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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:35 am
by Ahsoka
You went from town read, to null, to null with Menalque/Me having 1 scum, to slight scum, to waiting until after I pushed you as possible scum to vote me.

What part of this doesn't make sense?

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:37 am
by Ahsoka
Like how do you see how I can't see it as setting me up.

I've also said this to you multiple times, so you know I was thinking it earlier as well, and you continued to make comments that brought lower when I was essentially taking a temporary day or so break from most of my mafia games.

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:37 am
by Ahsoka
I even told you I was burnt out of Mafia a few days ago.

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:39 am
by clidd
It still doesn't make sense for you to think it's "clidd is setting me up".

I would have articulated it in public if I really wanted you eliminated. My explanation was in good faith, but you are overreacting rn.

And it's bold for scum!clidd to set you up, you're annoying to 1v1. So yeah, it's more likely scum!you reasoning imo.

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:39 am
by Ahsoka
What doesn't make sense?

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:40 am
by Ahsoka
In post 1328, clidd wrote:And it's bold for scum!clidd to set you up, you're annoying to 1v1.
This is why you have to set me up.

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:40 am
by Ahsoka
It's fine. I have a way to IC myself this game, so if I don't become conf town, the game can fade me Day 4.

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:41 am
by clidd
Ok, and how my "set you up" will work here?

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:41 am
by Ahsoka
In post 1331, Ahsoka wrote:It's fine. I have a way to IC myself this game, so if I don't become conf town, the game can fade me Day 4.
Nevermind, this is a 12 player game. I keep thinking it's a large.

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:41 am
by Ahsoka
In post 1332, clidd wrote:Ok, and how my "set you up" will work here?
This is why I think you're scum. I've already explained this.

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:43 am
by clidd
Your reasoning for scum!clidd is meh.

I'm voting you rn because I think you're scum, period.

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:43 am
by Ahsoka
In post 1311, Ahsoka wrote:Look at the gamestate right now.

Menalque, Morning Tweet, Kanna, Clidd, Pooky have all given their thoughts and would accept me as a fade today.

ABR will also generally always join too

That's 6 slots. I have far more gamestate control when I am scum.
This is how I am setup, Clidd. This in combination with all the posts you've been setting your trajectory on me up. Like you can clearly see your trail of your read lowering. This is what I mean by setup. I feel like you just don't understand trajectory.

If you can't understand that, I don't know how to break it down any further.

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:44 am
by Ahsoka
In post 1335, clidd wrote:Your reasoning for scum!clidd is meh.

I'm voting you rn because I think you're scum, period.
Then I'm done with this conversation.

I target a player at night, and if I hit a specific player, I become Lovers with them, and I gain the Innocent Child ability.

Uncrowned is not my lover.

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:47 am
by Ahsoka
You also specifically paired me up with Menalque in a way that doesn't really have anything backing it up.

Menalque can just be town, but he's gotten hard screwed over by me before, so I can see Menalque as town pushing there.

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:51 am
by clidd
My read progression on you remains perfectly aligned with my perception of the game and was presented in good faith, so the "setting you up" doesn't really exist.

And I don't understand your role.

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:51 am
by Ahsoka
In post 1339, clidd wrote:My read progression on you remains perfectly aligned with my perception of the game and was presented in good faith, so the "setting you up" doesn't really exist.

And I don't understand your role.
if you're town, it wasn't happening. That doesn't mean that it doesn't look like it, and you refusing to accept that it can't look like that is why I think you are scum.

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:53 am
by clidd
The "paired" thing was a speculation, nothing extraordinary.

pedit: I don't think you scumread my reasons to scumread you as town here.

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:54 am
by Ahsoka
Even if you end up being town, I stand by it looks like you were setting me up, it doesn't magically change. Your trajectory doesn't make sense to me, your accusation of me being low info is plain incorrect, and you putting Menalque/Me in a 1v1 looks like scum carefully positioning.

I don't care if you end up being town here, post game, this is 100% a solid reason for me to believe you are scum, and you have also continuously acted like I had no reason to scum read you, when I have multiple reasons, all that I've stated, but you're grouping it in like I have 1 single reason.

I had also stated this towards you before, and you chose to wait to push me until after I decided to push you.

Why should I town read you?

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:55 am
by Ahsoka
Give me 3 reasons why I should town read you that aren't self biased or meta based.

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:58 am
by Ahsoka
In post 1342, Ahsoka wrote:Your trajectory doesn't make sense to me, your accusation of me being low info is plain incorrect, and you putting Menalque/Me in a 1v1 looks like scum carefully positioning.
like you're just discrediting this entire line of reasoning without explaining why.

If you're town, you're pulling a newbie "idc, you should know I'm not scum here" when that's not how mafia works.

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:59 am
by clidd
I'm still meh to me, you can fake that as scum too.

The reasons you're pushing aren't really strong to infer scum!clidd when you saw how town!clidd thinks in names on the list.

I need to take a second look on the things you're typing, however.

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:00 am
by clidd
It's*

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:02 am
by Ahsoka
In post 1345, clidd wrote:I'm still meh to me, you can fake that as scum too.
then there's nothing that I can do, and you're just going to tunnel me. You want me to be scum here.

I can fake anything as scum. It doesn't make me scum.

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:02 am
by Ahsoka
In post 1345, clidd wrote:The reasons you're pushing aren't really strong to infer scum!clidd when you saw how town!clidd thinks in names on the list.
I was scum there, I didn't have to read you.

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:04 am
by Ahsoka
In post 1344, Ahsoka wrote: If you're town, you're pulling a newbie "idc, you should know I'm not scum here" when that's not how mafia works.
In post 1345, clidd wrote:The reasons you're pushing aren't really strong to infer scum!clidd when you saw how town!clidd thinks in names on the list.