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In post 1323, VP Baltar wrote: Haschel, who is the scum pair in your mind.

Duppin/Gamma is most likely with Duppin/Noraa being less likely but still possible.

Okay no I’ll just say it, Ythan gave me a mask last night, which is super-questionable with an MD present, except for Ythan being practically confirmed town, and I also don’t have any clue why there was no kill because scum have multitasking
I honestly have 0 idea what the hell is going on right now.

In post 1324, Haschel Cedricson wrote:

In post 1322, Gamma Emerald wrote:The sensible MD action last night was to check a VT.

Can you explain this?

As long as the other PRs know to stay away (which they clearly did not) MD can possibly get a guilty from a motion detected result by doing that

Motion Detector is a new role for me; it shows both comings AND goings but doesn't say which is which? Is that correct?

Yup

In post 1328, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Motion Detector is a new role for me; it shows both comings AND goings but doesn't say which is which? Is that correct?

Yes indeed, I get either a motion detected or no motion detected

Ok, that seems to be all the claims. I visited Noraa last night, so I've got to be the miscellaneous action.

alright and haschel are you hard claiming your result? And are you absolutely sure you detect yourself?

Positive, I've gotten that mod-confirmed while I was trying to figure out the busdriving on Reck.

alright then well unless theres misdirection stuff going on, then it should make this day relatively simple

Haschel, what were your N1 results exactly?

so I think I would like to defend my slot first actually.

Day 2 Reck was the one who started the wagon on my pred slot in 625, 630, 632, 671.
Gamma voted on me a bit after putting my pred at E-2. (649, 653)
A bit after this tn put my slot at E-1. VP was the one to unvote shortly after putting it back at E-2

sure bussing is a possibility but bias aside I think it is unlikely that my slot would be with reck and I especially think the duppin/gamma/reck team is extremely unlikely.

By the way after reading through it I also think it is relatively unlikely for noraa and Gamma to be together mainly because I think it would be weird for Gamma due to their interactions day 2. Essentially Gamma started pushing Noraa due to this: 398, 399, 400 which I just think would be a weird thing to do to a partner

which means if there are 2 scum remaining I believe it is either noraa + haschel or gamma + haschel.
I will however say that the lack of a kill last night bothers me. It's too WIFOMy for me to really try to play around it, but i just dont get the point of it. I have a couple of theories like perhaps there was a traitor that got recruited which could also make a lot of the associative reads more useless and so on, or perhpas that the mask can save people or whatnot. Ultimately it's not something I think is really worth discussing, but it does make me slightly paranoid.

anyway the common denominator between the possible teams i see is haschel.

now he also seems to be counterclaiming me so obviously that also makes it more straightforward as we should lim between me and him

If Haschel is legitimately counterclaiming duppin here I’m definitely inclined to vote Haschel here. duppin’s role has limited usage but definitely can help town, voyeur meanwhile doesn’t seem like a town role in this setup, and I also kinda dislike Haschel’s usage of it

Heres my current opinion on the game:
One of Haschel and Duppin is scum and if I had to choose which one I thought was more scummy, I would say its Haschel.

The problem is that Im 99% sure gamma is scum and gamma is more likely scum with Duppin than Haschel since duppin "cleared" gamma

Duppin also kinda sussed me D3, I think the optics there a bit weird for potential partners?

"kinda sussing" is perfect for shallow distancing :/

In post 1340, Noraa wrote:"kinda sussing" is perfect for shallow distancing :/

as i just pointed out he joined recks wagon on my slot d2 and tried to lim me.

of course bussing is a possibility but we can wifom all day long if we want to, but unless you have an independent scumread on us i dont think its very logical to push a duppin/gamma/reck team
actually to be completely honest im not even sure why you think my claim makes us more likely to be partners either but i dont really think its worth discussing

Well I'm pretty damn certain that gamma is scum rn bc duppin/haschel is basically impossible unless duppin is actually mafia goon and just making up some shit on the fly which I don't buy. Or if Reck is galaxy brain and one of the partners is Ythan. If that's the case, town is 100% losing and we can't do anything about it.

I think the most likely explanation is just that the solve is gamma + duppin/haschel. I don't think gamma/haschel is very possible tho cuz I just don't see it. They've distanced so well if they're scum and I'm struggling to see that solve.

I want to vote gamma rn but what I'm worried about is if gamma is town, then my one vote + two speedy scums vote will make town lose so I've decided that's a bad idea until I interact a bit more with both gamma and duppin.

we are limming between me and haschel, you should be evaluating us.

I am curious as to why you think Gamma and haschel is impossible? Why are you of the opinion that they have "distanced so well"? I am just curious as to why you believe there is a bigger split between the two of them than let's say my slot and Gamma?

In post 1307, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Ythan, can you confirm that you did not send a mask to Noraa?

Yep.

In post 1323, VP Baltar wrote:Ythan, who did you give a mask to last night?

Gamma.

In post 1342, Noraa wrote:Or if Reck is galaxy brain and one of the partners is Ythan.

In post 1343, duppin wrote:we are limming between me and haschel, you should be evaluating us.

I am curious as to why you think Gamma and haschel is impossible? Why are you of the opinion that they have "distanced so well"? I am just curious as to why you believe there is a bigger split between the two of them than let's say my slot and Gamma?

Theres definitely been a bigger split. I'll explain it later today if I remember but rn imma go out for a run with a few friends. Adios.

by the way one thing id like to mention is that haschel is directly counterclaiming my night action. The only reason i mention this is because for that to make sense it would mean that i either lied about my target or i dont have a night action and just randomly guessed that gamma did nothing and that no one visited him two nights in a row.

if i was scum i dont see how it would make sense for me to lie about who i visited especially when i picked the most obvious target and if i were scum then haschel would be town and i know his role so just doesnt really make any sense for me to lie about my target when no one died

No kill just doesn't make sense to me in general :/