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Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:41 pm
by OkaPoka
hecboi where is shiki and where are her reads

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:43 pm
by Alduskkel
In post 1324, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1320, Alduskkel wrote:honestly if icon flipped scum that'd be +equity for datisi being scum, it's just I'm not confident enough in that to lynch datisi first
would the reverse be true for you? me flipping town means datisi is prob town?

or dats flipping town means i'm prob town?
datisi flipping town makes you more likely to be town, since that removes your most likely scumpartner

you flipping town doesn't give as much info on datisi since datisi has a larger number of plausible scum pairings
OkaPoka wrote:if ur town here you should understand that im giving you the once in a lifetime opportunity to take control of me, under reasonable circumstances
i'm aware that i'm not playing that great but i don't really have a good handle on this game as far as reads sooo idk what to tell you

i mean i've told you what i would do, i'm not going to blurt out "lynch drew" or whatever just because that'd be more convenient or because it's what you'd prefer to do anyway

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:48 pm
by Iconeum
In post 1326, Alduskkel wrote:you flipping town doesn't give as much info on datisi since datisi has a larger number of plausible scum pairings
then why would you shoot me if datisi provides more information for you?

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:48 pm
by Alduskkel
In post 1327, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1326, Alduskkel wrote:you flipping town doesn't give as much info on datisi since datisi has a larger number of plausible scum pairings
then why would you shoot me if datisi provides more information for you?
because you're scummier

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:49 pm
by Iconeum
why am i still so scummy to you at this point?

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:50 pm
by Alduskkel
bruh

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:55 pm
by Alduskkel
a comprehensive answer to that question would be pretty lengthy and i'm tired rn

also it'd probably be repeating stuff i've said before, just all in one post instead of scattered throughout my iso

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:56 pm
by OkaPoka
im in no rush to end this day tbh i have exams coming up soon so my activity is going to dip a bit

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:57 pm
by Iconeum
so all D1 stuff and no revaluation upon flip, wagon analysis and D2 play?

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:58 pm
by OkaPoka
although rushing the day actually might be better for me so i can focus on studying lol

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 9:00 pm
by OkaPoka
who knows what ill do im unhinged

chaos is a laddah

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 9:01 pm
by Alduskkel
i don't know how much info QQ's flip really provides

you're right that I should check back based on the knowledge that kanna is town but i haven't because miiiiiidteeeeeermssssss have kept me busy

D2 play is included in stuff scattered throughout my iso

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 9:03 pm
by Alduskkel
i'm pretty sure kanna flipping town does not make you look more town tho ico

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 11:12 pm
by DoctorPepper
Consider this a prod Dodge, work has been killing me recently. Will catch up when I have time on the weekend

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 1:15 am
by Iconeum
In post 1337, Alduskkel wrote:i'm pretty sure kanna flipping town does not make you look more town tho ico
that lynch on QQ didn't happen without scum's assistance

there is no way i'm allowing a lynch off-wagon

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 1:26 am
by Iconeum
vla weekend

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 5:35 am
by Euphony
In post 1325, OkaPoka wrote:hecboi where is shiki and where are her reads
Very Soon.TM

Also, stop ignoring my ignoring my questions, Ico.

_//^*^ Hectic

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 5:38 am
by Euphony
In post 1306, Drew-Sta wrote:For me, Euph's initial interest in getting out of RVS by bringing in the meta stick and casting shade on me got my attn. It seemed like they dug out dirt to create a case. The fact they didn't apply this same logic to everyone else, despite their proclamation that meta was important, seemed unusual.
How are you still caught up about this when we've explained many times that you had the only alignment-indicative entrance, which is why we only brought your meta up? No one else was town or scum-indicative in a significant way with their entrance, so there wasn't any point highlighting them.

7&("" Hectic

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 5:40 am
by Euphony
More thoughts later.

