him to explain why.
Your presence on the pile of consonants and vowels wagon is less striking, given that it matches to your claimed role and desires. I also dig the fact you're trying to get the infos, as it makes me think you're townsiding.
This matched my thinking exactly - he vanity wagoned on me when he was scum in another game. I guess his initial behaviour around Elsa's claim could be LAMIST rather than Town Indicative.
In post 1319, Thor665 wrote:1. Do you disagree with me that it's odd that he is posting with confusion about multiball but apparently hanging around and active reading what's happening? You don't see any suspicion with that as a playstyle choice?
Any problem I have with this playstyle is connected to the lack of backreading, which I find confusing. I'm not sure what people gain out of engaging with people that makes it so good for scumhunting they don't need to also catch up on everything that's happened. But apparently that's not AI, since some people just don't backread (including you this game, apparently)?
Trying to equate his playstyle to mine is really weird - I clearly am not playing like him, nor have I advocated not understanding the game.
if you agree with me that his timing and confusion paired with keeping up on some things, but not all things is questionable - why are you arguing so hard that he's town off gut?
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:00 pm
by Thor665
In post 1324, Nancy Drew Shogunate wrote:porkens' lurking is straight up NAI and he didn't display any confusion about multiball, he just apparently didn't know who was talking about it first.
1. I didn't call his lurking scummy in any way at all - so...redefine your case on me to what I actually said and did, yeah?
I called him as active lurking and faking not knowing what's going on in an attempt to avoid doing anything, and noted that he wasn't trying to game solve.
Why do you think i wouldn't find that scummy? It's not from anything I've ever said in any game ever, so...?
2. Are we playing word games? Okay, fine, I clarify my comment of "confused about multiball" to "confused about who instigated multiball discussion and deciding it was a valid scumtell to vote Elsa over" Feel free to explain how that changes anything now that I've used more words to make more specifically clear what he pretended to be confused about.
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:05 pm
by Nancy Drew Shogunate
1. he doesn't feel like he is active lurking at all.
2. you're still using the word "confusion" to give porkens' posting some characteristic that isn't there. not knowing who talked about multiball first isn't being confused by it. it's not like porkens suggested someone else did it first, is it?
how is that faking confusion about anything? I don't see it.
-tor
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:11 pm
by Flicker
In post 1332, Thor665 wrote:Trying to equate his playstyle to mine is really weird - I clearly am not playing like him, nor have I advocated not understanding the game.
if you agree with me that his timing and confusion paired with keeping up on some things, but not all things is questionable - why are you arguing so hard that he's town off gut?
I'm not. I feel like these points are misrepresentations of what I've said, but I'm tired and my team got shut out today, so with all due respect, I'm done with this conversation.
flavour reminds me of Protomen. or should i say lack of.
Can you elaborate on this? Is it just the lack of knowing exactly who you are that makes it feel that way or is there something else?
Also ... Hi!
~Drixx
that and this game are the only two i've been in so far to have "flavour revealed on flip".
and since Almost was in Protomen with us, i'd wondered if they were related.
i also do believe it's possible to puzzle out flavour by our roles, because Almost asked me for my guess, but i don't know anything about Firefly.
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:59 pm
by Chara
i can post again. hi!
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:00 pm
by Chara
i can also confirm TPFKAP is Porkens, unless Maplewood was lying to me. did not realize it was in doubt, really.
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:21 pm
by Nancy Drew Shogunate
Hi Chara, it’s been awhile.
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:26 pm
by BuJaber
For what it's worth I think both lurker wagons would be good for us, especially now that there's been some back and forth from the people on each wagon.
But people townreading TFPKAP already are lying to themselves.
There's nothing there. There's nothing in Nico's ISO
The difference between RR and them is in addition to what I've already said, he's engaging with people and keeping up with his word vomit. And I see it is a very excessively exhausting way to maintain fake towncred if that's what he's going for. He could fake reads and post less and choose to engage people selectively instead of doing this. He's being brazenly rediculously irrelevant and attracting attention like a magnet. Also the early wagon on him was weird and I'm fairly confident one or more of the voters were scum. I'd rather first get some scum flips before starting to consider the possibility of some sort of SvS wagon.
