Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:24 am
It's mechanically optimal for him to decide depending on what his result is...?
you'd think i'd have enough of a brain to connect that myself.
maybe i should sleep...
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:31 am
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:08 am
So:
-From 4 first picks of the game, the 1st AND 3rd decided both it was a good idea to pick one of universal backup or rolecop as a +EV for town instead of a cop or other "shenanigan" like that: I think there r rly high probabilities one of em is scum and one aint.
-Furthermore, scum DID pick 1-vig, and it is obvious that no 2 scums would go for the same pair. If we believe that there is scum in the first 3 picks and it wasnt only marqis, THERE NECESSARILY IS a scum favouring role among Doc, Umlau, and S_S.
Im A-ok sending doc to the gallows just for his role tbh.
VOTE: Doc
-From 4 first picks of the game, the 1st AND 3rd decided both it was a good idea to pick one of universal backup or rolecop as a +EV for town instead of a cop or other "shenanigan" like that: I think there r rly high probabilities one of em is scum and one aint.
-Furthermore, scum DID pick 1-vig, and it is obvious that no 2 scums would go for the same pair. If we believe that there is scum in the first 3 picks and it wasnt only marqis, THERE NECESSARILY IS a scum favouring role among Doc, Umlau, and S_S.
Im A-ok sending doc to the gallows just for his role tbh.
VOTE: Doc
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:14 am
hi word what is your opinion of gypyx and the wagon situation we had at EoD yesterday
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:15 am
tbh untill ppl began talkin about how it would be horrible for gypyx to do that as scum and that gypyx is not the kind of guy to throw a game I almost
hammered
himPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:16 am
but those kind of opinions made me recapacitate, and it is quite clear for me that gypyx was a counterwagon
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:17 am
I honsetly dnt know why ppl r hammering on that so much
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:17 am
(sry for the word; "hammering" as in "repeatedly striking the naill", not to place the last vote)
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:17 am
what do you think of thisIn post 1119, the worst wrote:gypyx isn't powerful or loud as scum but he is audiacious.
gypyx isn't powerful or loud in this game but he is audacious.
the scumclaim isn't a ~towny move~. it's not a ~scummy move~. it's transparently a reaction test, same as his test to being fakehammered before.
can town do reaction tests? yes, to try and sort players.
can scum do reaction tests? yes, to try and look towny.
so what do we make of the fact his evaluation of reactions to his reaction test is shitty?
i acknowledge the reasoning that gypyx wouldn't gamethrow as scum. he's not banned, so i agree he's not a thrower. i absolutely refute the reasoning that because he's not gamethrowing, he's towny.
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:18 am
I thought i wanted to say a thing.
Then I realized that I really didn't have anything to say to someone makes the excellent deduction, if we believe A B and C is scum, then there necessarily is a scum in A B and C; and give the inspiring hot take, if two people have the same thought process, its rly high probabilities that one of em is scum and one aint
Then I realized that I really didn't have anything to say to someone makes the excellent deduction, if we believe A B and C is scum, then there necessarily is a scum in A B and C; and give the inspiring hot take, if two people have the same thought process, its rly high probabilities that one of em is scum and one aint
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:19 am
lol i have so many things i want to argue about but i'm like... going to Not do that right now because i need to sleep and i need to talk to the dragon first
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:19 am
when said thought process is unusual for town, and 2 allegedly town players have the same when they have the first picks of the games, well, let me doubt of at least one of em
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:20 am
this just in, picking a unibackup or rolecop is unusual for town
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:23 am
2 allegedly town players with the possibility of having the 1st and 3rd picks of the game choosing to pick universal backup (and while I can somewhat agree with the rolecop serving something, I still highly believe usual cop is way better for all intents and purpose, simply cause TOWN WILL NEVER LIE ABOUT THEIR ROLE) is simply the least likely choice on my eyes
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:24 am
Im actually only on u doc cause u were the first one to pick
Id believe u more if u tried that as the 3rd or 4th pick tbh
Id believe u more if u tried that as the 3rd or 4th pick tbh
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:25 am
are you trying to argue that drd is likelier to be scum because he picked rolecop over cop *specifically*?
yeah ok i'll deal with this in the morning. nobody hammer anything, thanks.
yeah ok i'll deal with this in the morning. nobody hammer anything, thanks.
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:26 am
I believe that there is a ascum in umlaut and doc
And i believe that for now, doc is the scummier one given circumstances relatively to umlaut
And i believe that for now, doc is the scummier one given circumstances relatively to umlaut
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:26 am
At the end of the day tho Im willing to go for both
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:26 am
at the end of the day we will be going for gypyx ![:]](./images/smilies/icon_smiling.png "Cheerful Smile")
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:29 am
U can ask urself what is the priority roles scum would pick first place
If it aint 1 shot vig, u have ur answer
Pedit: ok
If it aint 1 shot vig, u have ur answer
Pedit: ok
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:32 am
i'd maybe even add the 1-shot redirector or commuter. like rolecop is actually a very shitty role for scum in this setup because (1) scum will already know where the town power is situated around based on draft and (2) claims in this game are happening much faster than in a closed gameIn post 1291, Grumpy Cat wrote:but on the other hand; scum picking Role Cop over Jailkeeper/1-shot vig/Roleblocker/Vengeful for first pick is very unusual.
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:51 am
This is a good point... from my POV, but not yours. How do you know that I'm not scum with the scumteam's first-pick role?In post 1344, word321 wrote:U can ask urself what is the priority roles scum would pick first place
If it aint 1 shot vig, u have ur answer
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:29 am
Uhh what, might be because it's 00:30 where i am but could you explain what you mean there? I don't see what your point is even applying toIn post 1334, DrDolittle wrote:I thought i wanted to say a thing.
Then I realized that I really didn't have anything to say to someone makes the excellent deduction, if we believe A B and C is scum, then there necessarily is a scum in A B and C; and give the inspiring hot take, if two people have the same thought process, its rly high probabilities that one of em is scum and one aint
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:30 am
hello
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:30 am
this is what I'm getting at. Rolecop is a cheesy scum role, but it's not actually very useful for scum in this setup.In post 1295, Grumpy Cat wrote:Is it even a cliche scum pick though? Isn't 1-shot vig/vengeful/JK/RB better for scum?