incidentally I kind of hate being this obviously town because I find it harder to read attempts to buddy me vs genuine TRs on me vs reading people trying to push mislynches on me vs genuine doubts around my slot
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:55 am
by GuiltyLion
who is flygon, is that TrueSoulEnergy?
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:56 am
by GuiltyLion
ah yeah that's his Avi lol
Joey how'd you switch from 90% voting Awoo to voting TSE?
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:00 am
by GuiltyLion
also I really don't think 1141 is a townslip at all
the way TSE has been building his arguments is jank, he just assumes these questionable premises like Suji/Joey is TvS or GL/Awoo is TvS then goes from there, I don't think he's bothered to read the game just ISO'd and looked at VCs
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:07 am
by Joey_
Lets do some stretch logic
6. Sujimichi
3. NorwegianboyEE
4. GuiltyLion
9. pisskop
1. Awoo
5. TES
7. Menalque
Premises;
Suji is town
Menalque is town
pk/GL are unlikely both mafia
nEE/GL are unlikely both mafia? (from d1 nom, could be all 3 scum for memes tho)
Scenario 1; If we assume pool is all town, then nEE + pk is the only "possibility" --> IMO very unlikely but maybe, both are too passive for a scum team, they don't really influence the game that much. So if either is scum, most likely the other isnt which points to
Scenario 2; If we assume pool is 1 mefia outside 1 mefia inside --> Awoo/TES vs nEE/pk/GL. If either nEE or GL were mefia, it would imply a 2/3 mefia nomination d1 which doesn't seems all that efficient. Tho, Titus did "push" on correspond and the chance she got she ended up on nEE.
This would probably point to the rationale where pk can only be the solo mafia outside the pool otherwise it would be the 2/3 d1 nom scenario (unlikely), so pk would be mefia. From my sheet, the pk/TES slot associatives are pretty bad (absence of content irrc)
Scenario 3: Both mefia inside the pool, not a problem
....
So, if my premises are correct, pk is mafia with either Awoo or TES
In post 1240, Joey_ wrote:Wait lmao, somehow I forgot TTS is not suji's slot, I am pretty dumb.
you can disregard my 1233 for now. Creature's slot was pretty terrible D1, better D2. In my excel sheet (lel), creature is in both my last most possible scumteams, w/ Creatu/PK & Creat/GL.
The Creat/GL one is lesser tho and is why I didn't post it in my initial pool.
1/3 of my poe scum (creat/GL/pk) along + my paranoia deepwolf (awoo), I am not sure how to feel.
Based on ruby? I can see that but you’re wrong this time
VOTE: Jigglypuff
Creature is also very probably town
The post where I am opening up about my reads
In post 427, Joey_ wrote:I am thinking menalque/creat/awoo are town. Rest is up in the air and i dislike nEE’s tone the most (which is regardless of his shit hammer)
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:13 am
by Menalque
someone has fucked with this gamestate at some point and once I figure out who it was then we're lynching them
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:14 am
by Joey_
In post 1325, Menalque wrote:incidentally I kind of hate being this obviously town because I find it harder to read attempts to buddy me vs genuine TRs on me vs reading people trying to push mislynches on me vs genuine doubts around my slot
lol you thinking I am buddying you?
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:15 am
by Joey_
I appealed to you even tho you were voting me and I believed I was getting fliped, that's not buddying, that's townreading
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:16 am
by Menalque
I mean regardless of alignment you have a strong motivation to play to me
as scum it's to buddy me as town it's to try and make me see that you're town so that I don't push you by accident
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:17 am
by Joey_
In post 1335, Menalque wrote:I mean regardless of alignment you have a strong motivation to play to me
as scum it's to buddy me as town it's to try and make me see that you're town so that I don't push you by accident
You should actually see it the other way; one of the reason why you are unpushable is because you are very openly townread by town, they know I won't let it pass & I am pretty vocal
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:18 am
by Menalque
In post 1332, Menalque wrote:someone has fucked with this gamestate at some point and once I figure out who it was then we're lynching them
tbh I think this is the key to the game and it's something I think I'm fairly good at, but I'm gonna need to read through again, maybe from scratch but at least from after Titus!flip to see who's behind it
like I don't think I'm feeling this confused about where the scum is after Titus flipping unless scum has been intentionally putting effort in to fuck things up
which, incidentally, is quite a good reason to be town leaning pk now I think about it
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:18 am
by Joey_
I will get pushed first because I townread you, not the other way around, not in the same degree anyway
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:19 am
by Menalque
okay joey, humour me, who is responsible for fucking up the gamestate here?
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:26 am
by Joey_
In post 1339, Menalque wrote:okay joey, humour me, who is responsible for fucking up the gamestate here?
The only slots personality wise, i feel could "fuck up a gamestate" is you, pk, awoo. In those three I would pick awoo
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:28 am
by Menalque
okay so talk me through what you're understanding by fuck up a gamestate and why you think it's only us 3 who could do it
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:28 am
by Menalque
cause I kinda think you could and might have been but like I said it'd take reading through to actually figure it out and I'm prob not doing that tonight
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:30 am
by Joey_
Id say, voluntarily manipulating associatives and planned scum theater. Titus is also someone I consider does that btw, i didnt inclued her since she ded.
Id say you need experience & charisma (good tone) to be deceiving on theather, which points to yall 3 (including me but i am town dw)
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:47 am
by Menalque
I think that's more how it's done but more or less
I think fucked up gamestate for me means hard to actually have any town reads/unsure who's manipulating me and who's being genuine in interacting with me
and like this game went from me having solid-ish reads to me really having no idea who's town/scum other than I think rn that pk is more likely town than scum
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:50 am
by Joey_
I assure you that I am town & my read on suji is rock solid
In post 1309, Awoo wrote:Either I'm right about suji and I'm getting "nightkilled" for that (more likely)
Why are you so sure about Suji?
TBH. Its Guilty 1 of Lion/Awoo and 1 of Suji/Joey
If I had to guess.
It’s Lion and Suji.
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:38 pm
by TrueSoulEnergy
In post 1345, Joey_ wrote:I assure you that I am town & my read on suji is rock solid
Not sure why you town read them at all.
They were never slipped Town by triton.
But Nor and PK was.
So like. Can you not lose this for Town because your too in love with Suji to call then Town? TY.
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:38 pm
by TrueSoulEnergy
Scum*
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:39 pm
by TrueSoulEnergy
Yeah re-reading.
Unless Awoo is a risk taker.
Lion and Suji are the mafia here.