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[Arkham Asylum]

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laughing my ass off at how badly town wants to lose rn

~ Poison Ivy

that's how I feel when people fight the mass claim

I've been doing just fine without it???????

~ Poison Ivy

disagree. you still think jjh is town

wow

~ Poison Ivy

[Arkham Asylum]

okay let me know when you two kiss and make up so we can start doing something productive ty

~ Poison Ivy

[Flavor Leaf]

I wouldn't be fighting a massclaim as scum because then I get to build a complete plan for how to get to endgame comfortably to maximize the potential abuse of the flipless system considering people seem to not be able to handle it

I'd bet town has methods of getting flip info and I'd bet anything they'd be dead before long if they were forced to claim

plus I never see towns play better when all the mechanical bs is on the table because... surprise surprise, people who are competent mechanical players can fake that type of play as scum very easily

it's a fucking waste and has very good odds of making things even worse for town, especially in a game where people are just going to latch on to it

~ Poison Ivy

disagree. Mass claim hurts scum here. it focuses all on day play, which is what we should be doing and not having to rely on PR's to solve games for us

[Arkham Asylum]

disagree. Mass claim hurts scum here. it focuses all on day play, which is what we should be doing and not having to rely on PR's to solve games for us

are you reading my posts

~ Poison Ivy

[jjh927]

You haven't played with me without having knowledge of my alignment yet, boon

ive modded you before, and ive played with you a lot when I thought you were just some bk randy dandy

I think I only played in one game you modded and I don't think it was a particularly shining example of my towngame

Intrigued to know when else you've played with me but I'm guessing it was on alts

[Flavor Leaf]

half of em, but i'm not gonna agree with that mind set because that's just not the kind of player I am. This is the point where I'd have everything out, not have to rely on any PR.

Sure, you could be pushing that you are some PR so you don't want to claim, but you're already a likely NK target if town, so might as well claim to see what we get out of it, and focus on day play effectively making this a mountainous game which is easily solvable.

[Arkham Asylum]

disagree. Mass claim hurts scum here. it focuses all on day play, which is what we should be doing and not having to rely on PR's to solve games for us

are you reading my posts

~ Poison Ivy

btw I'm not accepting yes as an answer to this

because if your answer to that post is "massclaim makes the focus on day play"

then you're either being extremely obtuse or you're straight up not reading my posts

~ Poison Ivy

[Flavor Leaf]

You haven't played with me without having knowledge of my alignment yet, boon

ive modded you before, and ive played with you a lot when I thought you were just some bk randy dandy

I think I only played in one game you modded and I don't think it was a particularly shining example of my towngame

Intrigued to know when else you've played with me but I'm guessing it was on alts

idont remember either, but i've been around over 5 years, and recognize your name and whatnot so

[Arkham Asylum]

Spoiler:

Because it’s not unlikely that I’m confbiasing and my reasoning doesn’t hold up, which would make it not deserving of a vote

Lol so that observation gave you *no* clue about their alignment, yet you mentioned it - why?

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Pennywise

The Joker

It didn’t give me no clue

There’s a chance it does give me a clue, but the chance isn’t deserving of a vote

Makes it difficult for me to work without a read on them though and that's kinda annoying

We're locktown, let's proceed from there

-The Joker

Sure why not

I think whoever said second that the big hydras had a scum is probably a wolf here

Okay is there anybody who townreads ZZZX?

not I

That makes me slightly more confident DEB's role claim was fake, and that he's scum.

-TJ

can roll with this

not a lot of actual scumhunting going on rn, and I know I'm not helping

think scum are comfortable in this gamestate

VOTE: AA

science

wouldn't it be funny if the scumteam was just chickadee + chemist1422?

I happened to look at the VC and those two names were the ones that stuck out as the ones I didn't really feel like I had any direct reasons to townread???

