In post 662, Saladman27 wrote:I’ll hammer, I guess. I mean who needs a claim when you can have a flip? VOTE: Look
this was the only point that Salad voted Looker, the rest of the day prior his votes were either myself, Wake, or Saudade but he never really said much about why and totally avoided having an opinion about the Looker wagon
why did you come in just to unvote me and make that comment?
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:15 pm
by Eve
wow i already have more posts this game than saladman
step it up Caesar
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:51 pm
by Elbirn
In post 1323, Eve wrote:nokilling the first 3 nights is a really dumb strat
why is there even discussion based around the fact scum might've done that volunteerily? they didn't
I'm not saying it's the best play but considering that we have two claimed protective power roles that are both N3 only and there are no counter claims, I am forced to conclude that there were no blocked kills N1-3
Meaning one of the following
1. Scum has an ability they consider more important than their night kill and they are not multi-tasking
2. Scum thought they should no kill for some sort of "strategic" reason that is beyond me. Confusion? Putting us on an even number of players is good for scum? Doesn't want to shrink the lynch pool?
I can't deny the possibility of option 1, I guess, but if scum is no killing because BIG BRAIN, who would have actually thought to do that?
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:12 pm
by Eve
Well I think it's far more likely for example that there's 4 scum that can't nightkill but have decent roles
Or just 3 scum that can't nightkill but have insane roles and possibly a one-shot vigilante they haven't used yet
Mafia going for some galaxy brain play where they nokill for confusion is just bad since that confusion doesn't help them or make specifically them less likely to be lynched so it's not for that reason I've concluded
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:41 pm
by Elbirn
The setup is confirmed to be 2 scum, and we lynched one of them on day 1. There is nothing stated about scum not having a nighrkill, which seems to be implicitly against normal game guidelines (?)
I'd be open to an Eve, Salad, or Elbirn lynch today.
I feel like Plank, Elements, and Profii are in my blind spot: I can't tell their alignment.
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:13 pm
by Saladman27
VOTE: Eve I’m thinking she’s hopping on wagons as they gain traction, hoping for a mislynch. I mean that response to plank’s argument about mean just screams to me “i have a valid reason to mislynch, thanks plank!”
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:22 pm
by Wake1
In post 1335, Saladman27 wrote:VOTE: Eve I’m thinking she’s hopping on wagons as they gain traction, hoping for a mislynch. I mean that response to plank’s argument about mean just screams to me “i have a valid reason to mislynch, thanks plank!”
On a side note, Eve's contributed more than you have this game.
She's posted more in 1 day than you have in 4, and that makes me think you're refraining from contributing.
I want to know why you've been hanging out in the background for so long.
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:37 pm
by Saladman27
It’s the end of the school year, I’m modding a game and usually in a game, it’s around this time I actually start to contribute.
Before I start rereading my immediate suspicions are Eve, Elb and Elements. Note since this is before rereading, it’s prob shit.
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:51 pm
by Saladman27
Alimdia, Town - He’s put up great points about looker and me
In post 516, alimdia wrote:At this point Looker's wall of posts, the contents in there towards me are just 90% saying 'nothing' and straight up misdirection
In post 487, alimdia wrote:No you had 0 mention of wake, and then suddenly you assume wake is town. 0 analysis in between. You didn't express any reads in between.
Are you expecting reads to be given out pre-Day 1? Where do you think they come from? They're derived in-game from interactions, so I don't see why you'd expect them to be telegraphed in RVS
Except your post 334, 393, 403 are not pre-Day 1 anymore. Its after a crapload of stuff has happened
In post 405, profii wrote:Lack of protest of the wake wagon falling down is noted. Any thoughts from anyone?
I feel it was opportunistic scum, honestly. When people don't have to give reasoning, anybody can jump on a wagon.
Your 334 said that you haven't read wake yet.
Your 393 and 403 also don't mention wake.
Your next post, which is the post I am quoting, suddenly straight up slips that wake is town. Hmm? Where did that sudden town read come from? I think it's definitely a slip
If we assume that's an accident.... who is the opportunistic scum on the wagon? Why is your vote on Elements, who needed to be prodded by the mod and thus actually hasn't posted in a while.
In post 504, Looker wrote:
I really don't get your case. You say I'm scum for finding Wake's wagon suspicious, but you weren't on it either. I legit thought this was you being upset over the trash comment.
You're scum for straight up saying wake is town with 0 prior mentions of wake and also still not analysing the wagon?
Also I already disproven by my posts earlier: "being upset over the trash comment"
Scum doesn't act scummy on purpose. In fact they try their best to not look scummy.
What I look for are what they don't do, contradictions and posts that imply prior knowledge.
You:
1) didnt investigate wake wagon still. Its been a couple days. Every time we talk about it, you talk about me, answer other stuff, instead of analyzing the wake wagon.
2) You imply prior knowledge of wake being town when you had 0 mentions about wake before. Yes I expect reads to be given out before you make a statement that implies you 'know' they are town.
I'm probably done responding to Looker's walls unless theres anything new there. So far its more of the same.
That is, to me, a pro town post. I also thought Alim’s pfp was fozzie bear.
Elbirn, Null - I don’t really scumread him but I don’t like how people say he’s conf!town just because a rep out. One thing to note, Elbirn seems to have forgotten about me in the first half after voting looker.
Elements, Null - Only thing interesting was that Elements l-1ed vork and hammered saud.
Eve, Scumlean - Most of her votes look like scum hopping on wagons for a mislynch. Especially when she changed her mind so quickly from elements to me.
Profii, Null -
Plank, Null -
Wake - I honestly think his jk claim is real because he was surprised at what Loyal meant.
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:30 am
by alimdia
Why is Profii and Plank null? Profii was a major character in Day 1 and looker actually interacted with plank
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:37 am
by Saladman27
I should’ve just left them out, their ISOs are long and it’s currently night.
why did you come in just to unvote me and make that comment?
This was an unvote on wake after his outburst when he thought he was lynched. Nothing to do with you.
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 2:03 am
by UltimatePlank
In post 1322, Elbirn wrote:Yeah that's cool and all but is Saladman27 "smart" enough to no kill the first 3 nights just to fuck with us?
This killed me
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 2:06 am
by UltimatePlank
Honestly this game is driving me nuts
I thought it was gonna be over and if we lynch Salad i really hope he's scum because I'm struggling to really scumread anyone else at this point of the game
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 2:10 am
by UltimatePlank
And yes Ali I see Eve's response. I have the day off work tomorrow and i hope to get a better handle on this game by then.
I'm actually kinda townreading Eve rn, will explain tomorrow
I'm sorry salesman but I'm going to try to be as transparent about my reads and who I want to vote at all times - if that means I'll look suspicious because i change my mind a lot I don't care
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:09 am
by Eve
In post 1335, Saladman27 wrote:VOTE: Eve I’m thinking she’s hopping on wagons as they gain traction, hoping for a mislynch. I mean that response to plank’s argument about mean just screams to me “i have a valid reason to mislynch, thanks plank!”
No I just agreed with the logic on you - I could've kept voting for wake or elbirn you know or kept my vote on Elements - you're just looking for a reason to vote me because you know I'm a potential lynch today
