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christ I need to catch up again

Nancy let's vote Pops?

In post 1304, Bitmap wrote:

In post 1302, Chaos Wind wrote:

In post 1300, Bitmap wrote:

In post 1297, Chaos Wind wrote:

In post 1296, Bitmap wrote:

In post 1294, Chaos Wind wrote: That wasn’t an answer to your question, that was calling your question scummy

-Wind

How is it scummy? Scum has a tendency to cover for scummy town in order to sway votes towards their side.

You’re projecting your scum read on me onto pops’s read to push them

-Wind

This makes no sense. pops even admitted to you being scummy as well.

Wait where

-Wind

Let me rephrase that. He's saying you being derpy and scummy is a town-tell for you.

That's a mischaracterization of what I've said.
I think Chaos Wind has been both scummy and towny, and the scummy things are worse. They wouldn't be a bad day one lynch.

In post 1321, Lady Eventide wrote:

In post 1306, popsofctown wrote:

In post 1298, Lady Eventide wrote: Right now I'm thinking there's at least one scum in Dann/RCE, and I very much want to hear everyone's reads on this.

I really don't like "There must be in scum in subset X" minigames. I feel like it just gives you more chances to mess up, once when you setup the group, then again if you miss as you select within the group.

I'd have to be sold on Dannflor or RCE being independently scummy for the things they've done.

Both of them are. RCE's doing this weird shit with Bitmap and Senshi, and Dann reads very much as instigating. The fact that I've put these two reads together into a larger picture ought not to be causing you distress IMO; though I do understand the broader principle against lynch chaining, I don't think it applies here, since I'm not saying Dann's alignment implies much about RCE's or vice versa.

Except you're changing order of events and actions to fit your narrative which is scummy af.

The characterization of me as an "instigator" is... I don't know what but not something I feel very enthusiastic about engaging in.

I'm not really interested in nor do I have the time to do a thorough analysis of Bitmap, Lady E. I don't have a read I'm confident in on that slot right now. Gun to head probably town.

You're an instigator, a deepwolf, a vagabond, a thug, and a ruffian.

In post 1303, Bitmap wrote:I'm okay if we lynch RCE today as well.

I think if the Krazy/RC argument had happened closer to deadline and he shaded us then, it would still be sketch but I could maybe still see some minuscule ray of logic but to make that kind of comment when the game’s pretty much just started, reeks to me of either scum pushing a mislynch or at the very least, setting up one in the future. I only hesitate because RCE wrongly sr me for posting a role pm from another game in LNT, that wasn’t even mine so basically, RCE is the king of nutso reads.

RCE is definitely operating on moon logic but I don't think he's scum.

In post 1313, Sailor Senshi wrote:

In post 1271, Lady Eventide wrote:

In post 1266, gameplay506 wrote:

In post 1264, Lady Eventide wrote:Hmmmm.

Reread is saying that Bitmap is likely town to me. Which says...

VOTE: RCEnigma

I feel that your theory, if actually believed, ought to have led to a vote on Dannfor, not on Senshi. Why do you believe Senshi/Tana scum/scum before considering Dannfor at all?

Mmm can you explain

The theory they put forwards is that the tana/senshi fight was staged/inflamed to distract from the bitmap wagon. If so, then either A: Senshi and/or Tana have excellent acting skills in order to stage that, or B: Dannfor was an instigator from the sidelines. Having reread that section, B seems far more plausible to me.

How did Dann instigate anything?

They're the original poster to describe the interaction as "hostile", a read I don't agree with at the time they posted it and that T&E almost immediately used as ammo against you. They also seemed very ambivalent about the whole interaction.

I also generally assume any fight of this type is going to be encouraged by if not outright caused by scum, because it impedes solving. Given that not Tana and not you, Dannfor is the most likely culprit as the most active other contributor to the discussion.

Pedit: Chaos Wind... gutfeel town, but I may have been pocketed. My read here is not at all settled and I want to hear more.

Pops feels scummy but I don't have strong evidence either way. Would not lynch rn.

egh mowing again, back in like 2 hrs probably

Dann.flor()

In post 1306, popsofctown wrote:

In post 1298, Lady Eventide wrote: Right now I'm thinking there's at least one scum in Dann/RCE, and I very much want to hear everyone's reads on this.

I really don't like "There must be in scum in subset X" minigames. I feel like it just gives you more chances to mess up, once when you setup the group, then again if you miss as you select within the group.

I'd have to be sold on Dannflor or RCE being independently scummy for the things they've done.

RCE’s shade on us re: Bitmap wagon: crazy or scummy?

Nancy I thought you scumread Pops

In post 1311, Tana and Ephraim wrote:Wind is Chemist, Eragon is Chaos.

Has Eragon even posted?

I have wrongly sr Chemist every game except the one he pretty much obvtowned in, where I was scum.

In post 1335, Tana and Ephraim wrote:Dann.flor()

Don’t forget the semicolon

-Wind

this isn't c

In post 1332, Sailor Senshi wrote:

In post 1303, Bitmap wrote:I'm okay if we lynch RCE today as well.

I think if the Krazy/RC argument had happened closer to deadline and he shaded us then, it would still be sketch but I could maybe still see some minuscule ray of logic but to make that kind of comment when the game’s pretty much just started, reeks to me of either scum pushing a mislynch or at the very least, setting up one in the future. I only hesitate because RCE wrongly sr me for posting a role pm from another game in LNT, that wasn’t even mine so basically, RCE is the king of nutso reads.

To be fair, they have value. Or will when they catch scum. I don't think wagonshifting is as out there as the role pm was. I also don't think you have anything to worry about if bit flips green, it's probably my head if he does and you look better in light of it.

I half understand why Krazy took issue with the read but I haven't pushed your slot outside of the original vote to get at least one of the heads to engage.

I'm digging in because there shouldn't be resistance from outside slots like this if my read was just a throwaway trash read. Even if I'm right for the wrong reasons.

In post 1338, Sailor Senshi wrote:

In post 1311, Tana and Ephraim wrote:Wind is Chemist, Eragon is Chaos.

Has Eragon even posted?

I have wrongly sr Chemist every game except the one he pretty much obvtowned in, where I was scum.

Like once yes

He says that he’ll be around either today or tomorrow



Also what was the game I obvtowned in because I’m pretty sure that didn’t happen

-Wind

Hey who made the post where they were like setting up a dichotomy between two players' vote shifting patterns, one of which was Dannflor? Early in the game

In post 1337, Tana and Ephraim wrote:Nancy I thought you scumread Pops

I do. That doesn’t mean I can’t ask him questions.

In post 1343, Tana and Ephraim wrote:Hey who made the post where they were like setting up a dichotomy between two players' vote shifting patterns, one of which was Dannflor? Early in the game

I think that was Bitmap

I'll be honest Dannfor is a way I have not seen my name spelled before this game

OK who here is ready for a spicy vote on scum?

I'm ready

In post 1336, Sailor Senshi wrote:

In post 1306, popsofctown wrote:

In post 1298, Lady Eventide wrote: Right now I'm thinking there's at least one scum in Dann/RCE, and I very much want to hear everyone's reads on this.

I really don't like "There must be in scum in subset X" minigames. I feel like it just gives you more chances to mess up, once when you setup the group, then again if you miss as you select within the group.

I'd have to be sold on Dannflor or RCE being independently scummy for the things they've done.

RCE’s shade on us re: Bitmap wagon: crazy or scummy?

I don't think those are mutually exclusive. I think it's scummy on balance but I don't assign it a high magnitude. I feel cognizant of being TR by RCE right now when I'm rather unpopular right now though, so there's that.