~ Poison Ivy

really makes you think, doesn’t it

Chemist why is AA scum

That's what I'm trying to find out, hence the science wagon

I do think rn they're fluffing when fluffing shouldn't be happening so I'm willing to pressure them over it

864 and 871 make no sense with the other posts. His progression in reading our slot here makes no logical sense. His reponses to our posts clearly indicate he views our slot as genuinely solving, yet he claims we need to be “pressure voted” for “fluffing”. Town just does town things, scum want to beat it over your head that they’re allegedly doing town things.

~Harley

[Arkham Asylum]

focus on day play effectively making this a mountainous game which is easily solvable.

~ Poison Ivy

[Arkham Asylum]

you just figured out what I've been doing since the start of the game FL

and I don't need a massclaim to do that

~ Poison Ivy

[Arkham Asylum]

and lo and behold

I've pushed a solve earlier today, like 50 pages ago by now since it got buried in all this nonsensical crap

why do you need a MASSCLAIM to just judge people by how they're playing

~ Poison Ivy

[Arkham Asylum]

literally THE ONLY reason to massclaim on day two after a very probably scum lynch

is to keep the option of solving the game by mechanics open

there is literally no day play advantage to massclaiming because mechanics are a ~D I S T R A C T I O N~ to scumhunt with

~ Poison Ivy

[Arkham Asylum]

@Mastina - if you're town here, you town read me when i was scum, and now you're scum reading me when I'm town. please see it

She read you correctly in RS, that’s what I can’t figure out.

~HQ

[Dannflor]

is to keep the option of solving the game by mechanics open

it will probably remain open considering I likely die tonight if DEB was scum

[Arkham Asylum]

laughing my ass off at how badly town wants to lose rn

~ Poison Ivy

that's how I feel when people fight the mass claim

I've been doing just fine without it???????

~ Poison Ivy

disagree. you still think jjh is town

He could be pushing you and be bad town. The tell is does he actually believe what he’s saying? Chemist doesn’t look like his reads are beyond surfacey, when they don’t entirely contradict themselves from post to post.

~H

[jjh927]

VOTE: Chemist

Yeah everything AA is saying feels right

Boon feels more obtuse and less obnoxious here which is decidedly different to the other 1v1s I have had with Boon

PEdit: Oi

[Flavor Leaf]

nah chemist is town i feel it in my jellies

[mastina]

I’m genuinely surprised that Mastina can’t see how 180 degrees different he is here than in RS.

Oh you think that my vote's a scumread.

I should clarify.

If Flavor Leaf is going to insist that DEB, who was very very obviously scum bullshitting.
Was realclaiming.
And also.
Vote for the player who is the closest thing we've got to conftown and call them gambiting scum?

I see no reason not to vote his ass.

I literally don't care what his alignment is; it's anti-town incarnate.

Now granted, he's removed half of that; he unvoted you.
But my vote remains as a statement more than anything else.

If I actually wanted to lynch him, I'd cast more than a naked vote. Not a chance in hell he actually gets lynched from it; doesn't mean I don't want to vote him.

[Flavor Leaf]

i lived on that guy's couch.

im claiming soul read. i doubt he even knew what an enabler was prior, and he played it exactly like i thought he would have.

him and flippynips both are more likely to claim as scum and fight against claiming as town.

[Flavor Leaf]

im the closest thing we got to conf town

[mastina]

Mastina goes tomorrow unless she towns the hell up.

Honestly if you can't tell that this isn't how I approach a game as scum then you just really don't know how to read me at all.

"mastina is busy regardless of her alignment and thus doesn't do much" only works for so much; past a certain point there's shit to evaluate beyond that for determining my alignment. And there is nothing about my mindset this game which is remotely my scumgame.

[Flavor Leaf]

Honestly if you can't tell that this isn't how I approach a game as scum then you just really don't know how to read me at all.

same to anyone scum reading me here ever

[Flavor Leaf]

mastina can be town.

[Flavor Leaf]

i think one of chick or chemist is probably scum.