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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:35 pm
by osuka
yeah i agree. with the cop and gunsmith on the board id say scum can be in the pr claims too

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:35 pm
by osuka
PAGETOP FOR DADDY

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:35 pm
by Creature
Tracker, Gunsmith and Even-Night Cop should definitely contain one scum though.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:35 pm
by osuka
ydrasse where are you

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:36 pm
by osuka
where are you ydrasse

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:36 pm
by osuka
we wanna know who you protected

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:36 pm
by Creature
Mafia Odd-Night Gunsmith would make the most sense setupwise

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:37 pm
by Creature
Yeah, the gunsmith role is definitely misplaced here (cop gets guilty on miller and gunsmith gets guilty on cop)

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:00 pm
by Tayl0r Swift
i do not have a result from night 1.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:01 pm
by Tayl0r Swift
ok bob, time for you to full claim.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:01 pm
by Flavor Leaf
FL: Vig
Johnny: Informed Miller
Taylor: Tracker
BM: VT
Pooky: VT
Gamma: VT
Bob: Gunsmith
Mini: Cop
Osuka: VT
Creature: VT
Ydrasse: Protective

Golden: Roleblocker
Shelly: VT

Yeah, one VT is scum with a PR, and it’s either Bob or Mini.

Keep in mind, Bob didn’t confirm he was a gunsmith, and scumHim I don’t think ever makes that.

@Johnny - Would you like to do the honors of saying what your informed information is?

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:02 pm
by Flavor Leaf
In post 1333, Tayl0r Swift wrote:i do not have a result from night 1.
But did you use an action?

This matters a bit, because if you got a “did not see anything” then that person is confirmed to not have made the scum kill.

The little stuff.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:04 pm
by Flavor Leaf
Mini’s claim is actually a really strong scum fake claim if they are scum because Golden flipped Even-Night, a Miller was claimed, and a Cop shows up as “Has a Gun” to a gunsmith, so it could bypass getting guiltied, similar to when I claimed Miller prior to you Copping me that one time Creature, and I got my way out of that situation ahead of time

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:07 pm
by Flavor Leaf
FL: Vig
Johnny: Informed Miller
Taylor: Tracker
BM: VT
Pooky: VT
Gamma: VT
Bob: Gunsmith
Mini: Cop
Osuka: VT
Creature: VT
Ydrasse: Protective

Golden: Roleblocker
Shelly: VT

Vig
Miller
Tracker
Protective
Cop or Gunsmith
5x VT

Even Night Roleblocker
Doctor
Goon

Honestly, I think Gunsmith is town, Cop is scum here, but I’ll take some more time before committing to anything really.

Vig/Miller are guilty to Gunsmith/Cop, and I think the Miller can very well make sense as a Red Herring in this setup, especially because a way to figure that out is a Vigilante shooting a Miller, if they claimed Day 1, which is generally common Miller practice.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:10 pm
by Flavor Leaf
Actually, Bob is town Gunsmith likely because of the open knowledge of there being a Doctor on the scum team, which means it’s open knowledge for a Doctor to be treated like a Godfather with Gunsmith, meaning the Cop claim is probably fake.

And with no other options for block kill, Ydrasse is likely scum.

Mini claiming Cop also dissuades a Vig not to shoot them.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:11 pm
by Flavor Leaf
This actually kinda sucks because them claiming Even Night Cop is a really solid claim and it completely dissuades from hurting them in any shape of the way, but with only Osuka left to claim, it’s actually a really strong scum fake claim in the situation.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:15 pm
by Flavor Leaf
Damn, I think it’s Mini and Creature.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:17 pm
by Flavor Leaf
Osuka could be in the Creature slot, but I think Arachnid saw the no kill and the partner death, then lurked out of the game and got replaced from inactivity.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:18 pm
by Flavor Leaf
@Taylor - If you’re even night, you probably are a counterclaim to the even night cop.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:18 pm
by Creature
In post 1337, Flavor Leaf wrote:Mini’s claim is actually a really strong scum fake claim if they are scum because Golden flipped Even-Night, a Miller was claimed, and a Cop shows up as “Has a Gun” to a gunsmith, so it could bypass getting guiltied, similar to when I claimed Miller prior to you Copping me that one time Creature, and I got my way out of that situation ahead of time
It's not as much as a strong claim as Mini can't claim they got roleblocked anymore and so they are forced to clear someone and if they live too long they will eat a lynch later on anyway.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:19 pm
by Creature
In post 1338, Flavor Leaf wrote:especially because a way to figure that out is a Vigilante shooting a Miller, if they claimed Day 1, which is generally common Miller practice.
Who tf thinks every miller claim should be shot?

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:20 pm
by Flavor Leaf
UNVOTE: Bob

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:22 pm
by Flavor Leaf
In post 1344, Creature wrote:
In post 1337, Flavor Leaf wrote:Mini’s claim is actually a really strong scum fake claim if they are scum because Golden flipped Even-Night, a Miller was claimed, and a Cop shows up as “Has a Gun” to a gunsmith, so it could bypass getting guiltied, similar to when I claimed Miller prior to you Copping me that one time Creature, and I got my way out of that situation ahead of time
It's not as much as a strong claim as Mini can't claim they got roleblocked anymore and so they are forced to clear someone and if they live too long they will eat a lynch later on anyway.
This is easy to do.

I feel like you came up with the claim for Mini as is, and I think it’s a good claim, I just think it happens to be unfortunate they’re scum here.

You’re right, cut that Miller shooting talk out.

I half expect Johnny to be informed of no cops in this game, so I’m willing to wait for Johnny to really make any further push, cuz i don’t want to vote a cop if i think it’s likely, but idk if it’s even likely herez

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:22 pm
by Flavor Leaf
I could be overlooking Pooky

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:23 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
Did everyone claim?