So RR is likely town, one or both of Nico/TFKPAP are likely scum.
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 12:39 am
by Thor665
In post 1334, Nancy Drew Shogunate wrote:1. he doesn't feel like he is active lurking at all.
2. you're still using the word "confusion" to give porkens' posting some characteristic that isn't there. not knowing who talked about multiball first isn't being confused by it. it's not like porkens suggested someone else did it first, is it?
1. So he doesn't feel like he's showing up and posting nothing? Even though anyone can look at his ISO, see at most 3 scumhunting posts, and blatantly be able to recognize that he never follows up on anything? How would you like to describe his posting if not active lurk? I'kk use other words - but it has to be clear to you he's not actually advancing the game, yeah?
2. What word would you like me to use? Unawareness? Lack of understanding? Proof/faking of not reading and then acting like it is a scumtell which is nonsensical? I feel like these are all valid and hold to my point?
You didn't explain why you made up meta about me yet either.
how is that faking confusion about anything? I don't see it.
-tor
As I said to your other head - change it to whatever you like, it's proof he either does (or is faking) lack or awareness/lack of reading/lack of jbowing what's going on even though he's clearly actively following the game but Flicker was backed into a corner by me about that and then fled and everyone is still wasting time on me and will probably town read Flicker, RR, and everyone else about this because as far as I can tell everyone is now using a different rulebook for what qualifies as being "helpful to town in any way at all" and I never got the memo.
Like, does this post highlight TPFKAP knowing...anything? Scumhunting anything? What the hell about this pleases you at all? Describe the pro-town plan to me and I'll happily go away, but why are you trying to definition debate me and then acting surprised I find your play trash this game?
In post 1332, Thor665 wrote:Trying to equate his playstyle to mine is really weird - I clearly am not playing like him, nor have I advocated not understanding the game.
if you agree with me that his timing and confusion paired with keeping up on some things, but not all things is questionable - why are you arguing so hard that he's town off gut?
I'm not. I feel like these points are misrepresentations of what I've said, but I'm tired and my team got shut out today, so with all due respect, I'm done with this conversation.
I am very frustrated by this response.
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:41 am
by NicoRobin
yo
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 3:26 am
by Chickadee
I can also confirm it’s porkens. It stands for The Player Formerly Known As Porkens
In post 1334, Nancy Drew Shogunate wrote:1. he doesn't feel like he is active lurking at all.
2. you're still using the word "confusion" to give porkens' posting some characteristic that isn't there. not knowing who talked about multiball first isn't being confused by it. it's not like porkens suggested someone else did it first, is it?
1. So he doesn't feel like he's showing up and posting nothing? Even though anyone can look at his ISO, see at most 3 scumhunting posts, and blatantly be able to recognize that he never follows up on anything? How would you like to describe his posting if not active lurk? I'kk use other words - but it has to be clear to you he's not actually advancing the game, yeah?
2. What word would you like me to use? Unawareness? Lack of understanding? Proof/faking of not reading and then acting like it is a scumtell which is nonsensical? I feel like these are all valid and hold to my point?
You didn't explain why you made up meta about me yet either.
how is that faking confusion about anything? I don't see it.
-tor
As I said to your other head - change it to whatever you like, it's proof he either does (or is faking) lack or awareness/lack of reading/lack of jbowing what's going on even though he's clearly actively following the game but Flicker was backed into a corner by me about that and then fled and everyone is still wasting time on me and will probably town read Flicker, RR, and everyone else about this because as far as I can tell everyone is now using a different rulebook for what qualifies as being "helpful to town in any way at all" and I never got the memo.
Like, does this post highlight TPFKAP knowing...anything? Scumhunting anything? What the hell about this pleases you at all? Describe the pro-town plan to me and I'll happily go away, but why are you trying to definition debate me and then acting surprised I find your play trash this game?
I can’t speak for Tor but A) you first tell me that you’re scumreading our slot, then demand I “blindly sheep” you on a slot I think could be town. B) I’m not tr Porkens/TPFKAP but as scum, she usually tries to derail in some way, so no blatantly obvious scumtells from her slot yet. You’d be making a mistake, if you think I’m locked in on your wagon. Convince me I’m wrong here. What am I not seeing?
