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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:31 am
by UNOwen
Thanks.

Sometimes town players can talk themselves into tunnels but having read back I agree with Norwegian that you're coming from a place of deciding to tunnel him, there hasn't been any interest in attempting to see him as anything other than scum. The read escalates from "most suspicious reaction to my vote" (which didn't sound like a very strong suspicion) to "kill Norwegian" because he dismissed your initial push without comment. But I think this is consistent with him thinking your aggression was NAI so not very compellingly scummy. Most of the other points you mentioned came after you were already pushing for his execution so don't stand up as an explanation for your certainty.

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:43 am
by flow trap
In post 1322, Anya wrote:i'll sheep you flow but i think they're out for my blood
Don't sheep me

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:47 am
by Anya
it was after norwegian started opportunistically pushing me because dkkoba was yesterday that i really thought he was wolf Owen

at that point i had pushed him for quite a while and he had shown no reaction to this push

but when dkkoba came along with reasons of their own he decided to agree with those reasons because he saw an opportunity to push on someone who's been wolfreading him all game

the art kill further points to it being him

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:06 pm
by Elsa Jay
Or it could've been someone who realized the alt slip and usually targets that player? We don't know Arte's usual meta after all. Maybe someone just needed em gone.

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:08 pm
by flow trap
It could also be an obscure PR read albeit less likely

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:20 pm
by Anya
this is exhausting UNVOTE: Norwegian

i will happily sit here as a sacrificial lamb if a good show comes out of it

i am ready to die

and you know what Norwegian? i'll be rooting for you if you're wolf to go all the way, you seem cool

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:39 pm
by Rathe
how many players know artemiana i do not

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:41 pm
by Rathe
if a lot of players know artemiana then trying to figure out who killed her is hard

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:44 pm
by Rathe
i still think norwegian is trying to be nice to dkkoba

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:45 pm
by Rathe
so u still think mozamis is town

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:45 pm
by Rathe
were u serious

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:46 pm
by Rathe
that was too anya

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:49 pm
by Elsa Jay
Oh yeah who was arte an alt of? I tried to look it through the users who posted here but I think Brass deleted the alt slip. That or I'm blind.

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:53 pm
by mozamis
Town
Flow
Zoomer
Dkk
Elsa
Norwegian

Kitty or Not Mafia

Rathe scum
Owen scum

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:54 pm
by mozamis
VOTE: UNOWEN

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:00 pm
by mozamis
for the record, we should have pl NM. now we have no way of knowing nm alignment and its day2.
my fault as much as evryone else, but in every game i am in with nm, nm has to go day 1.
sorry nm but you are bad for town.

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:05 pm
by mozamis
In post 1267, Elsa Jay wrote:Owen so far doesn't seem to have an agenda
owen hasnt had an agenda all game. hence scum. could they blend anymore lol

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:08 pm
by mozamis
@: MOD AND EVERYONE
: is it ALWAYS ok to use "they" as a pronoun? I have been getting into trouble for using wrong pronouns, but surely "THEY" is always ok? Otherwise you have to keep using people's names which doesn't scan very well.

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:12 pm
by mozamis
In post 1274, KittyTacky wrote:It's past midnight here, will post more tomorrow.
please do, haven't heard much from you all game.

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:14 pm
by mozamis
In post 1278, UNOwen wrote:
In post 1274, KittyTacky wrote: Guess there might be one more outside this IG. But I sus Elsa, Norwe, Moz currently. It's past midnight here, will post more tomorrow.
Why the Moz/Norwegian suspicion?
and why don't you ever give any reads?
I ask people to look at the beginning of Today. Pretty sure everone else has given out some sort of opinion.
Owen has not.
Owen is scum.
It really is that simple today.

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:16 pm
by KittyTacky
Wasting a lim on N_M is anti-town since we have bigger fish to fry right now. You seem to be so eager to do it when there are scummier people being voted. Kinda sus NGL.

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:18 pm
by KittyTacky
In post 1344, mozamis wrote:
In post 1278, UNOwen wrote:
In post 1274, KittyTacky wrote: Guess there might be one more outside this IG. But I sus Elsa, Norwe, Moz currently. It's past midnight here, will post more tomorrow.
Why the Moz/Norwegian suspicion?
and why don't you ever give any reads?
Didn't I before? Most of my reads are based on tone.

I really, REALLY don't see how Owen is scum here. Not only based on tone but his posts always have a pretty decent amount of helpful content.

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:19 pm
by mozamis
In post 1345, KittyTacky wrote:Wasting a lim on N_M is anti-town since we have bigger fish to fry right now. You seem to be so eager to do it when there are scummier people being voted. Kinda sus NGL.
NO, you read my post wrong. WE SHOULD HAVE elim NM, past tense.
That was my WHOLE point. It is too late now, town are lumbered with NM for the rest of the game.
What are your reads Kitty?

Rathe looks less scummy today.
BUt Owen is scum.
Scum for me still in Owen, Rathe, Kitty, NM.

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:23 pm
by esotericzoomer
In post 1338, mozamis wrote:Town
Flow
Zoomer
Dkk
Elsa
Norwegian

Kitty or Not Mafia

Rathe scum
Owen scum
anya?

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:27 pm
by KittyTacky
In post 1347, mozamis wrote:
In post 1345, KittyTacky wrote:Wasting a lim on N_M is anti-town since we have bigger fish to fry right now. You seem to be so eager to do it when there are scummier people being voted. Kinda sus NGL.
NO, you read my post wrong. WE SHOULD HAVE elim NM, past tense.
That was my WHOLE point. It is too late now, town are lumbered with NM for the rest of the game.
What are your reads Kitty?
Right.

SOLIDLY TOWN
Me (duh)
UNOwen - for reasons explained above
DkKoba - just kinda a tonal read?

KINDA TOWN
flow - seems to play in a similar way as Newbie 2055 which recently finished and they were town in that game
Rathe - another tonal read, aggressive which is usually a town thing right?

NEUTRAL
eso - just don't know, he is hard to read.
NM - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjuHgYCxoKY

PROBABLY SCUM
Elsa - seems... very odd to me. Hard to explain
Norwe - the late Arte already explained my reasons
moz - just generally slippery

I'm more inclined to VOTE: Norwe of those three.