,,£== Hectic

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 8:13 am
by Euphony
    In post 1177, Euphony wrote:Note, this isn't a shiki-approved readslist; one of those will come later.
    In post 1325, OkaPoka wrote:hecboi where is shiki and where are her reads
    my current readslist looks something like:

    datisi
    iconeum
    okapoka
    doctorpepper
    drew-sta
    alduskkel

    i am pretty sure datisi and iconeum are town. i think scum!datisi would have taken a different approach to my early game and i don't think this:
    In post 433, Datisi wrote:Why is the 364 link broken, Hectic? It doesn't lead to the 364 in this thread.
    In post 434, Datisi wrote:oh wait, you included a space in the post tag and that broke it. lmao i almost got excited.
    comes from scum. iconeum's progression on us seems very difficult to simulate as scum and i did not find anything similar in either of its scum games.
    In post 1339, Iconeum wrote:that lynch on QQ didn't happen without scum's assistance

    there is no way i'm allowing a lynch off-wagon
    this makes sense to me. it feels likely it was a scum motivated wagon. datisi blames herself for the lynch but i am just as much at fault. i okayed a vote on someone i thought was quite possibly a named towny. i am pretty sure datisi is town and hectic is pretty sure okapoka is town based on recent experiences with him, which leaves drew-sta and alduskkel. i think drew-sta's hammer was pretty scummy. it did not allow time for quantumquasar to claim and it felt like drew-sta was trying to make it less scummy by preemptively pointing out reasons it was inconsistent with what he had previously stated:
    In post 1103, Drew-Sta wrote:But I’ve said I will only vote Kanna or Dr today. If I hammer, it will again weaken my position as town.
    which doesn't make a lot of sense to me since the other wagon was on him at the end of the day and the towniness of his statement was erased by the hammer itself. alduskkel's reads are so far from my own and seem to be angling for any non-drew lynch that becomes viable.
    In post 1122, Alduskkel wrote:low key feeling like datisi is scum
    this read felt disingenous given the reasoning provided. datisi had up until that point only asked the obvious questions coming into the day and followed up on okapoka's vca.
    In post 1265, Alduskkel wrote:Euphony kinda pings me too, especially:
    In post 1265, Alduskkel wrote:...seems inconsistent or fake.
    i believe hectic was expressing frustration on my behalf. i find it hard to imagine that no one aside from myself thought that quantumquasar's roleplaying was more likely than not to come from an officer.
    In post 1265, Alduskkel wrote:I still find you(iconeum) and DP suspect.
    doctorpepper is an interesting inclusion here because it hasn't felt like alduskkel has attempted to pressure or sort the slot despite taking the opposite trajectory of other players. you were originally townreading him and moved to scumreading him, though never placed a vote despite the wagon.
    In post 1265, Alduskkel wrote:
    In post 1207, Iconeum wrote:drew's acceptance of it's lynch is odd
    Well, didn't DP get townread for it?
    doctorpepper seemingly waited for the pressure to move off of him before questioning why it did so and drawing it back onto himself ad infinitum, which is consistent with his continued suspicion of anyone who is townreading him now who wasn't always.

    i find it really hard to believe that town!alduskkel thinks both iconeum and datisi are likely scum here while scumreading doctorpepper and us as well while also questioning his townread of drew-sta with only okapoka as a strong townread.

    having discussed, hectic and i will:

    VOTE: alduskkel

    drew-sta seems like the most likely partner to me followed by doctorpepper.

    Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 8:56 am
    by OkaPoka
    meh sure

    VOTE: aldusskel

    if this flips scum: one person i might be wrong on is drew!town

    if this flips town: its almost guaranteed to be drp/euph

    Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 10:50 am
    by Alduskkel
    didn’t expect to get hammered so soon

    I’m flipping town. Promise me you guys won’t rush lylo... and maybe consider my reads again once you know I’m town. A re-evaluation might be in order.

    Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 10:53 am
    by Alduskkel
    Interesting to hammer me without a claim. Obviously rank claiming is out of the question but if the last officer is town then our PRs still matter. Luckily I’m a vanilla ensign.

    Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 10:55 am
    by Datisi
    you don't troll post-hammer, right?

    Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 10:55 am
    by Alduskkel
    I still think oka is most likely to be town but I can’t help but throw a little shade

    pedit: no I don’t