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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:17 am
by JamSV
In post 1323, TheThirteenthJT wrote: In post 1321, 72offsuit wrote: In post 1313, TheThirteenthJT wrote:Alright I am neither confirming or denying. In a scenerrio where I fakeclaimed doctor would it change your views? Obviously mafia knows the truth and town can only believe what I say. Does that make a difference based on reactions to my claim. How would you see looker who was the only one to have openly opposed my claim.
Just make a choice.
I think this game resolves the same way.
Looker's 0 interest makes me further think its looker +bm.
I think if Jams is scum than he has won already, though i think thats unlikely.
If you kick BM, i kick looker tomorrow.
If you kick looker and he flips scum, pretty sure jam kicks BM tomorrow.
If you kick me its game over.
If you kick jam, who knows.
If I get agreements from BM and Jams I will move this day phase to it's end.
Go for it.
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:20 am
by TheThirteenthJT
If we flip lickety and raya we have a potential order of the game lol.
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:20 am
by TheThirteenthJT
Alright I want to stick to my gut here. I think from everyone 72 is scum. Just everything adds up for me here. As for partner Jamsv or looker is where I struggle.
At this point I'm clearing BM. If in wrong well I apologize tot he town. Anyways. I want either Jamsv or Looker to vote 72. I don't want the other to hammer just yet if you are town.
Also I guess I do t really need BMa approval. Of course h would like this regardless of alignment.
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:40 am
by JamSV
Can you try to work out if its me or Looker? All I can tell you as a fact, is Looker is scum. After that, odds are, BM is scum.
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:57 am
by TheThirteenthJT
I don't know why it can't be Looker and 72. You seems to have ruled that out.
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:58 am
by TheThirteenthJT
And I'll work it out as best as I can. I'm dead anyways for next day if we hit scum.
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:16 pm
by JamSV
You aren't dead. If we hammer Looker, and then you die N3. Me and 72 hammer BM D4 to win.
I can work out its BM quite easily. Looker is scum. That's already 10000% clear. Then BM is just scum by extension primarily. As soon as BM ruled out 72 + Looker I knew it was BM + Looker as the scum team. I've provided a plethora of reasons why Looker is scum. He's ignored them all, as has Looker also.
1226!. This is basically a confirmation that its Looker. It's so painstakingly obvious. If Battle Mage was actually town with Looker, he'd have seen this, and would scum read Looker. Yet he doesn't. Then we have
1203 and
1204 Which is just a really blatant attempt at distancing. All that has to be done is to read 1203, 1204, and 1226. Then using logic and association reasoning to hammer BM for the town win.
Once again, you can't die tonight, it would be game over. Ignoring how obvious the scum pair is, if in day 4, its Me, 72, and BM/Looker, me and 72 instant hammer the remaining scum. If its BM, Looker, and me/72, BM and Looker instant hammer the remaining scum. BM is simply agreeing with you that you'd die to try and seem more town. If D4 has:
TTJT + Looker + Jam. It's still possible for scum to win.
TTJT + 72 + BM. It's still possible for scum to win.
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:33 pm
by TheThirteenthJT
While I see your points scum won't risk me being alive as doctor. I would obviously protect the other confirmed town. Unless you don't think I'm the doctor.
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:38 pm
by JamSV
In post 1332, TheThirteenthJT wrote:While I see your points scum won't risk me being alive as doctor. I would obviously protect the other confirmed town. Unless you don't think I'm the doctor.
50% chance, the scum we hammer today is roleblocker. My gut very much says its more likely to be BM as a roleblocker than Looker. Looker is still the safer kill out of the 2.
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:43 pm
by TheThirteenthJT
Alright then similarly I would want BM or 72 to vote Looker before I do.
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:44 pm
by TheThirteenthJT
Regardless on who is voted I would want the other player who did not vote to not hammer but still post before I hammer. I'll leave the clock to you guys to crossvote.
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:51 pm
by JamSV
Sorry
@Mod
I don't know if this is allowed but if it isn't please ignore the post.
Can you flip a coin for me? I don't want it to seem like I'm just pretending to do one.
Heads = BM vote
Tails = Looker vote
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:14 pm
by 72offsuit
Who cares. Im town.
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:16 pm
by 72offsuit
I Might as well vote then.
VOTE: Looker
Gg if your scum jam, which u r probs 35 percent of the time.
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:17 pm
by 72offsuit
Lets see if it was bm+jam
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:18 pm
by 72offsuit
If there is no quick hammer, then ive further narrowed it down
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:19 pm
by 72offsuit
If no hammer then looker is 100 percent scum
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:19 pm
by 72offsuit
Then jams is clear if no hammer
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:21 pm
by 72offsuit
TTJT, how good do u think LL is at reading players?
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:24 pm
by 72offsuit
Btw TTJT, the crossvoting is nonsense.
You should just ask for everyone to vote for your decided kick.
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:24 pm
by TheThirteenthJT
If it is BM and jam it was going to be difficult anyways.
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:24 pm
by 72offsuit
My mind is still boggling that you think im scum
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:25 pm
by 72offsuit
Why?
My vote has narrowed it down
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:26 pm
by TheThirteenthJT
I wanted to add pressure. It was obvious scum would talk to their partner to figure out what to do. With Looker missing I was testing things out.
LL as in Luciano?
Technically I did when I asked Jams to vote you.
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:27 pm
by 72offsuit
1. I still dont understand what you think my scum motivation is to lead out on the outset of today
2. LL declared me as obvtown.
3. bm is a scumbag. Reread his ISO from the point of assuming he is scum and then redo so from the perspective of him being town.